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In reality John likely changed after his father passed. He hasn’t adjusted to life without him.

He should take a few years old and get his head right. Learn to communicate and build relationships:

There is reason to believe he had issues at NKU. But the death of his father and Covid seem to have exacerbated those issues to the point that they could no longer be ignored.

Maybe John can learn to the communication and relationship building skills that are essential for a HC. Or maybe he's destined to be a great X's and O's assistant coach who is content where he is because he just lacks the personal skills to become a HC.
 
Decoursey also was micks guy. You know that too but decided to leave that part out. I don’t care that he left. He went to UCLA and got a raise. I don’t blame him. That’s a great gig. He can get whatever player he wants. It was also time for both parties. Let’s be honest, he could have stayed if he wanted. He knew bohn wouldn’t be here long.

He also could have won more. Make them have to pay you. Get the fans on your side. The truth is, half the fan base didn’t care if he left after year 12

Yeah cincinnati fans are notoriously idiotic, look what happened after they pushed Marvin Lewis out. Hahahhha grass isn’t always greener
 
All I can say is that if UCLA wasn’t happy with final fours and sweet sixteens they probably won’t be happy with just making the tourney year after year with little mick.

Like I didn’t understand how you can hate a man who did so much for our program. Being happy he is gone is one thing but to trash him, I just don’t get it. It has sour written all over it. Get over yourself. And you were already wrong saying mick would lose the play in game, now he’s in the sweet 16. Just stop already
 
Yeah cincinnati fans are notoriously idiotic, look what happened after they pushed Marvin Lewis out. Hahahhha grass isn’t always greener

Lewis needed to go. Anywhere else he would have been fired a decade earlier. The fact he lasted 16 years without a single playoff win is mind boggling.

Has the person that replaced him improved the team? No. But that doesn't mean it wasn't time to move on. The reason the team is unsuccesful is because of a terrible front office. And that same terrible front office was in charge of hiring a new coach, who in turn is also terrible.

Notice how it's now 3 years later and Marvin Lewis still doesn't have an NFL coaching job? He's co-defensive coordinator for a college football program that's not all that great.

Fans wanting to move on from Marvin Lewis in no way is evidence that Cincinnati fans are idiotic. There's not a single fan base in existance that wouldn't have wanted the same given the situation.
 
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Yeah cincinnati fans are notoriously idiotic, look what happened after they pushed Marvin Lewis out. Hahahhha grass isn’t always greener

Grass isn’t always greener but you take a chance. Mick was given 12 years and got to 1 sweet 16. How many big programs would like that? Having high expectations isn’t a bad thing.

There’s always a chance it doesn’t work out. You know that going in. But trying to improve isn’t a bad thing.

To me, having a decent team and limping in to the tournament every year is worse than trying to improve the situation. If you are a person that liked that, awesome. I thought it was embarrassing. Like I’ve said, we are probably the worst preforming team in the tournament over the last 20 years. Wanting to try something different isn’t terrible. It’s understandable
 
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Rushing to judgement. The investigation started 4-6 weeks ago, it is finished. There are three possibilities.

1) This is a formality, the independent investigation will conclude quickly. Brannen will be fired one Monday/Tuesday with cause. Cunningham did everything correctly and by the book. Ideal result (and the one that I think is most likely).

2) UC has something, but not enough. This is an effort to hamstring Brannen and pressure into negotiating a settlement. Brannen takes a settlement and walks. Seems unlikely based on Chad's reports that Cunningham hasn't talked face-to-face with Brannen. Cunningham's seat should probably be getting hot in this case.

3) UC has nothing (or something, but not enough). This is an effort to hamstring Brannen and pressure into negotiating a settlement. Brannen refuses to take a settlement, UC can't afford 5 million. Brannen coaches here for another year or two under a massive cloud. In this case, Cunningham should be fired.
4) Cunningham's independent investigation turns up corruption within his own administration. A new AD is hired who keeps Brannen. John brings in several top transfers. Chris Vogt returns and leads UC to a national championship in 2022.
 
There is reason to believe he had issues at NKU. But the death of his father and Covid seem to have exacerbated those issues to the point that they could no longer be ignored.

Maybe John can learn to the communication and relationship building skills that are essential for a HC. Or maybe he's destined to be a great X's and O's assistant coach who is content where he is because he just lacks the personal skills to become a HC.

I’m not dissenting but am curious, what issues did
he have at NKU & what is your source ?
 
I’m not dissenting but am curious, what issues did
he have at NKU & what is your source ?

There are a few I've seen, as I've said, I just follow message boards and twitter.

From 247

Personal anecdote: one of my contacts in the industry has close ties to both NKU and X. He has interacted with CJB more than once, and is in "the industry."

When Brannen was hired, my friend told me that Brannen is a "good coach, but he won't have any players or coaches left when he's done."

Somewhere in one of these threads Justin posted a screenshot of a text to a former NKU player who said he left because of Brannen.

I don't even remember what forum it was (247 probably). Somebody with a contact with a NKU player said the guy left because of Brannen and might grad transfer back now that Brannen is gone.

It's also rumored that some of those anonymous parent quotes (especially the one about delivering food) came from NKU parents and not here. There was a whole thread on 247 about Brannen having issues at NKU not long back, but it was VIP and I didn't read it. I'd guess there is more in there.

Again, all just internet rumors and anonymous sources. But in light of everything else, it seems easy to believe.
 
I'm fine with this. Cunningham and the administration spent time investigating the claims of the players regarding culture. Apparently it involved multiple staff as well and possibly some players still on the team. At some point, Cunningham and the admins (and quite possibly even the University president) decided they wanted him gone.

But, creating a toxic culture while bad for the team and the university is not a fireable offense and they didn't have the money to fire Brannen. So they went digging. They found CARA violations, a technicality - a rule that many coaches violate - but it is a technicality that gives cause.

If it wasn't for the toxic culture Brannen created, they wouldn't have looked for the CARA violations. If it wasn't for the violations, they wouldn't have found cause and would have been forced to keep Brannen around a couple more years (and they would have issued a statement of support).

But now they have toxic culture as why they want to fire him and CARA violations as cause. The independent fact finder is dotting the I's and crossing the T's. They know cause will be found, but they have to go through the formal process.

Brannen is gone. Good riddance. In two years he burned the program down and made over half his players and some of his staff hate him. He's a great X's and O's guy, but in coaching relationships matter more and he was a failure at relationship building and maintenance.

Let's get a coach who knows his X's and O's, but who also knows off court relationships matter as much as on court coaching.

You’re hilarious
 
I’m not dissenting but am curious, what issues did
he have at NKU & what is your source ?

Player or two left... I don't think there is any debate. Brannen is likely very hard to play for.

He's extremely detail oriented and wants his guys running sets with perfection.

That's not fireable... And frankly... I think I want a coach to operate in that manner.
 
He knows what he has done, but he doesn't know what UC has found and what they are going to use to justify firing him for cause. He's going to wait and see what they have/plan to use against him before he signs any settlement.

You literally know nothing and just keep making stuff up in your head
 
Should we really be talking about “issues” NKU when we have heard from past UC players that there are always issues? It’s just easier to transfer now. If there are SERIOUS issues then let’s talk but we haven’t really heard anything serious yet. Could there be? Absolutely. But if they are relatively minor I would rather put CJB through sensitivity training etc to let him work on those rather than trash his rep over minor to medium issues.

Still waiting on the big bomb. Hasn’t presented itself yet from any source yet
 
You literally know nothing and just keep making stuff up in your head

This, skyblade has this whole thing going on, and most is things he’s made up, or “someone’s 2nd cousin told someone brother”. And he just keeps building on it.

I honestly think skyblade has one of those conspiracy board things in his house, with yawn connecting the different message board comments. Talking to anyone that will listen
 
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So an assistant coach trashed a player who wanted to transfer.

He didn’t coddle them during covid.

He probably said he thought certain players would get more time than they did.

Maybe he’s very intense about the system

Maybe he puts players against one another to see who can handle the pressure

Maybe he would like to see them dressed well at team functions

Where is the bomb? Too much practice?
 
So an assistant coach trashed a player who wanted to transfer.

He didn’t coddle them during covid.

He probably said he thought certain players would get more time than they did.

Maybe he’s very intense about the system

Maybe he puts players against one another to see who can handle the pressure

Maybe he would like to see them dressed well at team functions

Where is the bomb? Too much practice?

I think chad tweeted something like 74 schools have 5 or more players in the portal. There are slot that have 7+. One team has 15
 
This, skyblade has this whole thing going on, and most is things he’s made up, or “someone’s 2nd cousin told someone brother”. And he just keeps building on it.

I honestly think skyblade has one of those conspiracy board things in his house, with yawn connecting the different message board comments. Talking to anyone that will listen

But one his million theories will be right... then you’ll never hear the end of it
 
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