Yes getting to a sweet 16 every couple of years in a non p-5 conference is a tough job.
I thought this program was better than expecting one sweet 16 every 20 years. Maybe that’s my fault. If that’s the case I don’t know why any recruit would come here
If that’s too much to ask for a good coach, what are we even talking about? Should we ever expect a 2nd weekend run since we are not in a P5? We have seen team after team from non p5 conferences but it’s too hard cincinnati? Weird
If that’s too much to ask for a good coach, what are we even talking about? Should we ever expect a 2nd weekend run since we are not in a P5? We have seen team after team from non p5 conferences but it’s too hard cincinnati? Weird
Thanks Doug. I was just going to try and pull those numbers. Its not exactly a easy task in our current state. But that said we should have done it.Only 34 teams have made at least 2 Sweet 16's the past 8 years that UC has made the NCAA. Only 4 of those teams are currently NOT in P-5 + BE. (Gonzaga {4}, UConn, San Diego St. & Wichita State {all 2}. The SEC and P-12 have only had 3 different teams do it. Villanova and Virginia, for example, have only 1 more in that time. Now having said all of that, UC should have been 1 of 35 to do it.
Only 34 teams have made at least 2 Sweet 16's the past 8 years that UC has made the NCAA. Only 4 of those teams are currently NOT in P-5 + BE. (Gonzaga {4}, UConn, San Diego St. & Wichita State {all 2}. The SEC and P-12 have only had 3 different teams do it. Villanova and Virginia (2 each), for example, have only 1 more than UC during that time. Now having said all of that, UC should have been 1 of 35 to do it.
We should be in that group. Easily.
Do you have kids? Slippery slope here.We definitely are pretty close in viewpoints. I bring up Louisville specifically because of their unique situation/trajectory. The hookers, payouts, cheating etc. is obviously not good and I would never go on record saying I would welcome it here. But if everyone is doing it and we are hurting cause we don't look the other way and bend the rules than that's a problem. This investigation/scandal stuff will pretty quickly fade away and in 10 years the only thing people will remember is the national title and their current position in a power conference with a historic top 10 team. That is a trade off I would do 100 times out of 100 if I were being perfectly honest with myself.
Do you have kids? Slippery slope here.
I hope you rethink this.
Without reading all these threads, we are over a month removed from the game and I still can't even talk about it.
I have never had a single game or season change my view of a program/coach the way this one did. With other teams it was a more gradual "awakening" to the limits of a coach. But boy did this one hit all at once.
The team was so talented they dominated the conference despite being mismanaged the entire way. When we look back on this team down the road, we are going to cry because the talent on the team was almost taken for granted. This team was flat out stacked.
I will always view this season as the year a coach refused to let his best players play together and adjust his coaching style to their abilities. For me its an unforgivable mistake. One that was far too easy to see coming.
I hope he mismanages the team again this year but doesn't blow a huge lead in the sweet 16 game.
What?
LOL! I was responding to Cincrulz allegation that Mick Mismanged the team all year. I was being sarcastic. Sorry for the confusion.
Without reading all these threads, we are over a month removed from the game and I still can't even talk about it.
I have never had a single game or season change my view of a program/coach the way this one did. With other teams it was a more gradual "awakening" to the limits of a coach. But boy did this one hit all at once.
The team was so talented they dominated the conference despite being mismanaged the entire way. When we look back on this team down the road, we are going to cry because the talent on the team was almost taken for granted. This team was flat out stacked.
I will always view this season as the year a coach refused to let his best players play together and adjust his coaching style to their abilities. For me its an unforgivable mistake. One that was far too easy to see coming.
What a joke. Yeah cronin just lucked into 30 wins
With the talent we had, it would've been really hard not to win 30+. I think that's the point.
Your certainly entitled to your opinion but I feel Mick handled Broome fine. He had no experience on the bench and he used Cane as a offensive spark coming off the bench. I guess he could have started him and got good results but in the end bringing him off he bench worked fine. He holds his players accountable and they responded to a 31-4 season winning both conference and league titles. I do agree with you he did not Coach well in the Nevada game. I got to tell you though he had a bunch of help in that game. Blowing a 22 point lead is not a one man job. The players were terrible as well. I was yelling at the TV myself.yeah did i not make that clear? the team was completed loaded playing in a conference with 0 sweet 16 teams.
if anybody thinks the PG spot wasn't terribly mismanaged then you've got blinders on. absolutely no reason to use broome that way. In november if you want to ease him into it and make it clear to him you expect certain things, then fine. But throughout the entire season?. Thats absurd. when i think about how good broome was playing before the conference tournament, and then got pulled 30 seconds into the first game of the tournament over a mistake, its sad. you could see the confidence leave broome. mick gambled broome would respond to it and he lost. Think how rarely the best 5 played together all season when the whole world, including mick, knew it was our best lineup.
but it was par for the course as he's done this with a long list of other players. its just this team had national championship game potential and an extremely easy road to get there (compared to what it would usually take).
and i've had this stance since the black and red game and unfortunately saw it coming the entire way while the same people rolling their eyes at me now said it was fine, coach knows best. he was wrong. we watched the best team in who knows how long, be capped at the round of 32 and when we look to the future, the talent level is nowhere close to what we had. it leaves you realizing 2nd weekend of the tournament is not a realistic goal for this program. its getting to the tournament and maybe winning 1 game.
and this is coming from a person that has always talked about how we've been unlucky in the postseason. match ups were bad, seeds were wrong, got tough draws. and we always had been on the unluckier side. but now even with everything falling perfectly for us, it still didn't happen. mick is just on the sidelines losing his mind screaming and telling others to calm the F down. probably should look in the mirror.
Using your logic wouldn't it also be hard to blow a 22 point lead?With the talent we had, it would've been really hard not to win 30+. I think that's the point.