Future Team

[waterhead]

I think Williams will be fine. He is going to get the message that he needs to use his superior athleticism on D if he wants to play in front of other options. I think they can make some minor tweaks to his shot to get him to 30+% from three. I believe he shot over 30% in HS and he must have done it in practice if Cronin allowed him to shoot as much as he did early on.

His upside is much higher than Moore. We will likely still want to see other players shooting the volume...but as long as Williams can show he is at least a threat to make a three...he can use his other tools.

We should be fine on the perimeter but the problem is we don't have much in the paint to keep a D honest so they can guard the perimeter more. We are going to want to clear the paint a little bit and let the guards drive some if the D is going to crowd the perimeter. I think we have some guys who can take advantage of this in Cane, Jarron, and Keith.

If we try to run a traditional offense with 2 bigs and try to feed them in the paint a lot I think my head might explode. We will have to do it a little bit so I hope ALL the bigs are working on paint scoring primarily.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

I think Williams will be fine. He is going to get the message that he needs to use his superior athleticism on D if he wants to play in front of other options. I think they can make some minor tweaks to his shot to get him to 30+% from three. I believe he shot over 30% in HS and he must have done it in practice if Cronin allowed him to shoot as much as he did early on.

His upside is much higher than Moore. We will likely still want to see other players shooting the volume...but as long as Williams can show he is at least a threat to make a three...he can use his other tools.

We should be fine on the perimeter but the problem is we don't have much in the paint to keep a D honest so they can guard the perimeter more. We are going to want to clear the paint a little bit and let the guards drive some if the D is going to crowd the perimeter. I think we have some guys who can take advantage of this in Cane, Jarron, and Keith.

If we try to run a traditional offense with 2 bigs and try to feed them in the paint a lot I think my head might explode. We will have to do it a little bit so I hope ALL the bigs are working on paint scoring primarily.

Nsoseme and Diarra should get 0 (and I do mean 0) post touches next year. Scott only in the high post to work handoffs and face ups. And Brooks only with a serious mismatch.

 

[GarradJ21]

Here are some predictions I have for the upcoming season (pretty basic for the most part):

We run 4 guard offense a lot but start the game with two bigs

Cumberland averages 17 + a game

Fredericks commits and starts

Cane starts. I think Cronin realizes he needs to wake up.

We make the sweet 16...How many times do we see a run happen when you least expect it and the opposite happens when you expect a team to really make a run (this year)

We have an extremely good taste in our mouth at the end of the season knowing we will have Logan Johnson for 3 more years.

 

[justinhub2003]

Not sure if this link of Logan Johnson has been posted but man this video makes me feel really good about him.


He is super athletic and dunks with ease in game.

http://www.hudl.com/v/27cEzS

 

[Queens_NYC]

Response below.

Here are some predictions I have for the upcoming season (pretty basic for the most part):

We run 4 guard offense a lot but start the game with two bigs

I think this is contingent on Fredericks being on the team but regardless I think we'll see more 4 guard line-ups this season than last

Cumberland averages 17 + a game

I'll take the under but I think he'll be close; probably in the 15-17 range

Fredericks commits and starts

I'd be happy with that

Cane starts. I think Cronin realizes he needs to wake up.

I hope so

We make the sweet 16...How many times do we see a run happen when you least expect it and the opposite happens when you expect a team to really make a run (this year)

My prediction right now would be NCAA 1st round loss but I hope you're right and I'm wrong

We have an extremely good taste in our mouth at the end of the season knowing we will have Logan Johnson for 3 more years.

Agree 1000% on this. I think he's going to be the most explosive PG of the Cronin era and a real playmaker from the moment he steps on campus.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Here are some predictions I have for the upcoming season (pretty basic for the most part):

We run 4 guard offense a lot but start the game with two bigs

Cumberland averages 17 + a game

Fredericks commits and starts

Cane starts. I think Cronin realizes he needs to wake up.

We make the sweet 16...How many times do we see a run happen when you least expect it and the opposite happens when you expect a team to really make a run (this year)

We have an extremely good taste in our mouth at the end of the season knowing we will have Logan Johnson for 3 more years.

For us? Never?

What seed do you see us getting? If we are a 6-11 seed, how do you expect us to win a 2nd round game against a Top 3 seed?

 

[Jon Rycek]

For us? Never?

What seed do you see us getting? If we are a 6-11 seed, how do you expect us to win a 2nd round game against a Top 3 seed?

Like we did against fl state? Quit whining already Jesus

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Like we did against fl state? Quit whining already Jesus

We were in the Big East Finals that year after beating Syracuse. You think that run was unexpected? Jesus.

 

[GarradJ21]

For us? Never?

What seed do you see us getting? If we are a 6-11 seed, how do you expect us to win a 2nd round game against a Top 3 seed?

Not so much for us but it could happen. With a some of these talents like cane and Cumberland and we end up a 6 or 5 I could see it more than the years with jermain sanders and the next year with Ellis and them as seniors.. I mean overall you wouldn’t expect a huge run or anything but it could def happen... I still think this up coming year can produce a lot of wins I mean I don’t know how the committee will view Xavier and UCLA type wins at home but a 4 seed isn’t out of the picture. Now 1-3 is going to be tough

Depending on this season stacks up, a 6 seed to a 11 wasn’t a huge difference. I still want to avoid an 8/9 I would rather drop to the 7/10 or 11 than 8/9..not trying to see a whole bunch of NBA talent on one team in the second round, but that did happen to us two years ago when playing UCLA but this past year If we ended up as a 6 we would have had just as good of a chance to make the sweet 16 as we did as a 2

Year to year varies on strengths of seeds

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Not so much for us but it could happen. With a some of these talents like cane and Cumberland and we end up a 6 or 5 I could see it more than the years with jermain sanders and the next year with Ellis and them as seniors.. I mean overall you wouldn’t expect a huge run or anything but it could def happen... I still think this up coming year can produce a lot of wins I mean I don’t know how the committee will view Xavier and UCLA type wins at home but a 4 seed isn’t out of the picture. Now 1-3 is going to be tough

Depending on this season stacks up, a 6 seed to a 11 wasn’t a huge difference. I still want to avoid an 8/9 I would rather drop to the 7/10 or 11 than 8/9..not trying to see a whole bunch of NBA talent on one team in the second round, but that did happen to us two years ago when playing UCLA but this past year If we ended up as a 6 we would have had just as good of a chance to make the sweet 16 as we did as a 2

Year to year varies on strengths of seeds

I think a 4 seed is crazy talk. Especially bc the committee respected the AAC more this year and no teams made it out of the 1st weekend. SMU got a 6 after going 20-1 in AAC play to end the year last year. I think it'll be more like that at best for our league'stop seed.

 

[GarradJ21]

I’ll say, I am starting to get excited for next year as the Nevada loss is a month behind us. I’ll never fully get over it but time helps.

Next year will be cool because of Cumberland he’s more aggressive than anyone we have had on any of our teams since Kilpatrick. I mean Jacob had the most talent since Kilpatrick and maybe ever since Lance as far as the Cronin era but i don’t think Evans was built to be “the guy.” Cumberland is. Gary was amazing for us of course and truly was the best glue guy/do it all type player. But man, Cumberland really showed me down the stretch that he’s ready for this to be his team. He will be getting bucket after bucket next year. Yes, teams will know that’s our go to weapon, but I just don’t think many teams will stop him. We still will even have solid weapons outside of Cumberland. That’s the difference than the year with Kilpatrick. Everyone knew Kilpatrick was our go to guy, and SK still got his his buckets, and had very few options.. Cumberland will do the same on an overall more talented team with better options than SK

Other options will be:
Cane. Cane really can create and get an open look pretty much any time he wants
Tre. Tre knows he has to step up in Gary’s absence he was showing signs towards the end of the year. I don’t think he will be a dominate force but def can get east buckets when Cumberland and cane are getting attention. I mean I don’t know if Justin Jackson was really any better than Tre will be so that to me is a wash
I’m hoping Fredericks will be another good option then either Keith or Trevor

Still a lot of question marks on our upcoming team but def think our new Kilpatrick in Cumberland will be able to score at will and have better options overall than SK had

 

[cincycpaw]

I'm not excited for next year yet. I'm sure I will get there.

I am excited to see Cumberland...he is a beast. I'm excited to see Cane being Cane since Cronin doesn't really have any other choice.

I'm very interested in seeing which Freshman takes a huge leap, opportunity for each of them to get a lot of playing time if they improve their game. I'm nervous that no one will, but we've seen it before...not usually after only a freshman season though....fingers crossed

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

I'm not excited for next year yet. I'm sure I will get there.

I am excited to see Cumberland...he is a beast. I'm excited to see Cane being Cane since Cronin doesn't really have any other choice.

I'm very interested in seeing which Freshman takes a huge leap, opportunity for each of them to get a lot of playing time if they improve their game. I'm nervous that no one will, but we've seen it before...not usually after only a freshman season though....fingers crossed

Just my opinion but cane being cane is a much better thing team wise this year then it was last year. On last years team him pounding the ball instead of sharing it with Clark, Evans, Washington and JC was not going to make us more effective. Using him off the bench while he fined tuned his game was a good move in my opinion. He was able to play more to his strengths while adjusting his game. This notion of Cronin being Cronin is laughable. He has been very successful in his tenure here short of a deep run in the NCAA.

 

[cincycpaw]

Just my opinion but cane being cane is a much better thing team wise this year then it was last year. On last years team him pounding the ball instead of sharing it with Clark, Evans, Washington and JC was not going to make us more effective. Using him off the bench while he fined tuned his game was a good move in my opinion. He was able to play more to his strengths while adjusting his game. This notion of Cronin being Cronin is laughable. He has been very successful in his tenure here short of a deep run in the NCAA.

Deep run? I'd take a modest run...any run.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Deep run? I'd take a modest run...any run.

LOL me too!!!!

 

[waterhead]

Not sure if this link of Logan Johnson has been posted but man this video makes me feel really good about him.


He is super athletic and dunks with ease in game.

http://www.hudl.com/v/27cEzS

Super excited about Logan! Ambidextrous, athletic, plays with a lot of heart, finishes in the lane with either hand, can dunk with either hand, can shoot a little, gets after it on D and loose balls, very good instincts.

I hope he can adjust right away to the speed of D1.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Super excited about Logan! Ambidextrous, athletic, plays with a lot of heart, finishes in the lane with either hand, can dunk with either hand, can shoot a little, gets after it on D and loose balls, very good instincts.

I hope he can adjust right away to the speed of D1.

I don't see any version of his college career playing out where he isn't good.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Next years team will be dependent on how much the current roster moves forward. Player development will be the key to how good we become. Williams, Moore, Ellie, Brooks , Scott and Cane will all need to draw on last years experience and build on that foundation. The newcomers will have to hit the ground running but that is doable. Our depth should be better. We lost some big contributors but I'm hopeful that collectively the team can fill the gap. We will not be getting a 5* recruit to save the day.

 

[Nayers]

Just my opinion but cane being cane is a much better thing team wise this year then it was last year. On last years team him pounding the ball instead of sharing it with Clark, Evans, Washington and JC was not going to make us more effective. Using him off the bench while he fined tuned his game was a good move in my opinion. He was able to play more to his strengths while adjusting his game. This notion of Cronin being Cronin is laughable. He has been very successful in his tenure here short of a deep run in the NCAA.

I would say he has had some successes here. Very successful is not a term id use. That's reserved for more than 1 outright conference championship and conference tourney championship win. Especially considering we've not been in a power 5/6 for 5 years now.

Just curious, what strengths was cane able to play to as a result of coming off the bench, vs starting?

The main improvement I saw from him was when he actually started getting the lions share of minutes at PG.

 

[Helicopter]

I have said it over and over again. The ONLY metric I have for success is postseason success in the NCAA tourney. All the other stuff to me is noise.