Pitt

[ready2go]

IF HIS MAN IS ALLOWED TO LAY OFF HIM IT WILL NOT BE EASIER TO DRIVE TO THE HOOP FOR ANYONE. THEY WILL HAVE ANOTHER DEFENDER IN THE PAINT.The easiest way to drive past a man is to beat him with your first step when he is guarding you closely not when you have to dribble into traffic to get to him. They aren't just glued to the floor you see. That becomes much more difficult when he is allowed to play off you. Also don't know what games your watching but I've seen Cash go to the hole many times. Also SK finishes well in traffic but he has a suspect handle and has trouble creating his own shot.

We are settling for outside shots because are spacing is terrible and we can't get to the rim because are post players have no offense capabilitiy.the spacing issue is one Mick touched on in his postgame.

Also our coach is far from foolish. He also understands just a tad better than bloggers the capabillities of his personnell and the needs of his team. If he allows Rubles to shot the perimeter shot it must be because he has seen him make it.

Not trying to be smart but have you played much basketball? You mentioned you were a state Champ in some sport but didn't mention the sport. If i was guessing I'd say football.

State? I said National Champ. haha but come on please

Spacing isn the issue. The issue is 4 guys stand outside the 3 and 1 guy stands near the basket. No one does anything. Its senseless passing outside the three point line till we shoot a 3 or have kila drive. This Rubles kid is capable of opening up our offense with his ability to drive to the basket. Not his jump shot.

Coaching 101. You play to your players strengths. What can this guy do for me and our team. He cannot shoot and he has been taking shots. What has that done for him? He doesnt understand the game enough to take a jumper. He takes one when we need him to drive. Hell take one coming off one pass. Hell take one coming off an offensive rebound. Ive seen those

As for my basketball skills and knowledge. I learned from the great Jerry Doerger I was like Mike, unstoppable. The flex. Talk about moving and passing with a purpose??? I understand fully the game and I also understand how you utalize your talent.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

State? I said National Champ. haha but come on please

Spacing isn the issue. The issue is 4 guys stand outside the 3 and 1 guy stands near the basket. No one does anything. Its senseless passing outside the three point line till we shoot a 3 or have kila drive. This Rubles kid is capable of opening up our offense with his ability to drive to the basket. Not his jump shot.

Coaching 101. You play to your players strengths. What can this guy do for me and our team. He cannot shoot and he has been taking shots. What has that done for him? He doesnt understand the game enough to take a jumper. He takes one when we need him to drive. Hell take one coming off one pass. Hell take one coming off an offensive rebound. Ive seen those

As for my basketball skills and knowledge. I learned from the great Jerry Doerger I was like Mike, unstoppable. The flex. Talk about moving and passing with a purpose??? I understand fully the game and I also understand how you utalize your talent.

Ha Ha. You should stick to football.Did he teach you about basketball before his suspension or after?

Coaching 101 take what the defense gives you. You may want to go look at bearcatnews. Excellent post up about how effective are big men are. Rubles has been huge for this team.

and spacing is the issue. Really can't understand how you can talk about playing to the strengths of your players and not understand the offense. You may need a little basketball 101. maybe we can meet for a game sometime and I'll enlighten you. LOL

 

[ready2go]

Ha Ha. You should stick to football.Did he teach you about basketball before his suspension or after?

Coaching 101 take what the defense gives you. You may want to go look at bearcatnews. Excellent post up about how effective are big men are. Rubles has been huge for this team.

and spacing is the issue. Really can't understand how you can talk about playing to the strengths of your players and not understand the offense. You may need a little basketball 101. maybe we can meet for a game sometime and I'll enlighten you. LOL

Youre buying. Bring your pen and pad

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Youre buying. Bring your pen and pad

LOL!!! I'm thinking Dutch. You can pick out the game.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

State? I said National Champ. haha but come on please

Spacing isn the issue. The issue is 4 guys stand outside the 3 and 1 guy stands near the basket. No one does anything. Its senseless passing outside the three point line till we shoot a 3 or have kila drive. This Rubles kid is capable of opening up our offense with his ability to drive to the basket. Not his jump shot.

Coaching 101. You play to your players strengths. What can this guy do for me and our team. He cannot shoot and he has been taking shots. What has that done for him? He doesnt understand the game enough to take a jumper. He takes one when we need him to drive. Hell take one coming off one pass. Hell take one coming off an offensive rebound. Ive seen those

As for my basketball skills and knowledge. I learned from the great Jerry Doerger I was like Mike, unstoppable. The flex. Talk about moving and passing with a purpose??? I understand fully the game and I also understand how you utalize your talent.

Ready2go, here is the link of the article i referenced

http://network.yardbarker.com/colle...nal/how_the_big_men_get_their_points/12569608

 

[UCalum08]

IF HIS MAN IS ALLOWED TO LAY OFF HIM IT WILL NOT BE EASIER TO DRIVE TO THE HOOP FOR ANYONE. THEY WILL HAVE ANOTHER DEFENDER IN THE PAINT.The easiest way to drive past a man is to beat him with your first step when he is guarding you closely not when you have to dribble into traffic to get to him. They aren't just glued to the floor you see. That becomes much more difficult when he is allowed to play off you. Also don't know what games your watching but I've seen Cash go to the hole many times. Also SK finishes well in traffic but he has a suspect handle and has trouble creating his own shot.

We are settling for outside shots because are spacing is terrible and we can't get to the rim because are post players have no offense capabilitiy.the spacing issue is one Mick touched on in his postgame.

Also our coach is far from foolish. He also understands just a tad better than bloggers the capabillities of his personnell and the needs of his team. If he allows Rubles to shot the perimeter shot it must be because he has seen him make it.

Not trying to be smart but have you played much basketball? You mentioned you were a state Champ in some sport but didn't mention the sport. If i was guessing I'd say football.

Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner Johnny! lol

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner Johnny! lol

I always enjoy popsting on this site. Most of the guys present well thought out opinions and are respectful. You and ready2go are two of my favorites. A couple of young pups.

 

[ready2go]

LOL!!! I'm thinking Dutch. You can pick out the game.

If youre good Ill give you an autograph after the game

Regardless of what we say, agree or disagree on, the offense has to change. IMO Rubles can help that most by driving to the basket.

I guess my issue is Id rather hear Mick say, take it to the rim vs he makes that shot in practice, I encourage it. And its not like he doesnt shoot now, cuz we all know how ugly it looks.

 

[TheLongHaul]

State? I said National Champ. haha but come on please

Spacing isn the issue. The issue is 4 guys stand outside the 3 and 1 guy stands near the basket. No one does anything. Its senseless passing outside the three point line till we shoot a 3 or have kila drive. This Rubles kid is capable of opening up our offense with his ability to drive to the basket. Not his jump shot.

Coaching 101. You play to your players strengths. What can this guy do for me and our team. He cannot shoot and he has been taking shots. What has that done for him? He doesnt understand the game enough to take a jumper. He takes one when we need him to drive. Hell take one coming off one pass. Hell take one coming off an offensive rebound. Ive seen those

As for my basketball skills and knowledge. I learned from the great Jerry Doerger I was like Mike, unstoppable. The flex. Talk about moving and passing with a purpose??? I understand fully the game and I also understand how you utalize your talent.

You seem to be missing the point. Everyone, including the other teams, know Rubles strength is driving to the basket. No one is arguing that. The problem is it becomes easy to defend when you aren't a threat to shoot. Not sure why you don't understand this. New Mexico laid off of him and he was useless out there. Pitt guarded him closely and Rubles took advantage of it.

Personally, I'm okay with him shooting from the outside when he is wide open and it comes from the flow of the offense. Some of his shots have been terrible and some I've been okay with. I wouldn't want him shooting more than 1-2 a game. I'm okay with him shooting mid range jumpers.

As for spacing, if you don't think that's an issue then you haven't been watching them. I don't have enough fingers to count the number of times they have actually ran into each other on offense. They definitely have a spacing issue.

 

[Bearcat22]

Not exactly it reduces the ability for Cash or any other player to get to the rim for the drive or dish. It is all about spacing. If his man is allowed to play off him and help out on other players that is not a good thing. I agree his shot looks ugly but all who have seen him at practice say he can knock it down. Telling him not to ever shoot a wide open three or any perimter shot is foolish if he is going to play up top in the weave which he does. If he was going to be a yancy type post player fine but in this offense he has to give them a threat from the perimeter or our offense will be reduced to scoring off outside shots,our defense or offensive rebounds. He is a huge key against the better teams.

I agree, we can't just live off of rubbles taking the space that he's given by using the dribble and dishing off for a perimeter shot. We need him as a threat getting to the basket, but knocking down some jumpshots will unclog the lane for others to work as well. We also need Mbodj to be able to finish a putback off an offensive rebound.

 

[ready2go]

You seem to be missing the point. Everyone, including the other teams, know Rubles strength is driving to the basket. No one is arguing that. The problem is it becomes easy to defend when you aren't a threat to shoot. Not sure why you don't understand this. New Mexico laid off of him and he was useless out there. Pitt guarded him closely and Rubles took advantage of it.

Personally, I'm okay with him shooting from the outside when he is wide open and it comes from the flow of the offense. Some of his shots have been terrible and some I've been okay with. I wouldn't want him shooting more than 1-2 a game. I'm okay with him shooting mid range jumpers.

As for spacing, if you don't think that's an issue then you haven't been watching them. I don't have enough fingers to count the number of times they have actually ran into each other on offense. They definitely have a spacing issue.

 

[ready2go]

I agree, we can't just live off of rubbles taking the space that he's given by using the dribble and dishing off for a perimeter shot. We need him as a threat getting to the basket, but knocking down some jumpshots will unclog the lane for others to work as well. We also need Mbodj to be able to finish a putback off an offensive rebound.

Not everyone is Michael Jordan.

You cant have it both ways. Im telling you teams are not going to respect that shot. If he shoots it 5 times a game, they are still going to give it to him regardless if he makes it or not. If they want to pack the paint, then drive till they double and dish to the guys who CAN ALREADY SHOOT or oop it to our 8'9 inch guy in the center

LongHaul
The problem is not enough guys running into eachother. We have no ball picks or away from the ball screens. The spacing is perfect. That is all we have right now. 2 guards at the top of the key. 2 guys along the baseline and a guy in the center. The problem is they do NOTHING to get open or to create

 

[Bearcat22]

Not everyone is Michael Jordan.

You cant have it both ways. Im telling you teams are not going to respect that shot. If he shoots it 5 times a game, they are still going to give it to him regardless if he makes it or not. If they want to pack the paint, then drive till they double and dish to the guys who CAN ALREADY SHOOT or oop it to our 8'9 inch guy in the center

LongHaul
The problem is not enough guys running into eachother. We have no ball picks or away from the ball screens. The spacing is perfect. That is all we have right now. 2 guards at the top of the key. 2 guys along the baseline and a guy in the center. The problem is they do NOTHING to get open or to create

I see your point and a lot of my argument is predicated on Rubbles hitting some of those shots. The odds of a successful drive and dish would have to be better against a team that doesn't play off of him (Rubbles) versus packing in the lane. Again, Rubbles needs to prove he can knock down a shot. Maybe this is an instance of when what should be done hypothetically doesn't match what can be done in reality.

 

[TheLongHaul]

Not everyone is Michael Jordan.

You cant have it both ways. Im telling you teams are not going to respect that shot. If he shoots it 5 times a game, they are still going to give it to him regardless if he makes it or not. If they want to pack the paint, then drive till they double and dish to the guys who CAN ALREADY SHOOT or oop it to our 8'9 inch guy in the center

LongHaul
The problem is not enough guys running into eachother. We have no ball picks or away from the ball screens. The spacing is perfect. That is all we have right now. 2 guards at the top of the key. 2 guys along the baseline and a guy in the center. The problem is they do NOTHING to get open or to create

I have my own issues with this offense but if you are going to run it you need spacing and they don't have it. Saying the spacing is perfect is laughable and only tells me you haven't been watching the games. Guys accidentally running into each other should tell you all you need to know.

 

[ready2go]

I have my own issues with this offense but if you are going to run it you need spacing and they don't have it. Saying the spacing is perfect is laughable and only tells me you haven't been watching the games. Guys accidentally running into each other should tell you all you need to know.[/QUOTE]

In the 3 player weave at the top of the key, yes. But that is by design

Spacing is the not the issue as it is movement and screens away from the ball.

 

[ready2go]

I see your point and a lot of my argument is predicated on Rubbles hitting some of those shots. The odds of a successful drive and dish would have to be better against a team that doesn't play off of him (Rubbles) versus packing in the lane. Again, Rubbles needs to prove he can knock down a shot. Maybe this is an instance of when what should be done hypothetically doesn't match what can be done in reality.

Agree

I just look at it this way. He got a scholarship for his athletic ability and certainly not his shot. So lets get what were "paying" him for. He can still take shots but I think he should be drive first. Stop letting the other team dictate what we do

 

[ready2go]

There are so many other ways to get him easier looks at the rim than having him hoist up a shot from his hip.

Why not have him set screens for our TRUE shooters. If they want to pack the paint on Rubbles, then set screens. There is no defensive help for Kila coming off a screen for a wide open shot.

When they come out and guard he still sets screens and works off that. 2 man game with the shooter. Just thoughts

 

[TheLongHaul]

I have my own issues with this offense but if you are going to run it you need spacing and they don't have it. Saying the spacing is perfect is laughable and only tells me you haven't been watching the games. Guys accidentally running into each other should tell you all you need to know.

In the 3 player weave at the top of the key, yes. But that is by design

Spacing is the not the issue as it is movement and screens away from the ball.

Okay I know you aren't watching now. First, they aren't running into each other by design from the weave. That isn't what I'm talking about. There have been many instances where guys are running into each other and they aren't even the ones with the ball. That has nothing to do with a weave.

Second of all, their "weave" doesn't hand the ball off any more like it did last year. If you've watched them this year you'd know that. They pass instead of handing it off. Sure, sometimes after a pass they go and set a ball screen but that is pretty seldom.

 

[TheLongHaul]

Agree

I just look at it this way. He got a scholarship for his athletic ability and certainly not his shot. So lets get what were "paying" him for. He can still take shots but I think he should be drive first. Stop letting the other team dictate what we do

No one on here has said that it should be a shoot first situation. In fact, everyone agrees his game is predicated on driving.

 

[ready2go]

No one on here has said that it should be a shoot first situation. In fact, everyone agrees his game is predicated on driving.

Welcome to this argument. People have said he needs to hit the jumper to allow him to get to the basket easier. I have said that is not the case in this situation.

As for guys running into eachother.....I have yet to see anyone run anywhere on the offensive end. You see when the other team has the ball that is called defense. I see plenty of times where we run into eachother then hustling to pick up a man.

Offensively I see the weave and no other movement what so ever. I have watched plenty. Thank you young man