Very well said. You couldn't find a Cronin Supporter at BW3s last night. I wish I had a dollar for every time I heard, "Cronin needs to go!" after the game. I've heard this for years now except here on Cronintalk....oops I mean Bearcattalk. This site is so far from Bearcat reality. We get mom and apple pie on here. Our fans are totally up in arms about this coach and he must go for this program to move forward. We don't want to hear, "Be careful what you wish for". No, it's, "Be careful what you don't wish for!" This guy has made us irrelevant again. And, it starts and ends with recruiting. It has been pathetic. If you want another direction for this program, here is what you do. Send your feelings to the following email addresses. [email protected]. and. [email protected]. I have sent multiple emails to both and I know well over a hundred other who have done the same. If you sit back and just accept mediocrity, that's what you'll get. That's what we have. The years change, but the story stays the same.
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Very well said. You couldn't find a Cronin Supporter at BW3s last night. I wish I had a dollar for every time I heard, "Cronin needs to go!" after the game. I've heard this for years now except here on Cronintalk....oops I mean Bearcattalk. This site is so far from Bearcat reality. We get mom and apple pie on here. Our fans are totally up in arms about this coach and he must go for this program to move forward. We don't want to hear, "Be careful what you wish for". No, it's, "Be careful what you don't wish for!" This guy has made us irrelevant again. And, it starts and ends with recruiting. It has been pathetic. If you want another direction for this program, here is what you do. Send your feelings to the following email addresses. [email protected]. and. [email protected]. I have sent multiple emails to both and I know well over a hundred other who have done the same. If you sit back and just accept mediocrity, that's what you'll get. That's what we have. The years change, but the story stays the same.
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Very well said. You couldn't find a Cronin Supporter at BW3s last night. I wish I had a dollar for every time I heard, "Cronin needs to go!" after the game. I've heard this for years now except here on Cronintalk....oops I mean Bearcattalk. This site is so far from Bearcat reality. We get mom and apple pie on here. Our fans are totally up in arms about this coach and he must go for this program to move forward. We don't want to hear, "Be careful what you wish for". No, it's, "Be careful what you don't wish for!" This guy has made us irrelevant again. And, it starts and ends with recruiting. It has been pathetic. If you want another direction for this program, here is what you do. Send your feelings to the following email addresses. [email protected]. and. [email protected]. I have sent multiple emails to both and I know well over a hundred other who have done the same. If you sit back and just accept mediocrity, that's what you'll get. That's what we have. The years change, but the story stays the same.
Well duh, the casual UC fan is the dumbest fan on planet earth. No chance in hell we let Cronin go anytime soon.
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I want to preface this statement with the fact that I've been a loyal, unwavering Bearcat fan for 30 plus years. Good, bad, ugly and everything in between.
That being said, I am done with Mick Cronin and this pathetic brand of basketball. This was his most talented team on paper in ten years and I've never witnessed a more inept, clumsy, and brutal season of Bearcats basketball ever. Just so ugly. And it all starts at the top with Mick. I've thrown the guy all my support but I can't support his philosophies anymore. This brand of basketball is like a Soviet era relic ( aka old Big East), essentially Cronin has turned us into a GCL-esque NCAA squad. I don't know if the guy is trying to let his stupid old man live vicariously through him with all this mundane, old-school thought process. I don't get it. And before any little snot nosed Bearcat fans jump on me, Cronin has been on easy street for years. He deserves criticism and a lot of it. He's coaching his alma mater in his own backyard, making 7 figure salary, has all his family at the games, has little resistance from the administration, boosters, fans or media. He even says so himself. Get's to hold court and talk about his daughter and other non basketball matters ad nauseum. He has a lot to answer for this year IMO. His behavior and coaching this year were totally unacceptable for Bearcat basketball. I mean this in all seriousness; I think he needs to be evaluated medically. The guy is out of touch and getting a bit batty. I can't believe our fanbase wasn't in more of an uproar this year. The guy has never won anything meaningful yet walks around and talks to the media like he's a hall of fame coach. Telling the media he doesn't care if they win or lose because he will be back next year so it's all on them?! That infuriated me and just shows you how good he's got it. More demanding programs would have gone to town on a coach for such an arrogant comment. Not us. Then after yet again getting his tail handed to him by Chris Mack and Xavier, the little jerk has the audacity to tell us that the Xavier game doesn't really matter and we have more important things to worry about! That incensed me beyond words. That is so telling of how egotiatical and out of touch he is. Newsflash, us fans care a great deal! He's been totally outcoached, outrecruited and outclassed by Chris Mack and Xavier. That should make you sick. But hey, our coach says it's not a big deal. Another disgusting display by Cronin happened in the 1st SMU game, when there was a little tussle, and then Mick ran onto the floor and was protecting and profusely apologizing to Moore and SMU. I thought, this guy doesn't even have his own players back!! It's all about him. I don't know why anyone would want to play for him now. And that was evident by our bench this year. I saw absolutely zero energy or excitement, passion or coaching coming from this bench. Go watch all these schools still playing in the tournament and watch their coaches and watch their bench. Energy and enthusiam, attitude are huge factors in building a winning culture and we were sorely lacking We had the most lifeless bench and coaching staff I've seen this year. I cannot support this brand of basketball any longer.
Don't let the door hit ya on the way out!
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You'll be back. They always come back.
Of course I will. I'm a glutton for punishment. But this is what real a fanbase does. They hold their coach to a very high standard. Cronin deserves severe scrutiny because he's got it too easy in my book. This fanbase has been lulled into a daze of mediocracy.
Well duh, the casual UC fan is the dumbest fan on planet earth. No chance in hell we let Cronin go anytime soon.
Believe me! I'll say it again. BELIEVE ME! This is not the casual fans saying this. I don't hang with casual fans. I hang with season ticket holders and boosters. These are the serious of the serious fans who are invested in this program. If anyone believes that the serious fans want Cronin back, you're sadly mistaken.
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Believe me! I'll say it again. BELIEVE ME! This is not the casual fans saying this. I don't hang with casual fans. I hang with season ticket holders and boosters. These are the serious of the serious fans who are invested in this program. If anyone believes that the serious fans want Cronin back, you're sadly mistaken.
You'll get a mixed crowd of serious fans on the love/hate Cronin debate. You don't hang out with all of them so you really don't know it all. I know plenty in both crowds, it's an Interesting conversation that's for sure. Will say I think this was the worst job he's done since getting here.
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Cracks me up when people call this a Cronin homer site. Do you people read the posts? Lol. If this is the homer site, what would you call the others? Cronin gets so much sh*t on here it's not even funny.
You'll get a mixed crowd of serious fans on the love/hate Cronin debate. You don't hang out with all of them so you really don't know it all.
You're 100% mistaken. You're amongst your small crowd of Cronin lovers on this forum. If you walk the streets of Cincinnati and randomly ask 100 people if they like Mick Cronin, you won't get a yes response more than 5 times. Only once in Bearcat history had we had a 3 game losing treak to X before Mick got here. Mick has now done it twice by himself, and if he loses next year, he'll become the first ever to lose four in a row. I don't want to give him the chance to reach that accomplishment.
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You're 100% mistaken. You're amongst your small crowd of Cronin lovers on this forum. If you walk the streets of Cincinnati and randomly ask 100 people if they like Mick Cronin, you won't get a yes response more than 5 times. Only once in Bearcat history had we had a 3 game losing treak to X before Mick got here. Mick has now done it twice by himself, and if he loses next year, he'll become the first ever to lose four in a row. I don't want to give him the chance to reach that accomplishment.
Zzzzzzzzz...
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Believe me! I'll say it again. BELIEVE ME! This is not the casual fans saying this. I don't hang with casual fans. I hang with season ticket holders and boosters. These are the serious of the serious fans who are invested in this program. If anyone believes that the serious fans want Cronin back, you're sadly mistaken.
I'm not a huge Cronin fan myself but I'm smart enough to realize that firing a coach that just made 6 straight tournaments gives us a really bad reputation. We need an upgrade on the bench. Maybe Savino or Davis getting a HC spot will open up some opportunities to upgrade the staff (mainly getting a new recruiter). Losing Stubblefield to Oregon was a huge blow.
Cracks me up when people call this a Cronin homer site. Do you people read the posts? Lol. If this is the homer site, what would you call the others? Cronin gets so much sh*t on here it's not even funny.
Jacob, I've always liked you. But, everyone on this site and those who do not post here know this is a Cronin homer site. It's "exactly" the reason why you don't have more of us posting here. I get this comment from fans all the time.
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Zzzzzzzzz...
Worst fan base in the history of sports. If you think that loss last night is on Mick, your delusional. Arguably our best player hobbled on the court. If we had a 100% Clark we win that game. Remember he's our best defender and rebounder.
Worst fan base in the history of sports. If you think that loss last night is on Mick, your delusional. Arguably our best player hobbled on the court. If we had a 100% Clark we win that game. Remember he's our best defender and rebounder.
We lost these kinds of games all year with a perfectly healthy roster. This is excuse making at its best.
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Worst fan base in the history of sports. If you think that loss last night is on Mick, your delusional. Arguably our best player hobbled on the court. If we had a 100% Clark we win that game. Remember he's our best defender and rebounder.
Been saying this for years. I love so many dumb UC fans criticize the players for "having no bball IQ" when the fans are so much worse. Such a stupid fan base that deserves all the torture it receives.
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Jacob, I've always liked you. But, everyone on this site and those who do not post here know this is a Cronin homer site. It's "exactly" the reason why you don't have more of us posting here. I get this comment from fans all the time.
Yeah yeah.
I get frustrated too. I don't think Cronin is perfect. But like NTS said, you don't fire a coach who makes the tournament every season. Why would we risk having some of these guys transfer out? Did you see Evans last night? Dude was a freshman. Clark all year? Dude was a sophomore. I'm very excited to see what a SR PG can do with this kind of supporting cast. I think we're much closer than you think.
I'm not a huge Cronin fan myself but I'm smart enough to realize that firing a coach that just made 6 straight tournaments gives us a really bad reputation. We need an upgrade on the bench. Maybe Savino or Davis getting a HC spot will open up some opportunities to upgrade the staff (mainly getting a new recruiter). Losing Stubblefield to Oregon was a huge blow.
I completely agree about the assistants. But, who hired them? Again, it starts and ends with recruiting and this whole staff has failed miserably.
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Very well said. You couldn't find a Cronin Supporter at BW3s last night. I wish I had a dollar for every time I heard, "Cronin needs to go!" after the game. I've heard this for years now except here on Cronintalk....oops I mean Bearcattalk. This site is so far from Bearcat reality. We get mom and apple pie on here. Our fans are totally up in arms about this coach and he must go for this program to move forward. We don't want to hear, "Be careful what you wish for". No, it's, "Be careful what you don't wish for!" This guy has made us irrelevant again. And, it starts and ends with recruiting. It has been pathetic. If you want another direction for this program, here is what you do. Send your feelings to the following email addresses. [email protected]. and. [email protected]. I have sent multiple emails to both and I know well over a hundred other who have done the same. If you sit back and just accept mediocrity, that's what you'll get. That's what we have. The years change, but the story stays the same.
That's rich..Cronintalk. I don't post a bunch but I've followed the talk since message boards were active years ago. The fans here are as predictable as Cronin style basketball. Same stuff every year. Always looking to next year. Making excuses for everything . It gets tiresome. I don't think Ono is going to do anything unless their is massive, massive resistance going forward. He's just not a athletics minded guy and very passive in nature. Nice guy though. Probably happy with status quo and defers to AD Bohn. I don't pretend to know much about Bohn and Cronin's relationship. Maybe more informed minds can elaborate. Look, I don't not want Cronin to win. I defended the guy forever and genuinely want him to succeed and lead our program back to glory. But he has made it so unbelievably difficult to like him or his brand of basketball. Particularly this year. You said it though, Bearcats fans should not be afraid of change. I'd rather not go to the tournament than to suffer through this ineptitude any longer. This program needs new energy and attitude in a big way.
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We went from 62 ppg last year to over 73 this year. We actually lost in the tournament scoring 76. I've complained plenty about our "brand" of basketball, but there was a very noticeable improvement this year.
Yeah yeah.
I get frustrated too. I don't think Cronin is perfect. But like NTS said, you don't fire a coach who makes the tournament every season. Why would we risk having some of these guys transfer out? Did you see Evans last night? Dude was a freshman. Clark all year? Dude was a sophomore. I'm very excited to see what a SR PG can do with this kind of supporting cast. I think we're much closer than you think.
I don't disagree with your statement. But, we've been down this same road many times with Cronin. Everyone's memories are very short. This very season was the one that was supposed to be special. A deep talented senior-laden roster. Mick's best ever. What did we accomplish. Another embarrassing loss to X. 4-5 place finish in a pathetic league. 1st round loss in the conference tournament. Another 1st round loss in the NCAA. A freaking 9 seed, which was worse than last year. X leaving us in their dust. And you want to do it again with this guy? This is an ongoing theme. We're always looking to next year as if next year will be different. 2017 will be the 11th next year of hope and nothing changes. Our fans who want an 11th year of these pathetic results are honestly baffling to me.
That's rich..Cronintalk. I don't post a bunch but I've followed the talk since message boards were active years ago. The fans here are as predictable as Cronin style basketball. Same stuff every year. Always looking to next year. Making excuses for everything . It gets tiresome. I don't think Ono is going to do anything unless their is massive, massive resistance going forward. He's just not a athletics minded guy and very passive in nature. Nice guy though. Probably happy with status quo and defers to AD Bohn. I don't pretend to know much about Bohn and Cronin's relationship. Maybe more informed minds can elaborate. Look, I don't not want Cronin to win. I defended the guy forever and genuinely want him to succeed and lead our program back to glory. But he has made it so unbelievably difficult to like him or his brand of basketball. Particularly this year. You said it though, Bearcats fans should not be afraid of change. I'd rather not go to the tournament than to suffer through this ineptitude any longer. This program needs new energy and attitude in a big way.
Well said. I agree 100%. New energy and attitude is needed badly!