Pitt

[bearcat jeff]

His shot selection is terrible and he should be going to the rim more. If he'd do those 2 things he'd be fine.

 

[david aka the TYZ]

Great win by the Cats. Team is struggling right now and getting a win on the road is huge, especially verse a good conference opponent. Can't wait until this team takes it up a notch like I think they will. Until then keep grinding out wins and let's countdown till March.

 

[ready2go]

His shot selection is terrible and he should be going to the rim more. If he'd do those 2 things he'd be fine.

Completely agree.

You dont work on your shot in games (one as bad as his). You take time before and after practice to develop it. His shot has LOTS of developing to do. He can help this team NOW by using his athleticism and getting to the rim or cleaning up offensive put backs/ rebounds.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Completely agree.

You dont work on your shot in games (one as bad as his). You take time before and after practice to develop it. His shot has LOTS of developing to do. He can help this team NOW by using his athleticism and getting to the rim or cleaning up offensive put backs/ rebounds.

His main contribution is providing a mismatch that the Cats can exploit when the 3 amigos are being squezzed. I agree he needs to slash to the hoop and feed the bigs and the wings. He has one of the best pump fakes in the league. He handles the rock as well as SK against bigger slower people. It will be rendered ineffective with out the fear of a perimeter shot.When he plays well the game is much easier for the wings. That is something Jackson will never give them. Every broadcast I've listened to has said, he works hard and hits that shot in proctice. If he doesn't shoot it in the context of what is happening in the game it will not be good for the team. To this point his shot selection has not been bad he just hasn't made many. There is a difference.If teams are allowed to play off him or Jackson with how little offense we get from the bigs it will not help us. They already can cheat off Modj and David. When he plays well we are a force. When the 4 spot doesn't play well we struggle offensively. His shot will get better. He needs to take it when its there and not force it.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

His shot selection is terrible and he should be going to the rim more. If he'd do those 2 things he'd be fine.

His shot selection is not terrible. If you played any ball at all you have to know that without the fear of a perimeter shot it is very difficult to drive to the rim. Guys play way off and you can't get by them. He is going to be the difference in the season for the Cats. If he gives them another option we have the chance to go very far in NCAA. If we're forced to rely solely on the 3 amigos we won't be as dangeroous of a team. He changed the complexion of the Oregon game and Pitt. His atheletism is as good as anyone on the team. Mick knows this and it is why he lets him shoot. If he could control his fouls he would be on the floor more minutes. He is not a complementary player on this team if you want them to make a deep run it the NCAA. he D's and boards and has the ability to break his defender down off the dribble.Something SK struggles with. His shot selection has not hurt this team at all. They are 13-1. If he finds his stroke and all indications are at practice he has it. We will be very tough to defend.

 

[david aka the TYZ]

I think alot of it boils down to being calm and confident with the shot. I think it's just in his head that he hasn't made one. I remember Parker and Davis being good in practice and couldn't do anything in the games in past years. Its a fine line for a coach. If you stifle his shooting then he won't progress but if you keep letting him throw up bricks then it hurts the team. His mechanics are a little funky, but sometimes the way you learn to shoot is the best way you are going to shoot. I honestly think with Rubles he just needs to hit a few and then he'll be fine. He seems like a gamer to me, so I think he just needs to get the monkey off his back. Hopefully soon he has a breakout game where he hits a couple and then we don't worry about it anymore.

 

[UCalum08]

Good points david! I was listening to Terry Nelson talk about JJ and Rubles shooting 3's. He stated they work very hard shooting them in practice and specifically JJ comes to the gym with SK before anyone else. He also mentioned they need to shoot them in games because their game as players need to evolve into multiple threats in scoring. If they find their shot just think, defenders would have to be more honest and not sag off them, it muddies things down. I'm not saying they need to be shooting 5+ threes a game but I wish the fans would stop gasping etc every time they think about shooting it. That's def not going to solve the problem. Lol

 

[bearcat jeff]

Good points david! I was listening to Terry Nelson talk about JJ and Rubles shooting 3's. He stated they work very hard shooting them in practice and specifically JJ comes to the gym with SK before anyone else. He also mentioned they need to shoot them in games because their game as players need to evolve into multiple threats in scoring. If they find their shot just think, defenders would have to be more honest and not sag off them, it muddies things down. I'm not saying they need to be shooting 5+ threes a game but I wish the fans would stop gasping etc every time they think about shooting it. That's def not going to solve the problem. Lol

Have no problem with them shooting them once in awhile, but Rubles has the ability and tools to be a nightmare going to the basket. With his passing ability he could create so much by doing this more.

 

[ready2go]

Have no problem with them shooting them once in awhile, but Rubles has the ability and tools to be a nightmare going to the basket. With his passing ability he could create so much by doing this more.

Bjeff, I think you and I are the few who realize what he can provide.

For those saying if you dont have the fear of a jump shot you cant do other things is utterly ridiculous. Teams are going to give him that shot ALL day regardless if he hits one or two. However he has the ability few have ALONG with the size to take the ball to the basket. He can be a force alone just by doing that.

He can be the crowd pleaser and get these fans off their ass at the games, cuz our offense puts people to sleep as it is now. Offense sells tickets!!

 

[UCalum08]

Bet you if he is able to actually make a three or some long J's he will be able to get to the rim more easily. Don't give yourself too much credit by saying you are one of the few that realize what he brings. Too bad he won't be able to get to the hoop when the scouting report is out on him to just play off a bit.

 

[bearcat jeff]

His shot selection is not terrible. If you played any ball at all you have to know that without the fear of a perimeter shot it is very difficult to drive to the rim. Guys play way off and you can't get by them. He is going to be the difference in the season for the Cats. If he gives them another option we have the chance to go very far in NCAA. If we're forced to rely solely on the 3 amigos we won't be as dangeroous of a team. He changed the complexion of the Oregon game and Pitt. His atheletism is as good as anyone on the team. Mick knows this and it is why he lets him shoot. If he could control his fouls he would be on the floor more minutes. He is not a complementary player on this team if you want them to make a deep run it the NCAA. he D's and boards and has the ability to break his defender down off the dribble.Something SK struggles with. His shot selection has not hurt this team at all. They are 13-1. If he finds his stroke and all indications are at practice he has it. We will be very tough to defend.

In played organized ball till I was 38. I love his potential to do just what you say but his shot selection is terrible. He could take most anybody that will be guarding him. Layup or dish.

 

[bearcat jeff]

Bet you if he is able to actually make a three or some long J's he will be able to get to the rim more easily. Don't give yourself too much credit by saying you are one of the few that realize what he brings. Too bad he won't be able to get to the hoop when the scouting report is out on him to just play off a bit.

Nobody saying to never shoot the 3 jus not as often. Let's not be silly.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Bjeff, I think you and I are the few who realize what he can provide.

For those saying if you dont have the fear of a jump shot you cant do other things is utterly ridiculous. Teams are going to give him that shot ALL day regardless if he hits one or two. However he has the ability few have ALONG with the size to take the ball to the basket. He can be a force alone just by doing that.

He can be the crowd pleaser and get these fans off their ass at the games, cuz our offense puts people to sleep as it is now. Offense sells tickets!!

its not just what he can do for himself. It is about spreading the floor and creating space for others. When teams have to play him tight the whole team is better off. Rubles can be the whole package. Just needs experience. If mick didn't want him taking jump shots he wouldn't.

 

[ready2go]

its not just what he can do for himself. It is about spreading the floor and creating space for others. When teams have to play him tight the whole team is better off. Rubles can be the whole package. Just needs experience. If mick didn't want him taking jump shots he wouldn't.

Your philosophy makes sense. But thats not his game. He can be more dangerous to others and HELP this team now by having the mentality that Im going to take it to the rim and either dunk, dish or lay in. No one will stop him. His shot may be the worst I have ever seen. Im serious. He can be more of an asset by being the slasher we all know he can be

Now in the offseason he can work on that shot and be more of a double threat, but for now, lets get him doing what he does best and build from there. You take each players strengths and help that build your team

 

[ready2go]

Bet you if he is able to actually make a three or some long J's he will be able to get to the rim more easily. Don't give yourself too much credit by saying you are one of the few that realize what he brings. Too bad he won't be able to get to the hoop when the scouting report is out on him to just play off a bit.

I was crediting whoever said it along with us. By telling him to shoot you are taking away his most valuable asset, and quite frankly he doesnt do it nearly enough....DRIVE TO THE BASKET.

Read my previous post.

And you really think teams are going to come out and guard him if he hits 1 or 2 j's?? Cmon they know that he can hurt them the most by driving. Dont let other teams dictate what your going to do. You do what you do best


No one told Shaq to take jumpers to help extend the defense, and Id say Shaq had a better shot

 

[TheLongHaul]

If you aren't a threat at all to score from the outside your slashing abilities weaken and you become easy to defend. The prime example was Lance. He was the best slasher/scorer UC has seen in decades but because he didn't have an outside shot he was easy to defend...Teams are going to lay off of Rubles which makes it impossible to slash. NM did it and it limited him. Pitt for whatever unknown reason decided to play Rubles tight, which was very stupid of them. If you play Rubles tight he will get by you. Eventually it will show up on the scouting report if it hasn't already.

 

[ready2go]

If you aren't a threat at all to score from the outside your slashing abilities weaken and you become easy to defend. The prime example was Lance. He was the best slasher/scorer UC has seen in decades but because he didn't have an outside shot he was easy to defend...Teams are going to lay off of Rubles which makes it impossible to slash. NM did it and it limited him. Pitt for whatever unknown reason decided to play Rubles tight, which was very stupid of them. If you play Rubles tight he will get by you. Eventually it will show up on the scouting report if it hasn't already.

Exactly, let teams play off of him. Give him that extra room to create off the dribble. When they double down on him then he dishes out to Kila, Cash and Parker. If they dont then there is no reason why he cant take someone 1 on 1 off the dribble to the basket. It makes no sense for him to hoist up a shot from his hip. Thats not his game!

Im not comparing him to LeBron, but NBA teams give LeBron the same treatment. They would rather have him hit that jumper than ram it into the lane and create. Because that is how he is most dangerous

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Exactly, let teams play off of him. Give him that extra room to create off the dribble. When they double down on him then he dishes out to Kila, Cash and Parker. If they dont then there is no reason why he cant take someone 1 on 1 off the dribble to the basket. It makes no sense for him to hoist up a shot from his hip. Thats not his game!

Not exactly it reduces the ability for Cash or any other player to get to the rim for the drive or dish. It is all about spacing. If his man is allowed to play off him and help out on other players that is not a good thing. I agree his shot looks ugly but all who have seen him at practice say he can knock it down. Telling him not to ever shoot a wide open three or any perimter shot is foolish if he is going to play up top in the weave which he does. If he was going to be a yancy type post player fine but in this offense he has to give them a threat from the perimeter or our offense will be reduced to scoring off outside shots,our defense or offensive rebounds. He is a huge key against the better teams.

 

[ready2go]

Not exactly it reduces the ability for Cash or any other player to get to the rim for the drive or dish. It is all about spacing. If his man is allowed to play off him and help out on other players that is not a good thing. I agree his shot looks ugly but all who have seen him at practice say he can knock it down. Telling him not to ever shoot a wide open three or any perimter shot is foolish if he is going to play up top in the weave which he does. If he was going to be a yancy type post player fine but in this offense he has to give them a threat from the perimeter or our offense will be reduced to scoring off outside shots,our defense or offensive rebounds. He is a huge key against the better teams.

If this were the case he should take it to the rim everytime. Hes playing against half a defender. Bottom line, we have our shooters and we have our slashers. Kila is both. Cash cannot drive the ball to the basket and we need someone other than Kila to do so. That is why we are settling for outside shots right now and struggling to find any flow, not because Rubles isnt jacking up shots

And I never said he shouldnt take any shots. I said he is most valuable to this team by driving and crashing the boards. He doesnt have to hit the outside shot to be able to do that.

By giving him the green light is foolish

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

If this were the case he should take it to the rim everytime. Hes playing against half a defender. Bottom line, we have our shooters and we have our slashers. Kila is both. Cash cannot drive the ball to the basket and we need someone other than Kila to do so. That is why we are settling for outside shots right now and struggling to find any flow, not because Rubles isnt jacking up shots

And I never said he shouldnt take any shots. I said he is most valuable to this team by driving and crashing the boards. He doesnt have to hit the outside shot to be able to do that.

By giving him the green light is foolish

IF HIS MAN IS ALLOWED TO LAY OFF HIM IT WILL NOT BE EASIER TO DRIVE TO THE HOOP FOR ANYONE. THEY WILL HAVE ANOTHER DEFENDER IN THE PAINT.The easiest way to drive past a man is to beat him with your first step when he is guarding you closely not when you have to dribble into traffic to get to him. They aren't just glued to the floor you see. That becomes much more difficult when he is allowed to play off you. Also don't know what games your watching but I've seen Cash go to the hole many times. Also SK finishes well in traffic but he has a suspect handle and has trouble creating his own shot.

We are settling for outside shots because are spacing is terrible and we can't get to the rim because are post players have no offense capabilitiy.the spacing issue is one Mick touched on in his postgame.

Also our coach is far from foolish. He also understands just a tad better than bloggers the capabillities of his personnell and the needs of his team. If he allows Rubles to shot the perimeter shot it must be because he has seen him make it.

Not trying to be smart but have you played much basketball? You mentioned you were a state Champ in some sport but didn't mention the sport. If i was guessing I'd say football.