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NC State put up only 24 points on Saturday at home against VTech, the lowest ever for a ranked team in the shot clock era. They were averaging 84 points per game, and hadn't scored less than 65 all season. They went 9-54 (17%) from the field and 2-28 (7%) from three.
The numbers on that game are just amazing. Their two starting guards went a combined 0-fer from the field. Their center hit only one shot, and it was a three. This was despite the fact that he pulled down 7 offensive rebounds.
When I saw that box score, I tried to imagine the reaction if a Mick Cronin team had done it.
The numbers on that game are just amazing. Their two starting guards went a combined 0-fer from the field. Their center hit only one shot, and it was a three. This was despite the fact that he pulled down 7 offensive rebounds.
When I saw that box score, I tried to imagine the reaction if a Mick Cronin team had done it.
"Yea we only scored 24 points, but it was our defensive intensity that was lacking."
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but we're back in the Top 25.
Congrats to the team and coach for getting there! Going to have to at least split to stay in. Might be a good idea to get it out of the way in Memphis...LOL!
Very encouraging to see Williams knocking down 3s right now (without banking them in). In his last 7 games he's shooting 47% admittedly on low volume.
If we can just get Cane and Trevor (from here on out) shooting at 35% or so that could make us very dangerous come March knowing we have 5 capable shooters to put on the floor.
It seems like coach is really working on Moore's confidence. I hope he can get Broome in the right state of mind as well for the stretch run. Keith never lacks confidence. If we can get some consistent bench scoring it will go a long way.
If we can also get that D up to Cronin standards...we would be a VERY tough out.
If we can just get Cane and Trevor (from here on out) shooting at 35% or so that could make us very dangerous come March knowing we have 5 capable shooters to put on the floor.
It seems like coach is really working on Moore's confidence. I hope he can get Broome in the right state of mind as well for the stretch run. Keith never lacks confidence. If we can get some consistent bench scoring it will go a long way.
If we can also get that D up to Cronin standards...we would be a VERY tough out.
To foul or not to foul Cumberland? In his last 6 games he has attempted more than 10 FT's 4 times. His shooting in those games...
2 pt shots...19 of 45 for 42%
3 pt shots...6 of 23 for 26%
43 FT's made
Total points 22, 24, 18, 25 (22.25 avg)
In the other two games he shot 5 FTs and 2 FT's
2 pt shots...7 of 12 for 58%
3 pt shots...10 of 20 for 50%
3 FT's made
Total points...23 and 24 (23.5 avg)
Pick your poison! Put him on the line with aggressive D or watch him drain the shots.
2 pt shots...19 of 45 for 42%
3 pt shots...6 of 23 for 26%
43 FT's made
Total points 22, 24, 18, 25 (22.25 avg)
In the other two games he shot 5 FTs and 2 FT's
2 pt shots...7 of 12 for 58%
3 pt shots...10 of 20 for 50%
3 FT's made
Total points...23 and 24 (23.5 avg)
Pick your poison! Put him on the line with aggressive D or watch him drain the shots.
Was looking at the archived record book on GoBearcats. For some reason the archives only go back to 2006. Cronin started in 2007...LOL! I don't know why they don't have an updated record book. If someone knows where to find one I would love to see it. However, near as I can tell (may be mistakes)
One the career points list 1000 club (if updated as I see it)...
SK would be #2 (2145)
Vaughn #4 (1885)
Gates #13 (1485)
Clark #14 (1462)
Caupain #22 (1317)
Wright #22 (tied) (1317)
Dixon #26 (1281)
Evans #30 (1233)
Cumberland (1117 TBD)
A couple of side notes. I think the current bunch of 4 year guys have a very good chance to finish with the most wins all time (regular season). It shows Logan at 111 and then Gregor at 100 (although I think 2nd place has been achieved). Jenifer has 102 right now. But Cumberland, Scott and Brooks can go even higher as Jenifer had 22 wins his frosh year and the others started with 30 and 31. I think Caupain and Johnson had a crack at 102 wins and Clark 106.
Believe it or not Jenifer's career 3 average is .389. With 100 makes to qualify (now at 93 makes) if he stayed at that average would end up 3rd on the career % list. Although the others had a lot more attempts. Cumberland at .370. Updating the list for 100 makes (i could be missing a player or two). The list had 6 players on it already.
Williams .401
Burton .394
Jenifer .389 (if he gets there)
Durden .385
Logan .378
Evans .377
Cumberland .370
Van Exel .358
Wright .349
Levet .348
SK was at .347
Vaughn .343
One the career points list 1000 club (if updated as I see it)...
SK would be #2 (2145)
Vaughn #4 (1885)
Gates #13 (1485)
Clark #14 (1462)
Caupain #22 (1317)
Wright #22 (tied) (1317)
Dixon #26 (1281)
Evans #30 (1233)
Cumberland (1117 TBD)
A couple of side notes. I think the current bunch of 4 year guys have a very good chance to finish with the most wins all time (regular season). It shows Logan at 111 and then Gregor at 100 (although I think 2nd place has been achieved). Jenifer has 102 right now. But Cumberland, Scott and Brooks can go even higher as Jenifer had 22 wins his frosh year and the others started with 30 and 31. I think Caupain and Johnson had a crack at 102 wins and Clark 106.
Believe it or not Jenifer's career 3 average is .389. With 100 makes to qualify (now at 93 makes) if he stayed at that average would end up 3rd on the career % list. Although the others had a lot more attempts. Cumberland at .370. Updating the list for 100 makes (i could be missing a player or two). The list had 6 players on it already.
Williams .401
Burton .394
Jenifer .389 (if he gets there)
Durden .385
Logan .378
Evans .377
Cumberland .370
Van Exel .358
Wright .349
Levet .348
SK was at .347
Vaughn .343
Update...I think it's total wins and not regular season wins. My bad
Cumberland, Scott and Brooks have 80 wins to their name. If we were to finish this season and next with 25 wins each...that would tie them with Logan at 111 wins. Followed by Jenifer at 108 and Clark at 106 and then Caupain and Johnson at 102. If my calculations and sources are correct.
Cumberland, Scott and Brooks have 80 wins to their name. If we were to finish this season and next with 25 wins each...that would tie them with Logan at 111 wins. Followed by Jenifer at 108 and Clark at 106 and then Caupain and Johnson at 102. If my calculations and sources are correct.
Not to be negative Nancy, but 8 of the last 9 games have been one possession games at some point (or worse, we were tied/ losing) with 5/6 minutes or less to go. Somehow 7-1 in those 8 games.
That's not sustainable. Just moved up to #89 in kpom luck this year too. Would obv like to start blowing some teams out, but who cares. We're 20-3 in a rebuilding year.
That's not sustainable. Just moved up to #89 in kpom luck this year too. Would obv like to start blowing some teams out, but who cares. We're 20-3 in a rebuilding year.
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Not to be negative Nancy, but 8 of the last 9 games have been one possession games at some point (or worse, we were tied/ losing) with 5/6 minutes or less to go. Somehow 7-1 in those 8 games.
That's not sustainable. Just moved up to #89 in kpom luck this year too. Would obv like to start blowing some teams out, but who cares. We're 20-3 in a rebuilding year.
im down for a really lucky year where everything just goes our way and we make a deep run.
Was looking at the archived record book on GoBearcats. For some reason the archives only go back to 2006. Cronin started in 2007...LOL! I don't know why they don't have an updated record book. If someone knows where to find one I would love to see it. However, near as I can tell (may be mistakes)
One the career points list 1000 club (if updated as I see it)...
SK would be #2 (2145)
Vaughn #4 (1885)
Gates #13 (1485)
Clark #14 (1462)
Caupain #22 (1317)
Wright #22 (tied) (1317)
Dixon #26 (1281)
Evans #30 (1233)
Cumberland (1117 TBD)
A couple of side notes. I think the current bunch of 4 year guys have a very good chance to finish with the most wins all time (regular season). It shows Logan at 111 and then Gregor at 100 (although I think 2nd place has been achieved). Jenifer has 102 right now. But Cumberland, Scott and Brooks can go even higher as Jenifer had 22 wins his frosh year and the others started with 30 and 31. I think Caupain and Johnson had a crack at 102 wins and Clark 106.
Believe it or not Jenifer's career 3 average is .389. With 100 makes to qualify (now at 93 makes) if he stayed at that average would end up 3rd on the career % list. Although the others had a lot more attempts. Cumberland at .370. Updating the list for 100 makes (i could be missing a player or two). The list had 6 players on it already.
Williams .401
Burton .394
Jenifer .389 (if he gets there)
Durden .385
Logan .378
Evans .377
Cumberland .370
Van Exel .358
Wright .349
Levet .348
SK was at .347
Vaughn .343
In a game where Jenifer went 4 of 9 from deep his avg on the year went down (tough break) but his career avg went up to .391. He is at 97 makes now and a lock for the 100 to qualify. Can he catch Burton for career avg? My guess is no but damn he's trying...lol!
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You left out one of the best ever...Roger McClendon. He was 135/325 for .409 & he had only two years, as his first 2 years there was no 3 pt shot. in those first 2 years, he shot over 50% from the field. had he had 4 years of 3 pt shooting, who knows?Was looking at the archived record book on GoBearcats. For some reason the archives only go back to 2006. Cronin started in 2007...LOL! I don't know why they don't have an updated record book. If someone knows where to find one I would love to see it. However, near as I can tell (may be mistakes)
One the career points list 1000 club (if updated as I see it)...
SK would be #2 (2145)
Vaughn #4 (1885)
Gates #13 (1485)
Clark #14 (1462)
Caupain #22 (1317)
Wright #22 (tied) (1317)
Dixon #26 (1281)
Evans #30 (1233)
Cumberland (1117 TBD)
A couple of side notes. I think the current bunch of 4 year guys have a very good chance to finish with the most wins all time (regular season). It shows Logan at 111 and then Gregor at 100 (although I think 2nd place has been achieved). Jenifer has 102 right now. But Cumberland, Scott and Brooks can go even higher as Jenifer had 22 wins his frosh year and the others started with 30 and 31. I think Caupain and Johnson had a crack at 102 wins and Clark 106.
Believe it or not Jenifer's career 3 average is .389. With 100 makes to qualify (now at 93 makes) if he stayed at that average would end up 3rd on the career % list. Although the others had a lot more attempts. Cumberland at .370. Updating the list for 100 makes (i could be missing a player or two). The list had 6 players on it already.
Williams .401
Burton .394
Jenifer .389 (if he gets there)
Durden .385
Logan .378
Evans .377
Cumberland .370
Van Exel .358
Wright .349
Levet .348
SK was at .347
Vaughn .343
sirthought
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Great information guys! I love it all.
AZ BEARCAT
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We dropped out of the top 25. We were passed by Maryland (won @Nebraska) and Kansas St (beat Kansas and @Baylor).
at least #26 in both. Get back in next week if we take care of business.
In the last 8 games Scott has pulled down 3 rebounds or less 3 times. He's blocked 2 shots over the same stretch. Averaging around 32 minutes.
Brooks is averaging around 22 minutes over the same stretch. He's pulled down around 1 more board per game in 10 less minutes. He's blocked 12 shots. They are both around 8 ppg over the same stretch.
If you gave Brooks the same amount of minutes as Scott. Brooks would be closer to 17 blocks, 11 ppg, and 10 rpg. Compared to Scott at 2 blocks, 8 ppg, and 6 rpg.
Scott needs to bring more intensity and consistency. We need to keep Brooks out of foul trouble.
Brooks is averaging around 22 minutes over the same stretch. He's pulled down around 1 more board per game in 10 less minutes. He's blocked 12 shots. They are both around 8 ppg over the same stretch.
If you gave Brooks the same amount of minutes as Scott. Brooks would be closer to 17 blocks, 11 ppg, and 10 rpg. Compared to Scott at 2 blocks, 8 ppg, and 6 rpg.
Scott needs to bring more intensity and consistency. We need to keep Brooks out of foul trouble.
In the last 8 games Scott has pulled down 3 rebounds or less 3 times. He's blocked 2 shots over the same stretch. Averaging around 32 minutes.
Brooks is averaging around 22 minutes over the same stretch. He's pulled down around 1 more board per game in 10 less minutes. He's blocked 12 shots. They are both around 8 ppg over the same stretch.
If you gave Brooks the same amount of minutes as Scott. Brooks would be closer to 17 blocks, 11 ppg, and 10 rpg. Compared to Scott at 2 blocks, 8 ppg, and 6 rpg.
Scott needs to bring more intensity and consistency. We need to keep Brooks out of foul trouble.
In conference Scott has 2 total blocks. Who's ahead of him or tied with him?
Brooks...19
Williams...10
Nsoseme...9
Johnson...3
Diara...3
Cumberland...2
And Cane Broome is only 1 behind...LOL!
Patrick Bateman
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In the last 8 games Scott has pulled down 3 rebounds or less 3 times. He's blocked 2 shots over the same stretch. Averaging around 32 minutes.
Brooks is averaging around 22 minutes over the same stretch. He's pulled down around 1 more board per game in 10 less minutes. He's blocked 12 shots. They are both around 8 ppg over the same stretch.
If you gave Brooks the same amount of minutes as Scott. Brooks would be closer to 17 blocks, 11 ppg, and 10 rpg. Compared to Scott at 2 blocks, 8 ppg, and 6 rpg.
Scott needs to bring more intensity and consistency. We need to keep Brooks out of foul trouble.
The issue is that you can't give Brooks more minutes most games due to foul trouble. I believe Scott is capable of better play, especially considering he is in his 4th year in the program.