NCAA Tournament Scouting. Team Breakdowns

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OT: NCAA Tournament Scouting. Team Breakdowns

On selection Sunday, after the bracket announcements, teams immediately begin scouting the other 3 teams they could play that given weekend. I think it would be fun and insightful for us all to try and pick a few teams that we have seen ( or haven't seen yet but can rewatch old games online in the ESPN3 archive) and put our thoughts on those teams in this thread.

No flaming, no debating the merits of other's observations ( maybe they saw a game you didn't and noticed something else.)

This thread will be as awesome as those of us in the community can make it. Reports can be as detailed as you like, but imagine you are the coach assigned to breaking down team Z and this would be the report you would give to the coach.

Put all the useful stuff you find in here. Here's a link to the one I did before the Mizz/UC rd 1 game as a general idea of things to put http://www.bearcattalk.com/showthread.php?t=4135

I will try to pick a new team to watch tonight and breakdown on here.

Let's make this the best source of information for bearcat fans to get on tournament teams.
 
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To help, here is a segment of teams UC could see in the first round and second round

First Round (projected 12 to 15 seeds):
Harvard (Ivy)*
North Dakota State (Summit League)
Iona (MAAC)
Delaware (CAA)
Georgia State (Sun Belt)
Mercer (A-Sun)*
Eastern Kentucky (OVC)*
Vermont (AEast)
UC-Irvine (Big West)
NC Central (Mid-East)

*- already clinched NCAA birth

Second Round (projected lower 3 to 6 seeds)
Creighton
Iowa State
San Diego State
Michigan State
Louisville
North Carolina
Oklahoma
UCLA
Saint Louis
Connecticut
Texas
Ohio State
New Mexico
UMass

That might be a good group to try to watch during this conference tournament week. Out of that group I know I haven't seen much of SDSU, UCLA, UMass or Texas this season.
 
To help, here is a segment of teams UC could see in the first round and second round

First Round (projected 12 to 15 seeds):
Harvard (Ivy)*
North Dakota State (Summit League)
Iona (MAAC)
Delaware (CAA)
Georgia State (Sun Belt)
Mercer (A-Sun)*
Eastern Kentucky (OVC)*
Vermont (AEast)
UC-Irvine (Big West)
NC Central (Mid-East)

*- already clinched NCAA birth

Second Round (projected lower 3 to 6 seeds)
Creighton
Iowa State
San Diego State
Michigan State
Louisville
North Carolina
Oklahoma
UCLA
Saint Louis
Connecticut
Texas
Ohio State
New Mexico
UMass

That might be a good group to try to watch during this conference tournament week. Out of that group I know I haven't seen much of SDSU, UCLA, UMass or Texas this season.

I don't believe we can play Louisville or UConn the first weekend unless our league had more than 8 teams in the field.
 
I don't believe we can play Louisville or UConn the first weekend unless our league had more than 8 teams in the field.

I really hope we don't have to play New Mexico again, they are so big and I think it is a matchup nightmare for us.
 
That might be a good group to try to watch during this conference tournament week. Out of that group I know I haven't seen much of SDSU, UCLA, UMass or Texas this season.

San Diego State is very much like us, in that they can struggle to score but are great defensively. I watched them beat New Mexico last night to win the Mountain West conference. They were down big and come back to win 51-48.

Xavier Thames is a do-it-all, All-American candidate just like SK. He's also a 5th year guy that transferred from Washington State after his first year. Watching those two trade baskets to keep their college careers alive would be epic.

I'd like avoid them if possible, because they are long and very tall! They basically start Thames and 4 forwards that are 6'7", 6'8", 6'9", and 6'10". SK would have his hands full with this group. This would be one of those first team to 50 type games.

I saw Texas completely destroy Kansas earlier this year. They have some beef in the middle with Holmes and Ridley and they dominate the glass. They don't shoot it very well and can also be prone to turnovers because of their youth in the backcourt. This would be an interesting matchup and one where JJ would have to stay on the court.
 
Oklahoma: Potential Round of 32 opponent

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General #'s observations I made without having seen them play for one second:

The first thing that has to jump out is Oklahoma is really efficient on the offensive end. 1.17 adj Offensive efficiency is a really elite total. They are also very very young with the bulk of their minutes going to fresh and sophomores, but they are led by a senior in Cameron Clark.You also probably noted their average possession length is really short. Coupled with being in the top 20 in adj tempo I figured they must subscribe to the “shoot before you turn it over mantra” that I think more teams should do. As a team they shoot a high % from 3 and take a decent chunk of their shots from 3 as well. Typically this would mean a team can not help off the shooters against dribble drives. They also must run the shooters off the line and most importantly force them to take long 2's if possible.

Their team defensive #'s are not terrible, but by no means is this a great defensive team. 1 ppp is not anything a high level defensive team should work to achieve. They do not force a ton of turnovers, and are decidedly average in comparison to the national average with regards to rebounding (which means against top level teams they probably struggle mightily with rebounding and defense.)

Shooters everywhere. Everywhere shooters. All day shooters everywhere.
3pt%
Hield 40% on a very high # of attempts
Clark 44%
Cousins 39%
Woodard 36%

This means the starting lineup can really shoot the 3 and stretch the D because they start 4 guys with range above, and then one banger in Spangler down low and have 2 other role players off the bench in
Neal at 42%
Booker 37%


General Eye Observations: Games viewed (Just 1. West Va @ Oklahoma)


Basic Offense:
Mostly a 4 out 1 in offense with guys spaced around the 3 point line and Spangler roaming the paint and short corners.
Like every team in this day and age, PnR and lots of it. From top of the key and side. Also end of shot clock will bring Spangler or Clark for ball screens.
High PnR out of horns set.
Quick outlets off misses AND after made baskets.. Transition D MANADATORY!
Pushes the ball at any opportunity. Doesn't always even use outlets, some bigs will rebound and go coast to coast like I'm sure some of you remember the Lance Stephenson Runaway train on a long rebound!
Side PnR is their best offense with a shooter in the opposite corner and opposite wing, and is virtually unguardable when they are shooting well. If I knew how to stop it, I wouldn't be typing here, I'd be coaching somewhere.

VS Zone Defense:
Spangler works the short corner on the ball side with 4 around perimeter:
End of Shot clock: Spangler High PnR driver finds shooter in corner. CAN NOT LEAVE SHOOTERS IN CORNER VS DRIVES.
Playing zone vs this team is insane other than to mix up Defenses. Idk what W va was thinking, but Huggs is pretty elite at scouting so maybe Oklahoma's man2man offense is even scarier.

After watching more, I think he was just trying something different for a few possessions as they went back to man. Not a bad idea to try and switch things up every now and then, but if Syracuse gets matched up with this team then LOLOLOL I know which team I am putting money on.

PLAYERS:

Spangler: BIG
Very Active on the offensive glass. Big body and physical. Likes to pass off of offensive rebds to shooters and can finish through contact. Their only real physical player though. I think as a team they are a little soft.

Woodard:
Pg. Very quick, attacks off the bounce both directions. When playing at his best, he is getting in the paint and finding shooters. Can get out of control.
Must contain in PnR and be careful if the Big hedges hard/blitzes the high PnR because he will draw fouls in this spot consistently.


Hield can explode/get hot in a second to the point it doesn't matter how you contest. It's going in. Can take questionable shots

Clark: Obv a very very good player, BUT can be baited into taking long 2's off the dribble. He'd be so much better if he just would shoot 3's or actually attack further to get to the paint instead of the 19 foot jumper off the dribble with a hand in his face. I'm pretty sure that explains his relatively poor 2pt FG% for a guy with his shooting and finishing ability.

Hornbeak:
Questionable Shot selection
Settles for 3's in PnR early in shot clock off the dribble on wing. Despite atrocious 3pt%. Go under all PnR's vs him:
Must stay off. Very quick and attacks with shoulder low and very tight to the screener. Very good when getting into the pain, Have to make him a jump shooter and contain the drive.

Cousins:
Good shooter, but seemed quiet in the game I watched.

This team has elite spacing. Like hypermegaelite spacing. Their guys understand how to fill lanes in transition (out wide and either fill to the corner or cut hard to basket). Really, what makes their spacing good their shooting ability, because it doesn't matter how well you space if no one can punish the opponent for helping. If they get hot, watch out. They kinda remind me of Creighton.

General Defense:
Man 2 Man half court. Rarely switched
Fronts the post
Not a ton of ball pressure. Picks up at the 3 point line.

As a team they do not contest shooters well enough. Lots of hand down, man down lazy defense.
Closeouts are laughable and their transition D is questionable.
 
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Oklahoma: Potential Round of 32 opponent

2ntbbso.jpg


qpkjk1.jpg


General #'s observations I made without having seen them play for one second:

The first thing that has to jump out is Oklahoma is really efficient on the offensive end. 1.17 adj Offensive efficiency is a really elite total. They are also very very young with the bulk of their minutes going to fresh and sophomores, but they are led by a senior in Cameron Clark.You also probably noted their average possession length is really short. Coupled with being in the top 20 in adj tempo I figured they must subscribe to the “shoot before you turn it over mantra” that I think more teams should do. As a team they shoot a high % from 3 and take a decent chunk of their shots from 3 as well. Typically this would mean a team can not help off the shooters against dribble drives. They also must run the shooters off the line and most importantly force them to take long 2's if possible.

Their team defensive #'s are not terrible, but by no means is this a great defensive team. 1 ppp is not anything a high level defensive team should work to achieve. They do not force a ton of turnovers, and are decidedly average in comparison to the national average with regards to rebounding (which means against top level teams they probably struggle mightily with rebounding and defense.)

Shooters everywhere. Everywhere shooters. All day shooters everywhere.
3pt%
Hield 40% on a very high # of attempts
Clark 44%
Cousins 39%
Woodard 36%

This means the starting lineup can really shoot the 3 and stretch the D because they start 4 guys with range above, and then one banger in Spangler down low and have 2 other role players off the bench in
Neal at 42%
Booker 37%


General Eye Observations: Games viewed (Just 1. West Va @ Oklahoma)


Basic Offense:
Mostly a 4 out 1 in offense with guys spaced around the 3 point line and Spangler roaming the paint and short corners.
Like every team in this day and age, PnR and lots of it. From top of the key and side. Also end of shot clock will bring Spangler or Clark for ball screens.
High PnR out of horns set.
Quick outlets off misses AND after made baskets.. Transition D MANADATORY!
Pushes the ball at any opportunity. Doesn't always even use outlets, some bigs will rebound and go coast to coast like I'm sure some of you remember the Lance Stephenson Runaway train on a long rebound!
Side PnR is their best offense with a shooter in the opposite corner and opposite wing, and is virtually unguardable when they are shooting well. If I knew how to stop it, I wouldn't be typing here, I'd be coaching somewhere.

VS Zone Defense:
Spangler works the short corner on the ball side with 4 around perimeter:
End of Shot clock: Spangler High PnR driver finds shooter in corner. CAN NOT LEAVE SHOOTERS IN CORNER VS DRIVES.
Playing zone vs this team is insane other than to mix up Defenses. Idk what W va was thinking, but Huggs is pretty elite at scouting so maybe Oklahoma's man2man offense is even scarier.

After watching more, I think he was just trying something different for a few possessions as they went back to man. Not a bad idea to try and switch things up every now and then, but if Syracuse gets matched up with this team then LOLOLOL I know which team I am putting money on.

PLAYERS:

Spangler: BIG
Very Active on the offensive glass. Big body and physical. Likes to pass off of offensive rebds to shooters and can finish through contact. Their only real physical player though. I think as a team they are a little soft.

Woodard:
Pg. Very quick, attacks off the bounce both directions. When playing at his best, he is getting in the paint and finding shooters. Can get out of control.
Must contain in PnR and be careful if the Big hedges hard/blitzes the high PnR because he will draw fouls in this spot consistently.


Hield can explode/get hot in a second to the point it doesn't matter how you contest. It's going in. Can take questionable shots

Clark: Obv a very very good player, BUT can be baited into taking long 2's off the dribble. He'd be so much better if he just would shoot 3's or actually attack further to get to the paint instead of the 19 foot jumper off the dribble with a hand in his face. I'm pretty sure that explains his relatively poor 2pt FG% for a guy with his shooting and finishing ability.

Hornbeak:
Questionable Shot selection
Settles for 3's in PnR early in shot clock off the dribble on wing. Despite atrocious 3pt%. Go under all PnR's vs him:
Must stay off. Very quick and attacks with shoulder low and very tight to the screener. Very good when getting into the pain, Have to make him a jump shooter and contain the drive.

Cousins:
Good shooter, but seemed quiet in the game I watched.

This team has elite spacing. Like hypermegaelite spacing. Their guys understand how to fill lanes in transition (out wide and either fill to the corner or cut hard to basket). Really, what makes their spacing good their shooting ability, because it doesn't matter how well you space if no one can punish the opponent for helping. If they get hot, watch out. They kinda remind me of Creighton.

General Defense:
Man 2 Man half court. Rarely switched
Fronts the post
Not a ton of ball pressure. Picks up at the 3 point line.

As a team they do not contest shooters well enough. Lots of hand down, man down lazy defense.
Closeouts are laughable and their transition D is questionable.
I live in oklahoma and I would compare them to memphis but a little better offensively but not a very good defensive team
 
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