Conference realignment stuff

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cincycpaw said:
I vote for sooner rather than later.

This conference realignment stuff is funny. You go from hoping for no realignment, to hoping for more.
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Lol. When you are in UC, USF, or UConn's position, you take anything you can get related to the ACC or Big 12 at this point. But we need the dominoes to start falling.

Now the Michigan AD is hinting at the B1G expansion:

http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/76573/more-expansion-looms-over-ad-decisions

“Based on the last three years I’ve been in this business, you’d be crazy not to think about it," Michigan athletic director Dave Brandon said. "But it’s hard to model anything because you don’t know what to model. The minute you get yourself convinced that you’re going to go from 14 to 16, for all you know you’re going to 18, and a lot of people think the ultimate landing place is 20. Who knows?"

Iowa AD:

ou make your decision based on today," Iowa's Gary Barta said. "And today, we have that many teams. We can’t worry about something that’s not established yet. I don’t know if and when there will be more teams. Right now, we’re going to make decisions based on the additions of Rutgers and Maryland, and we’re going to make them with the information we have, consistent with our principles."

Northwestern AD:
"It’s hard to predict the future," added Northwestern's Jim Phillips. "No one would have predicted we’d be at this place we’re at right now. I don’t think you can get polarized by the what-ifs or the potential of what might be and lose sight of where you’re at."
 
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While you may have the desire to expand your conference to increase the value of your TV contract, there are only certain schools that will do that for you, therefore, your options are limited.

The Big 10 may want to add, to just throw out names, Virginia and Georgia Tech, but if Virginia and GT want to be in the ACC there is nothing the Big 10 can do to force them to leave the ACC.

If you are in the ACC you are guaranteed football games with Notre Dame at least once every 3 years, and basketball games yearly. If you leave the ACC you are also losing games with North Carolina and Duke.

If ACC schools are not willing to move, reallignment at the Power 5 conference level is for all practical purposes over. It does not seem to me that any ACC schools will be leaving anytime soon.
 
ralph1950 said:
While you may have the desire to expand your conference to increase the value of your TV contract, there are only certain schools that will do that for you, therefore, your options are limited.

The Big 10 may want to add, to just throw out names, Virginia and Georgia Tech, but if Virginia and GT want to be in the ACC there is nothing the Big 10 can do to force them to leave the ACC.

If you are in the ACC you are guaranteed football games with Notre Dame at least once every 3 years, and basketball games yearly. If you leave the ACC you are also losing games with North Carolina and Duke.

If ACC schools are not willing to move, reallignment at the Power 5 conference level is for all practical purposes over. It does not seem to me that any ACC schools will be leaving anytime soon.
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I can agree with a lot of what you say. But if you are talking TV contracts and money, those ACC teams mentioned in your post above will make bounds more in the B1G than the ACC
 
ralph1950 said:
While you may have the desire to expand your conference to increase the value of your TV contract, there are only certain schools that will do that for you, therefore, your options are limited.

The Big 10 may want to add, to just throw out names, Virginia and Georgia Tech, but if Virginia and GT want to be in the ACC there is nothing the Big 10 can do to force them to leave the ACC.

If you are in the ACC you are guaranteed football games with Notre Dame at least once every 3 years, and basketball games yearly. If you leave the ACC you are also losing games with North Carolina and Duke.

If ACC schools are not willing to move, reallignment at the Power 5 conference level is for all practical purposes over. It does not seem to me that any ACC schools will be leaving anytime soon.
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Where's your valuable "sources?" Are we back tracking already Ralphie?

This expansion is all football driven. While playing against UNC and Duke in basketball is fun, it doesn't even compare to playing against Ohio State, Michigan, etc. in football. You're grasping for straws here.

You are correct that if the ACC schools aren't willing to move then realignment is essentially done for awhile outside of maybe the Big 12 addding 2 schools. However, if all of the ACC schools really didn't want to move then they would just sign the GOR and be done with it. There are several schools sniffing around.
 
ralph1950 said:
While you may have the desire to expand your conference to increase the value of your TV contract, there are only certain schools that will do that for you, therefore, your options are limited.

The Big 10 may want to add, to just throw out names, Virginia and Georgia Tech, but if Virginia and GT want to be in the ACC there is nothing the Big 10 can do to force them to leave the ACC.

If you are in the ACC you are guaranteed football games with Notre Dame at least once every 3 years, and basketball games yearly. If you leave the ACC you are also losing games with North Carolina and Duke.

If ACC schools are not willing to move, reallignment at the Power 5 conference level is for all practical purposes over. It does not seem to me that any ACC schools will be leaving anytime soon.
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Losing a football game once every 3 years against Notre Dame versus playing Michigan, Ohio State, Wisconsin every year or every couple of years? Adv Big 10.

Losing bball games against Duke and UNC gaining O$U, Mich, Mich State... adv ACC.

But the only thing that matters...sharing TV $...Big advantage Big 10. If they come calling, most teams answer the door and then answer "HE double hockey sticks YES!"
 
cincycpaw said:
Losing a football game once every 3 years against Notre Dame versus playing Michigan, Ohio State, Wisconsin every year or every couple of years? Adv Big 10.

Losing bball games against Duke and UNC gaining O$U, Mich, Mich State... adv ACC.

But the only thing that matters...sharing TV $...Big advantage Big 10. If they come calling, most teams answer the door and then answer "HE double hockey sticks YES!"
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The Big 10 was told no by UNC, Duke, Virginia, and GT. Maryland was about the Big 10's 5th or 6th option in the ACC. Rutgers got in the Big 10 because all the other ACC schools they wanted told them no.
 
kbohls ‏@kbohls

On B12 expansion, UT AD DeLoss Dodds: "I like 10 ... you've got to be realistic. If you want to be part of change ... got to change w/ it."

Greg Swaim Show ‏@GSwaim
#B1G source: "Not if, but when Delaney offers #UVa, and they will definitely take it."

Greg Swaim Show ‏@GSwaim

#UVa to #B1G the catalyst that starts the demise of the #ACC. Waiting for shoe to drop.


I still think the 2nd best news of this year thus far (after Jermaine Lawrence) is coming...When? Not sure. But Stars are starting to align for UC to get out of the Big East
 
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kbohls ‏@kbohls

On B12 expansion, UT AD DeLoss Dodds: "I like 10 ... you've got to be realistic. If you want to be part of change ... got to change w/ it."

Greg Swaim Show ‏@GSwaim
#B1G source: "Not if, but when Delaney offers #UVa, and they will definitely take it."

Greg Swaim Show ‏@GSwaim

#UVa to #B1G the catalyst that starts the demise of the #ACC. Waiting for shoe to drop.


I still think the 2nd best news of this year thus far (after Jermaine Lawrence) is coming...When? Not sure. But Stars are starting to align for UC to get out of the Big East
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Realignment at the Power 5 level is basically finished until 2025 at the earliest as the playoff/contract bowl money is set.
 
UNC is the key to ACC stability. UVA is a little overrated in this regard. If UNC leaves the ACC, the future of that conference will be in doubt. Now, even if that happens, it is still a better option than the Big East in its current form.
 
JasonS said:
UNC is the key to ACC stability. UVA is a little overrated in this regard. If UNC leaves the ACC, the future of that conference will be in doubt. Now, even if that happens, it is still a better option than the Big East in its current form.
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The future of the ACC is not in doubt. The playoff/contract bowl deal is set through the year 2025. The ACC now owns the Orange Bowl and will be receiving a minimum of $75 million a year from the playoff/contract bowl system from 2014 through 2025.
 
ralph1950 said:
The future of the ACC is not in doubt. The playoff/contract bowl deal is set through the year 2025. The ACC now owns the Orange Bowl and will be receiving a minimum of $75 million a year from the playoff/contract bowl system from 2014 through 2025.
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It will be if UNC leaves. Ralph you are clueless about how any of this conference realignment stuff works.
 
JasonS said:
It will be if UNC leaves. Ralph you are clueless about how any of this conference realignment stuff works.
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I would agree with UNC being a lynch pin. What the ACC has on it's side is ESPN. They helped orchestrate the Big East exodus to the benefit of the ACC.
 
ralph1950 said:
The future of the ACC is not in doubt. The playoff/contract bowl deal is set through the year 2025. The ACC now owns the Orange Bowl and will be receiving a minimum of $75 million a year from the playoff/contract bowl system from 2014 through 2025.
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Horrifically incorrect on all counts
 
JasonS said:
I never said they were but they are a top target for the Big Ten and SEC should either decide to expand.
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Being a top target of another conference does not mean you are going to leave your current conference. UNC already turned down the Big 10, you really think Maryland was the top target in the ACC for the Big 10? Maryland was about the 6th option, UNC, Duke, Virginia, GT, all turned the Big 10 down, the Big 10 was left with Maryland as their only option.
 

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