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This is getting crazy. anbuc and amberly are making me miss Ralph talk to himself. I ask in the most sincere voice I can muster up that you please take this racist discussion elsewhere. I would like to see actual basketball and football discussions.

Thanks.
 
Lol! Good point. That thread had some good back and forth discussion and nothing was getting out of hand...or personal, but If Mick's performance gets questioned a little, shut 'er down!

Yeah, especially hypocritical considering your boy Bearcat Jeff posted his own thread in Team Thoughts where he had a short lived moment of clarity and actually called Mick on his BS.
 
What's sad is that a racist is tolerated on here. If a pedophile or wife abuser was posting on here, would we just look the other way, and say its OK. The issue of race has been brought up repeatedly by only one poster (or 2 if you consider his wife). No one else cares, or should care. Look at his responses to my posts on this thread. Or his defense of Andy Kennedy. You really think he is not a racist. One thing for sure, he doesn't like Cronin. All of his posts reflect this. Do you honestly think it has nothing to do with the fact that he had been married to a black woman. That race has nothing to do with it. I will be happy to leave this board, and will never return, as long as a piece of shit like this is banned forever.

I don't know if he is a racist or not. I haven't been on here very long. I wasn't commenting on him. I was just agreeing with the previous poster who commented about the other thread being closed...really for no reason.

There are a lot of people who don't like Cronin and they shouldn't be attacked for that stance. We all love the Bearcats. Anyone who doesn't love the Bearcats should be attacked. We all want what's best for our program. If you believe Mick is the answer, great. If I believe someone else would be better, great. Let's debate in a friendly way and move on. Mick is our coach and I'll root hard for him to pull the right strings and bring us a victory. After the game, I'll critique him. I can do that as a fan. But, the issue here is the cosistency of thread closings...which is a little inconsistent.
 
This is getting crazy. anbuc and amberly are making me miss Ralph talk to himself. I ask in the most sincere voice I can muster up that you please take this racist discussion elsewhere. I would like to see actual basketball and football discussions.

Thanks.

Recruits and parents of recruits are on this site. Jamaree Strickland has been on this site. You think it makes them feel better when some joker calls the head coach a racist. Or says that we need to recruit white payers because we need players who can think on the court. Just yesterday, BearcatJeff deleted a post by AmberlyColonel who said that we don't have midnight madness anymore because Donald Little and Roy Bright were robbing people at gunpoint (Oh, he did put lol at the end, so I guess its OK). This is appropriate? This site was started by people who love the program. Does AmberlyColonel fit the bill. If it's UC he loves, it the University of Caucasions, not the University of Cincinnati. The moderators must feel its fine for him to call Cronin a racist, otherwise they would have stopped this long ago. At least a number of us have called him out, and will continue to do so.
 
Several people should be banned. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like this site is monitored at all anymore.
 
People post to get a response to there thoughts. Some are serious in there comments some just want attention. I don't believe in censuring anyone but I won't respond and create a forum for people seeking attention or stirring the pot. I suggest ignoring the person.l
 
Shocking that you would agree with what westsidecat posted. Did you even see the actual press conference? Of course not. His responses were not volunteered, and were answers to specific questions. You were probably too busy following recruiting sites. You know, like the brilliant thread you started about Andy Kennedy's top ranked class coming in this year. The one that will assure him success for the coming years, and how you wish him the best. The same Andy Kennedy that hurled racial epithets against that boy driving that cab. No way he is a racist. Wish he were still at UC, cause you know, everyone makes a mistake. At least he has that white man Henderson on the team. No dirty little secret in that program.

As far as 'whiny bitch' comments by that mediocre coach Mick Cronin, he and his sophmores, horrible bigs who aren't worth a damn, and his terrible offense are on their way to a third straight NCAA tourney. That coach you called great, Bob Huggins, was complaining earlier this month about all the traveling his team has to do, and that the B12 has to look at how they schedule games next year. He said it was unfair to his players as they play 9PM CST games, lose an hour coming back, and the players get back to Morgantown at 6AM EST. Not bitching, just stating the facts and giving an honest answer to a question, as great coaches do. Of course he doesn't have the poorly coached players UC has, and coached them up to a 13-19 record this year. Hope we don't run in to that team in the big dance.

Oh, I'm sure you do look forward to big things next year. It would be great if the team did well and Cronin fell on his arse. Not sure how that works, but good luck with that. BTW, UC will be in the NCAA tourney on a yearly basis, so you may have to wait a bit for Cronin to fall on his arse.

are you really pumping your chest out for making 3 ncaa trips in a row? love the mid major mindset of some fans.

let's not pay attention to the epic collapse after being number 8 in the country. our bigs would be 7 or 8 off the bench at most schools, sophomores are playing like shit, and we can't score the ball, but who cares, uc made 3 ncaa tournaments in a row! let's throw a parade!
 
Recruits and parents of recruits are on this site. Jamaree Strickland has been on this site. You think it makes them feel better when some joker calls the head coach a racist. Or says that we need to recruit white payers because we need players who can think on the court. Just yesterday, BearcatJeff deleted a post by AmberlyColonel who said that we don't have midnight madness anymore because Donald Little and Roy Bright were robbing people at gunpoint (Oh, he did put lol at the end, so I guess its OK). This is appropriate? This site was started by people who love the program. Does AmberlyColonel fit the bill. If it's UC he loves, it the University of Caucasions, not the University of Cincinnati. The moderators must feel its fine for him to call Cronin a racist, otherwise they would have stopped this long ago. At least a number of us have called him out, and will continue to do so.

I am not a racist you little asshole. I ignored your first couple of attacks to keep some harmony here, but you do not know when to quit so I will help you. If you cannot handle simple truths without resorting to slanderous comments, then you need to find another hobby other than sitting in front of a computer labelling others because they disagree with you. Someone should be questioning the recruiting practices of Cronin. And I will, just as you will hound anyone who disagrees with how Cronin ties his shoes, coaches, talks, etc. Cronin needs his defenders and you fit that bill perfectly. But do not call me something you know little about apparently. Not one person has been able to state why Cronin cannot/won't bring white players to UC on scholarship. NOT ONE! Til I see an explaination (and don't give me phantom names who get offers but go elsewhere still), I will be on boards asking the hard question that everyone is afraid to ask. If he was doing this to black players, I would be just as loud. And I have a feeling you would too. There is a thing called diversity and Cronin SUCKS at it. Show me different and I will drop this like Anbuc's 20 year old toothbrush. And as for Bright and Little, that is a city wide joke and that is what happens when you bring thugs to UC. I will give Cronin some credit. He has brought in some good character, something Huggin's struggled with. But that does not excuse shying away from a demographic because he has a bias towards another.
 
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are you really pumping your chest out for making 3 ncaa trips in a row? love the mid major mindset of some fans.

let's not pay attention to the epic collapse after being number 8 in the country. our bigs would be 7 or 8 off the bench at most schools, sophomores are playing like shit, and we can't score the ball, but who cares, uc made 3 ncaa tournaments in a row! let's throw a parade!

He will do anything to pump up Cronin. That is one thing he is consistent with.
 
I am not a racist you little asshole. I ignored your first couple of attacks to keep some harmony here, but you do not know when to quit so I will help you. If you cannot handle simple truths without resorting to slanderous comments, then you need to find another hobby other than sitting in front of a computer labelling others because they disagree with you. Someone should be questioning the recruiting practices of Cronin. And I will, just as you will hound anyone who disagrees with how Cronin ties his shoes, coaches, talks, etc. Cronin needs his defenders and you fit that bill perfectly. But do not call me something you know little about apparently. Not one person has been able to state why Cronin cannot/won't bring white players to UC on scholarship. NOT ONE! Til I see an explaination (and don't give me phantom names who get offers but go elsewhere still), I will be on boards asking the hard question that everyone is afraid to ask. If he was doing this to black players, I would be just as loud. And I have a feeling you would too. There is a thing called diversity and Cronin SUCKS at it. Show me different and I will drop this like Anbuc's 20 year old toothbrush. And as for Bright and Little, that is a city wide joke and that is what happens when you bring thugs to UC. I will give Cronin some credit. He has brought in some good character, something Huggin's struggled with. But that does not excuse shying away from a demographic because he has a bias towards another.

This post is laughable. First of all it does not matter one iota the color of the skin of any player that coaches recruit. They recruit skill, style, need, and character. Thats it. If you actually think there is a coach in America who goes out and says "Hmmm we are a little low on white kids on our roster. We should do something about that." Then you are dumber than previously thought. You recruit to your system regardless of race. Oh and by the way Cronin recruited Mitch Mcgary very hard (5 star WHITE kid) that ended up at Michigan. Also Jarren Sina (4 star Northwestern) and right now Grayson Allen in the 2014 class just to name a few. The recruits you have are the recruits you get. You simply lose a lot more in recruiting than win. Simply put there is a much bigger pool of elite players that are African American. Would like recruiting to suffer because you want more diversity of race? If you do I suggest you go follow a CYO team.
 
People, AmberlyColonel is worse than BearcatMick and Ralphy. At least those two don't make constant racist remarks. Lets do everyone a favor and just ignore them. Eventually they will go away.
 
People, AmberlyColonel is worse than BearcatMick and Ralphy. At least those two don't make constant racist remarks. Lets do everyone a favor and just ignore them. Eventually they will go away.

Why should AC be banned and ignored when Anbuc88 says things far worse? Making the assumption that Coach is a "massa" of an all african-american basketball team and that white players should sit in front of the bus is ignorant and degrading. Both are idiots for bringing race up but it is an issue that needs discussed from time to time. What was said about a larger pool is true but all programs address equality and the fact that UC fields an all african-american team consistently is unique and curious. I find it odd how no one offers explanations as to why this occurs here, but have no problems questioning another's motive. Just because a coach offer's something does not mean a problem does not exist when those players consistently decline. I back Coach but I do question his recruiting tactics the same as others. And others on here have brought up this issue but hide it under the phrase "basketball IQ". The fact that AC is not politically correct obviously is a weakness when debating his points. I am a fan of basketball and would support this team through Hell, but people should not be muffled because they have strong opinions.
 
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Why should AC be banned when Anbuc88 says things far worse? Making the assumption that Coach is a "massa" of an all african-american basketball team and that white players should sit in front of the bus is ignorant and degrading. Both are idiots for bringing race up but it is an issue that needs discussed from time to time. What was said about a larger pool is true but all programs address equality and the fact that UC fields an all african-american team consistently is unique and curious. I find it odd how no one offers explanations as to why this occurs here, but have no problems questioning another's motive. Just because a coach offer's something does not mean a problem does not exist when those players consistently decline. I back Coach but I do question his recruiting tactics.

Equality? What are you talking about? I once again state you have the players that you get. If he would have won the Mitch Mcgary sweepstakes would we even be having this conversation? I pose the same question to you. Would you like recruiting to suffer for the sake of "equality" or "diversity"? There is only one quality that should matter. Is this the best player\person that I can get to come to Cincinnati that fits the system. Race HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!!!
 
This post is laughable. First of all it does not matter one iota the color of the skin of any player that coaches recruit. They recruit skill, style, need, and character. Thats it. If you actually think there is a coach in America who goes out and says "Hmmm we are a little low on white kids on our roster. We should do something about that." Then you are dumber than previously thought. You recruit to your system regardless of race. Oh and by the way Cronin recruited Mitch Mcgary very hard (5 star WHITE kid) that ended up at Michigan. Also Jarren Sina (4 star Northwestern) and right now Grayson Allen in the 2014 class just to name a few. The recruits you have are the recruits you get. You simply lose a lot more in recruiting than win. Simply put there is a much bigger pool of elite players that are African American. Would like recruiting to suffer because you want more diversity of race? If you do I suggest you go follow a CYO team.
great post. That said responding to that idiot only fuels his BS.
 
Equality? What are you talking about? I once again state you have the players that you get. If he would have won the Mitch Mcgary sweepstakes would we even be having this conversation? I pose the same question to you. Would you like recruiting to suffer for the sake of "equality" or "diversity"? There is only one quality that should matter. Is this the best player\person that I can get to come to Cincinnati that fits the system. Race HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!!!

I would much rather have a diverse program built on equality than a team filled with bias. Other teams balance it very well and are quite successful. You seem to think it cannot be done. You and I will have to differ on that. I am certain there were better options than some of the players we now have on this squad.
 
Really? You are certain there were better white players that were available? That is an absolute empty statement. Please name one. You have no idea who is available and not available to a program. ITS NOT BIAS! You get the best kids you can. If they are all African American then so be it. I still dont understand your premise that diversity should outweigh skill. Once again Cronin has recruited white kids. He just didnt get them. This whole argument is mind boggling.
 
I am not a racist you little asshole. I ignored your first couple of attacks to keep some harmony here, but you do not know when to quit so I will help you. If you cannot handle simple truths without resorting to slanderous comments, then you need to find another hobby other than sitting in front of a computer labelling others because they disagree with you. Someone should be questioning the recruiting practices of Cronin. And I will, just as you will hound anyone who disagrees with how Cronin ties his shoes, coaches, talks, etc. Cronin needs his defenders and you fit that bill perfectly. But do not call me something you know little about apparently. Not one person has been able to state why Cronin cannot/won't bring white players to UC on scholarship. NOT ONE! Til I see an explaination (and don't give me phantom names who get offers but go elsewhere still), I will be on boards asking the hard question that everyone is afraid to ask. If he was doing this to black players, I would be just as loud. And I have a feeling you would too. There is a thing called diversity and Cronin SUCKS at it. Show me different and I will drop this like Anbuc's 20 year old toothbrush. And as for Bright and Little, that is a city wide joke and that is what happens when you bring thugs to UC. I will give Cronin some credit. He has brought in some good character, something Huggin's struggled with. But that does not excuse shying away from a demographic because he has a bias towards another.
Slanderous comments? You've got some nerve, you racist cockroach. You hide behind an anonymous screen name and accuse the head coach of basketball program at a prestigious university of institutional racism. And then you complain that you are being labeled a racist??? Wow.

You just don't get it, do you. None of us care if there are 12 green players on our team. As long as they are good basketball players, represent our university well, AND win, we could care less. If we had 7 straight years of white players or Chinese players, or, as LongHaul said, Eskimos, none of us would care.

Do you have any idea how recruiting works? Obviously not, given your brilliant thread about Andy Kennedy's top recruiting class. Hey McFly, there's a difference between basketball and football recruiting. Let me enlighten you. Multiple players of all races are recruited. Based on mutual interest, players are offered. As soon as one of them accepts, a coach moves on to the next recruit. Mitch McGary, a white player was heavily recruited by the staff. Do you honestly believe that a commitment from a Top 5 player like him would have been rejected because he did not fit the racial profile. Are you really that stupid? Kevin Pangos may have come down to Gonzaga and Michigan, as you claim, but he was recruited by UC and would have been given a scholarship if he accepted. Jaren Sina was offered by the staff, and chose Alabama. You don't think that they would have accepted his commitment. Are you really that big of a moron? That's just a few of the white players that were recruited by his staff. We don't know all the players that are recruited as the staff keeps things close to the vest. You don't want to accept these facts because it doesn't fit your agenda. And stop with the BS about being just as loud if this was done to black players. There are assistant coaches, student managers, trainers, and support staff that are predominantly white. I haven't seen you question why there aren't more black support staff or trainers? You think anyone gives a shit? No. And no one should.
 
I would much rather have a diverse program built on equality than a team filled with bias. Other teams balance it very well and are quite successful. You seem to think it cannot be done. You and I will have to differ on that. I am certain there were better options than some of the players we now have on this squad.
your certain??? Based on what??? Enlighten us. The program is diverse. Players from all over the country are on the team.
 
your certain??? Based on what??? Enlighten us. The program is diverse. Players from all over the country are on the team.

This team is not racially diverse. Are you blind? If Coach could not find a better player than what he has on the bench, then he is not doing his job. We missed out on a local kid, Elijah Pittman (african-american), with incredible skills who is now playing for Marshal. He did not even get a sniff from Coach. There was also a 7 footer from Turpin, Will Norwell (caucasian), who was a solid center and again got 0 consideration. Not even a visit. The players are out there. Coach just does not look without blinders on.
 
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You dont even know his name haha. He also went to Marshall. Not like we lost him to Ohio State. I ask one final time. Why does the team need to be racially diverse? What point does it serve? Also you still have not said one thing about him recruiting white players when I have demonstrated that he has but just didnt get them. Your argument is empty.
 
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