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Was just told Cincinnati is exploring options outside of the BEast. No detail but credible source.
 
bearcat jeff said:
Was just told Cincinnati is exploring options outside of the BEast. No detail but credible source.
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No offense, but if UC wasn't actively seeking options they should fire Greg Williams on the spot. Big East is gone. Football may end up being okay, but all other sports, including basketball, are likely going to suffer big time.
 
ill take kansas, kansas state, hawai and baylor. make it happen.

or follow the trend and get into the ACC
 
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TheLongHaul said:
No chance in hell they get in the ACC...KU, KSU, and Baylor would be good (still a MAJOR step down) for basketball but terrible for football.
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There are still a lot of dominoes to fall. No chance in hell is a bit strong for this moment in time. It is unlikely, but there are still possibilities at this time.
 
TheLongHaul said:
No chance in hell they get in the ACC...KU, KSU, and Baylor would be good (still a MAJOR step down) for basketball but terrible for football.
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Meh not a huge step down if any in basketball. Kansas is arguable a top 5 program in the country. Kansas state has been very good recent as has baylor.
 
TheLivingLegend said:
Meh not a huge step down if any in basketball. Kansas is arguable a top 5 program in the country. Kansas state has been very good recent as has baylor.
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It would be a good basketball conference, but still a big step down from the BE. Completely agree about Kansas, but I think KSU and Baylor are each a coaching change away from being mediocre. The new bastard conference would be lucky to get half the tournament bids of the old BE.
 
Bearcat04 said:
It would be a good basketball conference, but still a big step down from the BE. Completely agree about Kansas, but I think KSU and Baylor are each a coaching change away from being mediocre. The new bastard conference would be lucky to get half the tournament bids of the old BE.
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It's a moot point anyway. WVU is as good as gone. Cuse and Pitt are gone so there won't be a Big East moving forward.
 
JasonS said:
So what are UC's options?

ACC - if reports are true that UCONN is trying to go with Pitt and Syracuse then that leaves one spot. Does UC try to shoehorn their way in? Would the ACC want UC over Rutgers? From an on field/court standpoint UC is head and shoulders above Rutgers but Rutgers has the New York City market (I debate that a little bit but...).

SEC - they could stay at 12 but I have a feeling they would want to move to 16. So, where does UC fit? Honestly, not high on the list but maybe high enough. If Texas Tech instead goes to the Pac 12 with Oklahoma, Texas, and Oklahoma State, does the SEC go after Baylor? Something tells me no. TCU? Not sure they want to go that route either. So what next? Miami and Florida State are logical but I think Florida will put up a stink about any Florida teams. So let's rule them out along with South Florida, for now. Who next? Virginia Tech makes sense but do they want to leave the all new ACC? Clemson makes sense but they face the same question. If they don't leave, that leaves the SEC looking for 4 more schools still. Missouri is a possibility. Memphis is a possibility. Louisville is a possibility. UC is a possibility. WVU is a possibility. I think those are your most likely candidates. WVU
is a shoe in IMO. Missouri is too. I don't think Tennessee wants Memphis and I don't think UK wants Louisville. I think Tennessee wins and UK loses and UL would be in. That leaves one spot. UC is in a
good position because they are the only option in Ohio, which is a great football recruiting area. UC is a top 25 basketball program and would help bolster the SEC in basketball. Cincinnati is a larger media market than any other reasonable option which is good for TV contracts. Is it a slam dunk? No. It is reasonable though.

Big Ten - the Big Ten may be forced to look at UC as an option. This is OSU's worst nightmare and they will do their best to keep UC out. The Big Ten is not happy with all of OSU's issues lately and could stick it to the Buckeyes. UC does not bring a new market to the table which is the big downside for UC. Other schools they might consider are Missouri, Kansas, WVU, Kansas State, Iowa State, Rutgers, Louisville.

Something Brand New - The only other realistic option is UC joining up with the remaining 4 Big East schools plus the remaining 6 Big 12 schools plus TCU plus Memphis to get to 12. They could try to poach Boise State and Central Florida to get to 14. Not very likely IMO but still a possibility.
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Don't meet the academics the Big 10 seeks, they really don't want a "urban commuter school" not to mention tO$U will veto the hell out of anyone else in Ohio.

No chance for the ACC either unless they want to go to 16, then I'd say the chances are 1%

SEC? hahaha no way.

Only chance is for the Big 12 leftovers + CUSA defects.
 
Bearcat_NTS said:
Don't meet the academics the Big 10 seeks, they really don't want a "urban commuter school" not to mention tO$U will veto the hell out of anyone else in Ohio.

No chance for the ACC either unless they want to go to 16, then I'd say the chances are 1%

SEC? hahaha no way.

Only chance is for the Big 12 leftovers + CUSA defects.
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Nebraska didn't meet the "academic standards" of the Big 10 either. You are way too hung up on academics. Conference realignment is about money, not academics.
 
JasonS said:
It's a moot point anyway. WVU is as good as gone. Cuse and Pitt are gone so there won't be a Big East moving forward.
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I never denied that fact for a second. I even said the "old BE" in my post. I was just responding to TheLivingLengend's post that the bastard conference wouldn't be a big step down from the BE as UC knew it. If they are apart of it, I can hang my hat on KU and UL and that's about it. KSU and Baylor are good right now, but if either coach takes a cash grab they are more than likely NIT bound.
 
Bearcat04 said:
I never denied that fact for a second. I even said the "old BE" in my post. I was just responding to TheLivingLengend's post that the bastard conference wouldn't be a big step down from the BE as UC knew it. If they are apart of it, I can hang my hat on KU and UL and that's about it. KSU and Baylor are good right now, but if either coach takes a cash grab they are more than likely NIT bound.
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I hear ya. Ironically, Mike DeCourcy wrote an article saying the exact same thing about Pitt. Everyone should go read it. Good piece.
 
JasonS said:
Nebraska didn't meet the "academic standards" of the Big 10 either. You are way too hung up on academics. Conference realignment is about money, not academics.
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Umm yes they did. The Big 10 reluctantly admitted them while they still had AAU status.

there is reason why a school like Oklahoma was never considered for the Big 10 but Texas was at least rumored.
 
I think UC to the Big 12 is a solid fit. I would rather see Cincinnati playing in a revamped Big 12 than a watered down BEast. UC and UL would fit well with Kansas, KState, TCU, Missouri (headed to Big 10?), Iowa State and Baylor in the overall football/basketball scheme. Logistically playing on the east coast is better, but if the Big East is going to get totally spread out from coast to coast and beyond, a conference affilliation with other midwest and near west schools is the way to go imo. I'm told that UC met with Big 12 officials.
 
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When the ACC, SEC, and PAC 10 expand to 16 the Big 10 will more or less be forced to go to 16. As the ACC and SEC will already have taken Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers, UConn, WVU,Texas A&M, Missouri, U of L, and the PAC 10 will have taken Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State what schools are left for the Big 10?

UC, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, and Baylor. UC is the best fit geographically, and there are 1,800,000 in the Cincinnati TV market. UC to the Big 10.
 
bearcat jeff said:
Could be wrong, I don't see UC going to the Big 10. OSU won't allow it to happen.
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I agree. Plus the Big Ten feels like they already have the Cincinnati market. The only way the Big 10 takes UC is if they have to or if the other schools really want to stick it to tOSU. Notre Dame would be their first choice.
 

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