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[Scheids21]

This is for people that will NOT respond to Ralph or Mick.

 

[User Name:]

This is for people that will NOT respond to Ralph or Mick.

Lets hope people actually stick to this rule(I know I was guilty in the last one too). I promise not to entertain their babble.

"BIG TEN TO ADD MORE CONFERENCE GAMES; IS THIS ANOTHER LURE FOR UVA, GT, UNC AND DUKE?"


http://www.mrsec.com/2013/02/big-te...is-this-another-lure-for-uva-gt-unc-and-duke/

 

[BearcatMick]

This is for people that will NOT respond to Ralph or Mick.

I've done nothing wrong. I've contributed to the thread. It's Ralph who has been egging people on

 

[RedlegZdid]

Does anyone know when the Maryland case will be resolved? I read (on a message board) yesterday that it will be 2/21, and that seems too soon.

 

[ralph1950]

Does anyone know when the Maryland case will be resolved? I read (on a message board) yesterday that it will be 2/21, and that seems too soon.

It does not matter when Maryland's case or fee is determined as all of the ACC schools are committed to the ACC and will be staying put.

The ACC Presidents have issued the following statement and their is no evidence anywhere that contradicts what the Presidents of the ACC have stated:


"We, the undersigned presidents of the Atlantic Coast Conference, wish to express our commitment to preserve and protect the future of our outstanding league, the statement read. "We want to be clear that the speculation about ACC schools in negotiations or considering alternatives to the ACC are totally false.

"The presidents of the ACC are united in our commitment to a strong and enduring conference. The ACC has long been a leader in intercollegiate athletics, both academically and athletically, and the constitution of our existing and future member schools will maintain the ACC's position as one of the nation's premier conferences."

The statement was signed by the 15 current and future members of the ACC -- Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Louisville and Notre Dame included -- and did not include Maryland president Wallace Loh.

 

[RedlegZdid]

It does matter. You are naive to believe that statement, and even if the ACC stays together, expansion will still happen.

 

[ucdave]

Unfortunately for the ACC, that statement is rather meaningless unless ALL of the ACC schools sign a Grant of Rights, similar to what the Big 12 did. But most ACC schools refused to sign. Seems to me, they aren't as committed as they proclaim in this statement.

 

[JasonS]

I would imagine the Maryland case will be resolved before the NCAA Tourney. I remember hearing that several months back and that once that is done, the dominoes will begin to fall again.

 

[Scheids21]

I would imagine the Maryland case will be resolved before the NCAA Tourney. I remember hearing that several months back and that once that is done, the dominoes will begin to fall again.

That would be nice. I really haven't heard anything about it recently. That should be the first domino.

 

[ralph1950]

It does matter. You are naive to believe that statement, and even if the ACC stays together, expansion will still happen.

Yes, Tulsa is going to join the Big East. Other than that nothing is going to happen in regard to expansion because without ACC schools being involved the Big 10, SEC, and Big 12 have no one to expand with.

 

[RedlegZdid]

The Grant of Rights, as the Big 12 has it anyways, does not preclude a Big 12 team from leaving.

 

[BearcatMick]

The Grant of Rights, as the Big 12 has it anyways, does not preclude a Big 12 team from leaving.

If a big12 team leaves, they lose all their tv rights for the remainder of the contract and they have to pay a fee

No b12 team can afford to leave with the exception of Texas and Oklahoma

 

[JasonS]

If a big12 team leaves, they lose all their tv rights for the remainder of the contract and they have to pay a fee

No b12 team can afford to leave with the exception of Texas and Oklahoma

This is true and ironically I think this was done to keep Texas in the Big 12. They are the one that could leave without batting an eye should a better situation arise.

 

[RedlegZdid]

Yeah and if Texas (whose athletic dept. Made almost $200 million alone last year) were to leave, other schools would have a strong case to leave without being penalized.

 

[User Name:]

Still think the ACC is stable?

Just being a part of the ACC championship game cost FSU half a million bucks: http://floridastate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1472519 …

Florida State took the trophy home from the 2012 ACC championship game in December.

It also brought back debt.

According to the school's income statement from the game, obtained by Warchant.com via public records request, Florida State lost more than $478,000 from its participation in the ACC championship in Charlotte, N.C., on Dec. 1.

About $440,000 of FSU's loss stems from dismal ticket sales for its matchup against 6-6 Georgia Tech. The league announced that 64,778 tickets were distributed, but Bank of America Stadium never reached half-capacity during FSU's 21-15 win. It was the first time in the game's three years in Charlotte that it wasn't labeled a sellout.


Associated Press
Florida State's income statement from the 2012 ACC championship game shows it lost $478,954.20 from its appearance.

Each season, the conference gives each division winner 10,000 tickets to sell at four different price points ranging from $40 to $150. According to FSU's ticket reconciliation form, Florida State sold just 2,033 tickets, totaling $185,210 in revenue.

Staying in the ACC is a financial disaster for the FSU program, university and its fanbase.

 

[ralph1950]

Still think the ACC is stable?

Just being a part of the ACC championship game cost FSU half a million bucks: http://floridastate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1472519 …



Staying in the ACC is a financial disaster for the FSU program, university and its fanbase.

They lost money because their fans did not buy the tickets and travel to Charlotte. They would have lost more money if they had to travel to Dallas for a Big 12 Championship game or Indianapolis for a Big 10 Championship game. Therefore, they are making money by staying in the ACC vs the Big 12 or Big 10 because in those conferences they would have lost more money.

 

[JumpinJack5]

Still think the ACC is stable?

Just being a part of the ACC championship game cost FSU half a million bucks: http://floridastate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1472519 …



Staying in the ACC is a financial disaster for the FSU program, university and its fanbase.

Losing money in college sports is nothing new, many schools lose money by going to bowl games. It has nothing to do with stability....

 

[User Name:]

Almost official. When the C7 forms their own league, Depaul will be making more TV revenue than us

Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN

ESPN on clock to keep Big East rights; NBC offers $20M-$23M year for 7 years; $2M per team/year http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8953431/espn-week-meet-nbc-big-east-offer-sources-say …

The Big East's new $2 million per team deal is less than what the seven departing Catholic schools -- DePaul, Georgetown, Marquette, Providence, St. John's, Seton Hall and Villanova -- are projected to earn when they form their own league, sources told ESPN. Fox Sports is closing on a deal with the Catholic schools worth about $3 million for each, sources said.

The new league, yet to be formed, is expected to have 12-to-14 members. The most likely candidates to join the Catholic schools, sources have told ESPN, are Butler, Xavier, Creighton, Dayton, Saint Louis, Richmond and VCU.

 

[User Name:]

Losing money in college sports is nothing new, many schools lose money by going to bowl games. It has nothing to do with stability....

Many schools are not Florida State.


A perennial top 25 historic program in FSU has seen a dramatic loss in revenue and football power ever since joining the ACC...Now they can't even sell out their allotted ticket amounts to Conference championship games. The status quo simply is not working for them nor has it been the last 5 years.

 

[RedlegZdid]

I am rooting for NBC in this one. If they win the rights to the big east, I can see ESPN telling the other conferences to take UC, UCONN, USF, etc. to further weaken their biggest competitors (NBC) premier league.