How much fun would a Tournament be??

[Thegreatone]

If OSU was going to play Auburn next and TCU would be playing oregon with the winner meeting the NC. That would be sweet.

I know some people like the current way, but damn it would be a lot of fun seeing these teams in a tournament style. Cut out 2 games a year and play 10 games per season. It would be worth it IMO.

 

[ME80]

If OSU was going to play Auburn next and TCU would be playing oregon with the winner meeting the NC. That would be sweet.

I know some people like the current way, but damn it would be a lot of fun seeing these teams in a tournament style. Cut out 2 games a year and play 10 games per season. It would be worth it IMO.

Come on Mark Cuban!

 

[DontMissHim]

Love the current system. 1-regular season is one of best in sports. You are pretty much playing a playoff all year. 2- I love the bowl match ups, Last year we had some great ones, I really liked watching Iowas defense vs GT option. This year TCU wisconsin was real good, OSU game was solid. All the bowls leading up to the NC game- classic.---I repeat- I LOVE the match ups the BCS gives us. You can't tell me Jan 1st (with like bowl games all day) isnt awesome.

One of the biggest issues? Money. Fans dont have the money to travel weekend after weekend to watch the games. Seriously- if your team makes it to the championship and you tried to follow them from the first playoff game you would spend well over 1000 dollars in air fair, hotels, tickets. Heck, maybe even tickets alone would be over 1000.

 

[psax889906]

Love the current system. 1-regular season is one of best in sports. You are pretty much playing a playoff all year. 2- I love the bowl match ups, Last year we had some great ones, I really liked watching Iowas defense vs GT option. This year TCU wisconsin was real good, OSU game was solid. All the bowls leading up to the NC game- classic.---I repeat- I LOVE the match ups the BCS gives us. You can't tell me Jan 1st (with like bowl games all day) isnt awesome.

One of the biggest issues? Money. Fans dont have the money to travel weekend after weekend to watch the games. Seriously- if your team makes it to the championship and you tried to follow them from the first playoff game you would spend well over 1000 dollars in air fair, hotels, tickets. Heck, maybe even tickets alone would be over 1000.

Xavier doesn't have a football program. You're opinion doesn't count.

I like the bowl games- but I'm convinced a playoff would be more exciting. And I disagree with the "every week is a playoff" mindset with the current system. In a playoff system the regular season is still important. You're playing to get in and you're playing for home field advantage. With the current system, I would argue, the regular season becomes meaningless to teams (outside the SEC) once you lose a single game. At that point your chances of a national championship are all but gone.

As far as the fans and money argument- how do the lower divisions do it then??? I see a decent amount of fans at those games...

 

[JasonS]

Love the current system. 1-regular season is one of best in sports. You are pretty much playing a playoff all year. 2- I love the bowl match ups, Last year we had some great ones, I really liked watching Iowas defense vs GT option. This year TCU wisconsin was real good, OSU game was solid. All the bowls leading up to the NC game- classic.---I repeat- I LOVE the match ups the BCS gives us. You can't tell me Jan 1st (with like bowl games all day) isnt awesome.

One of the biggest issues? Money. Fans dont have the money to travel weekend after weekend to watch the games. Seriously- if your team makes it to the championship and you tried to follow them from the first playoff game you would spend well over 1000 dollars in air fair, hotels, tickets. Heck, maybe even tickets alone would be over 1000.

Nearly every bowl game this year has been a dud. TCU - Wisconsin and OSU - Arkansas were the only 2 games worth watching.

You can't call the regular season a year long playoff when a team like TCU (or Cincinnati last year or Auburn from several years back) can win all of their games and not have a chance to play for a National Title. It is a year long beauty pageant, not a playoff.

Money is not as big an issue as you think. If you have a 4 team playoff with the higher seeds getting a home game, then the higher seeded schools make more money than going to a bowl game by having another home game and the fans only have to travel to one game on a neutral field. If you go to an 8 team playoff, you can have the higher seeds play home games for the first 2 rounds and you are in the same boat. OSU lost money this year by going to the Sugar Bowl because they couldn't sell all their tickets. Most schools lose money or break even at best by going to these games. The only people making money are the people affiliated with the BCS and since they are making money, why would they want to change it and have a playoff? It is not about what is best for the schools, players, or fans. It is about what is best for those making the money.

 

[DontMissHim]

You guys bring up very valid points. I think you see a lot of fans at lower division playoffs because the ticket price alone is much less (This is just an assumption). I think a playoff would be fun, just not as good as the BCS. I truely feel the best team in college football has won the NC almost every year (-that trash OSU team in 02).

Something to note- I saw on Sportsnation that they took a poll of CFB players and more players like the current system instead of a playoff. I do think a playoff would ruin the BCS bowls. (and I am aware many teams who are not in the BCS would still go to bowl games) But teams/fans are happy winning the rose bowl- you make it too much on the national champioinship game, winning the Rose bowl would not mean much at all

 

[JasonS]

You guys bring up very valid points. I think you see a lot of fans at lower division playoffs because the ticket price alone is much less (This is just an assumption). I think a playoff would be fun, just not as good as the BCS. I truely feel the best team in college football has won the NC almost every year (-that trash OSU team in 02).

Something to note- I saw on Sportsnation that they took a poll of CFB players and more players like the current system instead of a playoff. I do think a playoff would ruin the BCS bowls. (and I am aware many teams who are not in the BCS would still go to bowl games) But teams/fans are happy winning the rose bowl- you make it too much on the national champioinship game, winning the Rose bowl would not mean much at all

I am ok with that. Winning the Rose Bowl means nothing anyway. Nice job TCU. We still don't know if you could win against Auburn or Oregon but nice season and thanks for trying. Maybe next year.

 

[catsfan32]

Love the current system. 1-regular season is one of best in sports. You are pretty much playing a playoff all year. 2- I love the bowl match ups, Last year we had some great ones, I really liked watching Iowas defense vs GT option. This year TCU wisconsin was real good, OSU game was solid. All the bowls leading up to the NC game- classic.---I repeat- I LOVE the match ups the BCS gives us. You can't tell me Jan 1st (with like bowl games all day) isnt awesome.

One of the biggest issues? Money. Fans dont have the money to travel weekend after weekend to watch the games. Seriously- if your team makes it to the championship and you tried to follow them from the first playoff game you would spend well over 1000 dollars in air fair, hotels, tickets. Heck, maybe even tickets alone would be over 1000.

This is the worst argument ever for the continuation of the "Bowl game" vs playoff dilemma. The regular season means absolutely jack $hit for 98% of teams. They simply will never have a chance to win the NC no matter what they do in the regular season. I think its the most ridiculous system in sports honestly. As for the bowl matchups; viewership is down as a whole, only a handful are exciting, and even the BCS games don't carry any weight for whoever wins. Great, you can say you won the orange bowl, or sugar, etc., but in the end you didn't have a chance to win it all. Isn't that what sports are all about? Determining on the field of play who is the best!

You can't tell me having an 8 team playoff wouldn't be amazing to see and make boat tons of more money. The excuse that its to demanding on the athletes is a complete joke. There will always be enough booster and interest to fill stadiums if your team makes it through to the finals, period!

 

[Kingsley Court]

This is the worst argument ever for the continuation of the "Bowl game" vs playoff dilemma. The regular season means absolutely jack $hit for 98% of teams. They simply will never have a chance to win the NC no matter what they do in the regular season. I think its the most ridiculous system in sports honestly. As for the bowl matchups; viewership is down as a whole, only a handful are exciting, and even the BCS games don't carry any weight for whoever wins. Great, you can say you won the orange bowl, or sugar, etc., but in the end you didn't have a chance to win it all. Isn't that what sports are all about? Determining on the field of play who is the best!

You can't tell me having an 8 team playoff wouldn't be amazing to see and make boat tons of more money. The excuse that its to demanding on the athletes is a complete joke. There will always be enough booster and interest to fill stadiums if your team makes it through to the finals, period!

Would be the exact same in the playoff scenario. Who gets in this year? Boise, Tcu, OSU, Wisconsin, Oregon, Auburn, Alabama, Arkansas? Completley iliminate the Big 12, ACC and Big East? 98 percent of the schools have no chance any ways. No one from outside of the BCS would get invited, save Boise State. I wouldn't have been shocked to so Michigan State get invited, and they clearly wouldn't have deserved it. The name teams still would get all the invites, so I don't like the excuse "everybody has a chance."

The system works, Boise has risen and made themselves a name. They were legit championship contenders this year. In a playoff system, I don't think they would have had a chance to build their name like they have.

 

[Kingsley Court]

Great, you can say you won the orange bowl, or sugar, etc., but in the end you didn't have a chance to win it all. Isn't that what sports are all about? Determining on the field of play who is the best!

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You had a chance all year. The regular season gives you that chance. Also, are you going to say that if you don't win your conference, or even get to the conference championship game, you can still get invited to the BCS tourny? I think either way you are leaving out good teams, and there will be complaints either way. At least with this BCS mode, teams have that reward at the end of the season. They get all those bowl game packages, and have a great experience. In the tournament format, they don't get that stuff. Bowl games are rewards for the season your team had.

 

[Kingsley Court]

I am ok with that. Winning the Rose Bowl means nothing anyway. Nice job TCU. We still don't know if you could win against Auburn or Oregon but nice season and thanks for trying. Maybe next year.

Without the BCS the way it is, they probably would have never even had a shot to win the Championship. If they had an 8 game playoff, I doubt they and Boise would have been invited in recent years. Remember when Boise played OU, no one thought Boise deserved that, look what happened, it changed their program around. 8 game playoff, not sure they get that chance.

 

[DontMissHim]

This is the worst argument ever for the continuation of the "Bowl game" vs playoff dilemma. The regular season means absolutely jack $hit for 98% of teams. They simply will never have a chance to win the NC no matter what they do in the regular season. I think its the most ridiculous system in sports honestly. As for the bowl matchups; viewership is down as a whole, only a handful are exciting, and even the BCS games don't carry any weight for whoever wins. Great, you can say you won the orange bowl, or sugar, etc., but in the end you didn't have a chance to win it all. Isn't that what sports are all about? Determining on the field of play who is the best!

You can't tell me having an 8 team playoff wouldn't be amazing to see and make boat tons of more money. The excuse that its to demanding on the athletes is a complete joke. There will always be enough booster and interest to fill stadiums if your team makes it through to the finals, period!

Do you honestly think a playoff would change that? I would say about 15 teams have a shot at the NC every year- and with a playoff maybe 20 teams have a shot at a spot in the playoffs. Wouldnt change the chance of winning it at all for most teams. The difference? 15 teams know they have to win every single game for a shot at the NC. If you are top 5 coming into the season you can afford to have 2 losses and still have a shot at the NC. lame

Also- who wants to see an SEC championship game where teams sit there players. You think Auburn would risk losing Cam forthe playoffs? or you dont think that would happen? ask the NFL if they sit players after knowing where they sit in the playoffs.

 

[JasonS]

If there was an 8 team playoff it would go like this. The winners of the BCS conferences would be in the playoff and there would be 2 more spots for the next highest BCS ranked teams. This year the playoff would have been:

Auburn
Oregon
Virginia Tech
Oklahoma
UCONN
Wisconsin
Stanford
TCU

That would have been awesome!

 

[catsfan32]

Do you honestly think a playoff would change that? I would say about 15 teams have a shot at the NC every year- and with a playoff maybe 20 teams have a shot at a spot in the playoffs. Wouldnt change the chance of winning it at all for most teams. The difference? 15 teams know they have to win every single game for a shot at the NC. If you are top 5 coming into the season you can afford to have 2 losses and still have a shot at the NC. lame

Also- who wants to see an SEC championship game where teams sit there players. You think Auburn would risk losing Cam forthe playoffs? or you dont think that would happen? ask the NFL if they sit players after knowing where they sit in the playoffs.

You act as if its a hard formula to come up with. As the previous poster stated, you have your 6 BCS conference winners make it, then two at large according to polls/bcs rankings. This still means the likes of TCU and Boise have a chance to win the NC. Thus allowing everyone to actually have a chance to win the NC, all you have to do is win your conference or be the two highest at large to then have the right to play for the NC. You could also have these shitty a$$ bowls we have now for teams who didn't make it for a reward at the end of the season. Jesus people its not rocket science!

 

[DontMissHim]

You act as if its a hard formula to come up with. As the previous poster stated, you have your 6 BCS conference winners make it, then two at large according to polls/bcs rankings. This still means the likes of TCU and Boise have a chance to win the NC. Thus allowing everyone to actually have a chance to win the NC, all you have to do is win your conference or be the two highest at large to then have the right to play for the NC. You could also have these shitty a$$ bowls we have now for teams who didn't make it for a reward at the end of the season. Jesus people its not rocket science!

Thats a flawed formula. You reward teams for not playing a tough schedule. Would you rather be in the SEC trying to get a playoff spot or be Boise state?!--Its unfair to the BCS school and by a pretty wide margin. That system rewards bad schedules.

 

[JasonS]

Thats a flawed formula. You reward teams for not playing a tough schedule. Would you rather be in the SEC trying to get a playoff spot or be Boise state?!--Its unfair to the BCS school and by a pretty wide margin. That system rewards bad schedules.

Who did Wisconsin play this year? Who did OSU play this year? Did Oregon play anyone out of conference this year? I honestly don't remember that one.

The current system already rewards bad schedules.

 

[catsfan32]

Thats a flawed formula. You reward teams for not playing a tough schedule. Would you rather be in the SEC trying to get a playoff spot or be Boise state?!--Its unfair to the BCS school and by a pretty wide margin. That system rewards bad schedules.

Are you serious with this? You do know BCS teams water down their OOC schedule already right? Why would it not be fair to have every BCS conference team have a chance to win the NC? All they have to do is win their conference. Isn't that what everyone's goal is at the beginning of the year? Not only that, if the Boise's and TCU's of the world have an amazing season they also could be rewarded with playing for the NC. Face it your stance on this matter is so flawed it's amazing you can't see it.

 

[catsfan32]

Thats a flawed formula. You reward teams for not playing a tough schedule. Would you rather be in the SEC trying to get a playoff spot or be Boise state?!--Its unfair to the BCS school and by a pretty wide margin. That system rewards bad schedules.

Oh and also, why would it be so hard to imagine teams would schedule much harder to prepare them for their conference games because in the end winning your conference will get you a chance to win the NC! A couple loses OOC won't mean you are out of the hunt for the NC.

 

[DontMissHim]

Who did Wisconsin play this year? Who did OSU play this year? Did Oregon play anyone out of conference this year? I honestly don't remember that one.

The current system already rewards bad schedules.

All those teams play in BCS conferences- which is head and shoulders better then what TCU or Boise play. They don't need to schedule OOC games. Oregon played Stanford who whipped the floor with VT (Boises only good team this year)

 

[DontMissHim]

Are you serious with this? You do know BCS teams water down their OOC schedule already right? Why would it not be fair to have every BCS conference team have a chance to win the NC? All they have to do is win their conference. Isn't that what everyone's goal is at the beginning of the year? Not only that, if the Boise's and TCU's of the world have an amazing season they also could be rewarded with playing for the NC. Face it your stance on this matter is so flawed it's amazing you can't see it.

Their is absolutely zero chance BSU or TCU play a harder schedule then any of the other potential playoff teams. I dont care how watered down the BCS teams OOC schedule is- their schedule is always harder then what Non BCS teams play- TCU/Boise can schedule two top 25 teams OOC and dominate in conference and get to the playoffs. BCS schools have a ridiculously hard schedule then on top of that have to play in a conference championship game. Which seems easier to you? Boise State would make the playoffs every year with this system- just not fair to the likes of ANYONE in the SEC.

With this system I think you would see a lot more teams try and go Independent--just easier to get a playoff spot then go through a Big 10/SEC season