I give Cumberland a lot of slack here as the entire offense is him running back and forth along the baseline for 40 minutes.
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I give Cumberland a lot of slack here as the entire offense is him running back and forth along the baseline for 40 minutes.
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Huh? Not sure I'm following, but I never said anything like that whatsoever. Our defense under Cronin has year in and out been top notch. It's really weird though that we've seen such a massive spike in attempts vs us. The cause could be a ton of different things. Who better to get an answer from than by asking the coaching staff?
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Someone would really have to dig into the game film to try and get a good answer.
Not being critical of your statements at all...just being a little sarcastic & snarky about the coaching staff's inability to get the players to do what they want
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I give Cumberland a lot of slack here as the entire offense is him running back and forth along the baseline for 40 minutes.
Agreed. Cumberland gets a pass with turnovers and defensive lapses.
Tre, however, does not. He should be the best defensive player on the team. 6'8, long, athletic. Him getting 1 rebound yesterday is simple unacceptable. That's beyond bad. Benching worthy.
Agreed. Cumberland gets a pass with turnovers and defensive lapses.
Tre, however, does not. He should be the best defensive player on the team. 6'8, long, athletic. Him getting 1 rebound yesterday is simple unacceptable. That's beyond bad. Benching worthy.
Agree.
Been looking for NCAA records in assist to turnover ratio but can't seem to find anything reliable. I assume Jenifer meets the minimum requirements. It seems like you need to average 3 per game...currently he is at 4.4.
I saw where it states Monte Morris broke his own record his SR year with 5.21 to 1. Looks like Frankamp was at 5.8 to 1 last year (not sure if he qualified on quantity). Currently Jenifer sits at 8.8 to 1 so he's got a good cushion. That would be some achievement!
Assuming the real record is 5.21 to 1 (in 2017) he could potentially smash the record if he can keep the average above 3 per game.
I think before conference Jenifer got up to around 9 to 1 but now is back to 7 to 1. He was at 4.4 assists per game and now at 3.8. He has to be at 3 per game to qualify for the record I think but he is trending down in a hurry. I don't think the Cumberland show is helping his cause...and conference has been a real bitch so far.
So far Jenifer is 6 assists to 5 turnovers in conference. OOC he was 58 to 6. Uh oh
I think before conference Jenifer got up to around 9 to 1 but now is back to 7 to 1. He was at 4.4 assists per game and now at 3.8. He has to be at 3 per game to qualify for the record I think but he is trending down in a hurry. I don't think the Cumberland show is helping his cause...and conference has been a real bitch so far.
So far Jenifer is 6 assists to 5 turnovers in conference. OOC he was 58 to 6. Uh oh
Meanwhile Cane is at 13 to 5 in conference. Not starting a controversy here but Jenifer needs to get back to being who he was OOC. At least a similar version. I would be happy at 3 to 1 for him
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Meanwhile Cane is at 13 to 5 in conference. Not starting a controversy here but Jenifer needs to get back to being who he was OOC. At least a similar version. I would be happy at 3 to 1 for him
Interesting stats in the interesting stats thread.
In conference play
Points
Jenifer - 50
Broome - 44
Assists
Jenifer - 11
Broome - 16
who saw that coming.
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Meanwhile Cane is at 13 to 5 in conference. Not starting a controversy here but Jenifer needs to get back to being who he was OOC. At least a similar version. I would be happy at 3 to 1 for him
I believe three of those five turnovers have been charges, including both last night. His assists have dropped off the face of the earth. He went two straight games without one. Both games he was battling the flu, but honestly while it affected his minutes, he didnt really seem any different on the court. The offense simply has been putrid the last few games as far as ball movement and players getting open. We're still scoring points thankfully. Most of that I attribute to these AAC refs and also familiar opponents. I think conference teams have learned how to play us whereas non conference teams are half really crappy and also probably dont really know what to expect when playing us. But outside of the Tulane game, these past four games have been very physical. Fortunately the refs are calling fouls this year as mind numbing as it can seem at times. Justin definitely needs to get on track. We need him to play like he has much of the year. But our players as a whole are too soft to deal with physical play. Thus why we've been out rebounded the last two games. Jenifer needs to get back to dribbling into the paint and dishing. Otherwise the defense is just setting in against us and forcing jump shots or us to get Jarron to try and draw a foul. And honestly the way these refs are calling games that might me my gameplan from here out. Dribble in on these guys and draw fouls.
So far in conference we have had the easiest schedule according to Bartorvik. We are ranked 5th in adjo and 10th in adjd. We have the hardest schedule remaining.
Those aren't good numbers (based on the sos) and that is not a good trend to start conference with. Part of that is just hot shooting by the competition but part of that is on us. I really hope we get it together quickly on D. Something has to change there. We have the ability but do we have the mentality? The breakdowns have to stop. The over helping, missed assignments etc.
On offense I think we need to give Cumberland some breaks and use more of a team approach more often.
Those aren't good numbers (based on the sos) and that is not a good trend to start conference with. Part of that is just hot shooting by the competition but part of that is on us. I really hope we get it together quickly on D. Something has to change there. We have the ability but do we have the mentality? The breakdowns have to stop. The over helping, missed assignments etc.
On offense I think we need to give Cumberland some breaks and use more of a team approach more often.
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One thing Ive been interested with this year has been our team FT shooting. Generally, we always seem to be a poor free throw shooting team but this year that is not the case. We are currently at 72.1% which as far as I can tell would be the best under Cronin and best as a program since the 05-06 team (74.7%)
Currently, Jarron (80.2%), Justin (79.4%) and Cane (78.7%) are putting up strong numbers, but the biggest thing has been FT shooting of our big guys, Tre (72.2%) and Nysier (66.2%) having solid years from the line. I believe in the South Florida game we were 29 of 32 from the line! Cant ever remember a UC team doing that.
Currently, Jarron (80.2%), Justin (79.4%) and Cane (78.7%) are putting up strong numbers, but the biggest thing has been FT shooting of our big guys, Tre (72.2%) and Nysier (66.2%) having solid years from the line. I believe in the South Florida game we were 29 of 32 from the line! Cant ever remember a UC team doing that.
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One thing Ive been interested with this year has been our team FT shooting. Generally, we always seem to be a poor free throw shooting team but this year that is not the case. We are currently at 72.1% which as far as I can tell would be the best under Cronin and best as a program since the 05-06 team (74.7%)
Currently, Jarron (80.2%), Justin (79.4%) and Cane (78.7%) are putting up strong numbers, but the biggest thing has been FT shooting of our big guys, Tre (72.2%) and Nysier (66.2%) having solid years from the line. I believe in the South Florida game we were 29 of 32 from the line! Cant ever remember a UC team doing that.
FT's have been a pretty nice surprise this year. Cumberland is 31 of 38 in his last 3 games. That's a lot of damn FT's. He went from 64% his FR year to 68% last year to 80% this year. That's also impressive. He's almost 10 points higher in 3% as well.
Jenifer's steady improvement year over year has been a welcome site as well. Although he only has 3 assists to 5 turnovers in his last 4 games with two goose egg performances on assists. The ISO play is really killing that part of his game.
Was just looking at kenpom, Illinois is 6-14 and they are ranked #80...
They are #60 on Bartorvik site...lol
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They are #60 on Bartorvik site...lol
16 of their 20 games have been against the top 90. 8 against the top 35. 4 against the top 15.
I went through the Bartorvik site to see what our expected seed would be if we lost anywhere from 0-5 more times.
Our seed line on that site would mirror our losses in the scenarios I chose.
8 losses = 8 seed (hopefully worst case)
7 losses = 7 seed
3 losses = 3 seed (best case)
And so on. And I think that is probably pretty close to accurate. So I am hoping for 4 or less losses the rest of the way to avoid that 8-9 seed. I did not put in any "extra games" for the conference tourney which could affect the seeding slightly give or take a seed line for poor or great performance. Maybe we could get a 2 seed if we won the tourney or maybe we could get a 9 seed if we lost the first game etc.
Our seed line on that site would mirror our losses in the scenarios I chose.
8 losses = 8 seed (hopefully worst case)
7 losses = 7 seed
3 losses = 3 seed (best case)
And so on. And I think that is probably pretty close to accurate. So I am hoping for 4 or less losses the rest of the way to avoid that 8-9 seed. I did not put in any "extra games" for the conference tourney which could affect the seeding slightly give or take a seed line for poor or great performance. Maybe we could get a 2 seed if we won the tourney or maybe we could get a 9 seed if we lost the first game etc.
Didn’t see it anywhere else, but ESPN realeased a Top 25 college basketball players today and Cumberland was 14th, not too shabby.
His impact on this team is hard to understate. He's been money down the stretch in most close games. Impressive season thus far and he seems to be getting better.
NC State put up only 24 points on Saturday at home against VTech, the lowest ever for a ranked team in the shot clock era. They were averaging 84 points per game, and hadn't scored less than 65 all season. They went 9-54 (17%) from the field and 2-28 (7%) from three.