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Me too. This is the best case scenerio.
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I wouldn't be completely shocked if the pac 12 announcement is just an attempt to avoid a tampering lawsuit from the leftovers of the Big 12. The SEC issued a similar statement 2-3 weeks before they accepted Texas A&M.
Hello all! I'm new to posting here but not new to following the website. I wanted to sign up to give my humble thoughts on the situation and what I think the Big East should do at this point. Since the football schools apparently gave their backing of the conference then I think they need to get on the offensive real quick. Here's my thoughts and I apologize if this is too long:
1. Since Oklahoma has such an issue with the Longhorn Network and the B12 commish then try to get them to join the Big East with Ok State (since they seem to be a package).
2. Tell ND to join the Big East in football or leave now.
3. Try to poach Kansas, K-State and Baylor from the B12 as well. If #1 happens then this shouldn't be a problem, I wouldn't think.
4. Add the following football & basketball schools: Boise St., San Diego St., Memphis and UCF.
5. If ND decides not to join for football then add East Carolina.
6. Then to make things work on the basketball end add Gonzaga and St. Mary's.
This would give them 16 fb/bb schools which would be broke up as follows:
East Division
1. UC
2. UL
3. Rutgers
4. WVU
5. USF
6. Memphis
7. ND/East Car.
8. UCF
West Divison
1. OU
2. OK St
3. TCU
4. Kansas
5. K-State
6. Baylor
7. Boise St.
8. San Diego St.
(That's a powerful football conference imho)
Games would be played like any traditional 2 division leagues.
That would also give us a 25 team super bb conference. I don't think once you get into 17 schools (like the Big East was going to anyway) it really matters if you add more. This way you can have six 4-5 team pods. I thought they would need to add more basketball only schools simply to make east/west matchups easier. Without adding a couple more west bb only schools it would be even more difficult to make up the pods (unless they dropped one or two bb only schools that are currently part of the Big East).
Pod 1
1. UC
2. UL
3. (ND)-if they join in football
4. Villanova
5. WVU - change pods if ND is added
Pod 2
1. Kansas
2. K-State
3. Marquette
4. DePaul
Pod 3
1. TCU
2. Baylor
3. OU
4. OK-State
Pod 4
1. Memphis
2. UCF
3. USF
4. (ECU)-if ND doesn't stay
5. (maybe switch WVU to here if ND stays)
Pod 5
1. St. John's
2. Rutgers
3. Providence
4. Georgetown
5. Seton Hall
Pod 6
1. Gonzaga
2. St. Mary's
3. Boise St.
4. San Diego St.
(hence the reason for the 2 bb only schools from the west added)
You would play each team in your pod twice and each team from 3 other pods once to make 18 conference games. For the one pod with 5 teams they would only play 2 teams from the third pod. You could then switch pods that you play every year. I don't think this makes much difference then how it is now with playing each team once and three teams twice. Once you have that many then who cares. There would be opportunities for some great rivalries in each sport and think of the markets that they would tap into. I think with the top football and basketball teams involved the new Big East could really negotiate an amazing tv deal. I would then up the leaving cost like the ACC did and I think that conference would be the end all. I think if you're going to keep your conference alive in this day and age...you have to do something like this. Many people think it's eventually going to go to a few super-conferences anyway. Think of the matchups and intrigue this conference would build. What do you all think? Is this a stupid idea? Please go easy on me. It's late and I'm just thinking outside the box lol.
1. Since Oklahoma has such an issue with the Longhorn Network and the B12 commish then try to get them to join the Big East with Ok State (since they seem to be a package).
2. Tell ND to join the Big East in football or leave now.
3. Try to poach Kansas, K-State and Baylor from the B12 as well. If #1 happens then this shouldn't be a problem, I wouldn't think.
4. Add the following football & basketball schools: Boise St., San Diego St., Memphis and UCF.
5. If ND decides not to join for football then add East Carolina.
6. Then to make things work on the basketball end add Gonzaga and St. Mary's.
This would give them 16 fb/bb schools which would be broke up as follows:
East Division
1. UC
2. UL
3. Rutgers
4. WVU
5. USF
6. Memphis
7. ND/East Car.
8. UCF
West Divison
1. OU
2. OK St
3. TCU
4. Kansas
5. K-State
6. Baylor
7. Boise St.
8. San Diego St.
(That's a powerful football conference imho)
Games would be played like any traditional 2 division leagues.
That would also give us a 25 team super bb conference. I don't think once you get into 17 schools (like the Big East was going to anyway) it really matters if you add more. This way you can have six 4-5 team pods. I thought they would need to add more basketball only schools simply to make east/west matchups easier. Without adding a couple more west bb only schools it would be even more difficult to make up the pods (unless they dropped one or two bb only schools that are currently part of the Big East).
Pod 1
1. UC
2. UL
3. (ND)-if they join in football
4. Villanova
5. WVU - change pods if ND is added
Pod 2
1. Kansas
2. K-State
3. Marquette
4. DePaul
Pod 3
1. TCU
2. Baylor
3. OU
4. OK-State
Pod 4
1. Memphis
2. UCF
3. USF
4. (ECU)-if ND doesn't stay
5. (maybe switch WVU to here if ND stays)
Pod 5
1. St. John's
2. Rutgers
3. Providence
4. Georgetown
5. Seton Hall
Pod 6
1. Gonzaga
2. St. Mary's
3. Boise St.
4. San Diego St.
(hence the reason for the 2 bb only schools from the west added)
You would play each team in your pod twice and each team from 3 other pods once to make 18 conference games. For the one pod with 5 teams they would only play 2 teams from the third pod. You could then switch pods that you play every year. I don't think this makes much difference then how it is now with playing each team once and three teams twice. Once you have that many then who cares. There would be opportunities for some great rivalries in each sport and think of the markets that they would tap into. I think with the top football and basketball teams involved the new Big East could really negotiate an amazing tv deal. I would then up the leaving cost like the ACC did and I think that conference would be the end all. I think if you're going to keep your conference alive in this day and age...you have to do something like this. Many people think it's eventually going to go to a few super-conferences anyway. Think of the matchups and intrigue this conference would build. What do you all think? Is this a stupid idea? Please go easy on me. It's late and I'm just thinking outside the box lol.
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Big East Commissioner John Marinatto says all the members of his conference are committed to staying together.
The presidents and athletic directors from the Big East football schools met for 3 hours at a Manhattan hotel Tuesday.
Marinatto says each member pledged to remain in the conference and the league is aggressively searching for replacements for Pittsburgh and Syracuse. He says the non-football members also are on board.
Before the meeting, a Big East official told USA Today that the group would examine every option of every scenario and would be ready to act quickly should the opportunity present itself.
Leaving the meeting around 9:30 p.m. Tuesday, Rutgers president Richard McCormick said of the Big East’s future, “Very good. Certainly from our standpoint.”
The University of Cincinnati still prefers a future in the Big East, interim athletic director Bob Arkeilpane said earlier Tuesday.
“I think what (UC president Gregory Williams) has said all along is that yes, we have a commitment to the Big East,” Arkeilpane said. “We really believe that that grouping of schools right now is the best fit for us for a variety of reasons. But in the event something were to happen that were to fracture (the Big East) further than it has already, we’ve left ourselves some options on the outside as well.”
Big 12 members Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech are said to be considering moves to the Pac-12. If they leave, the depleted Big 12 – including Kansas, Kansas State, Baylor, Iowa State and Missouri – could join some form of a depleted Big East – including UC, Louisville, South Florida, West Virginia and new member TCU. ESPN.com reported Tuesday the Big 12 would look to absorb the Big East schools in that scenario.
UC’s Arkeilpane would not specify what the options are, but acknowledged that some sort of merger with the remaining Big 12 schools was logical. And Notre Dame Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick told USA Today that a Big East/Big 12 union made sense “in some version, whether it’s a formal conference merger or some derivation. We’ll see. I’d say there’s another alternative, which is the Big 12 holds (together) and the Big East finds suitable replacements.”
One Big East source told ESPN.com he did not expect any substantial decisions to be made at the meeting, but called it "a chance to look each other in the eye and get a feel for who’s in and who’s out."
Among teams that would be considered for addition to the Big East, according to the ESPN.com source, are Central Florida, East Carolina, Army, Navy, and Air Force.
Unclear is whether a Big East with some combination of those schools, or a Big East-Big 12 hybrid without traditional powers like Texas and Oklahoma (and Nebraska and Colorado, which left last summer) would be enough to retain an automatic Bowl Championship Series bid.
A Wall Street Journal story polled six former coaches, athletic directors and TV/media marketing experts as to which schools were the most vulnerable in the shift to megaconferences. UC was one of six schools named, along with Louisville, South Florida and TCU, and Baylor and Iowa State of the Big 12.
Other developments:
--Missouri, among the more attractive Big 12 schools not in the Pac 12 conversation, has surfaced as a target for the Southeastern Conference. But the SEC said it had extended no invitations beyond that given to Texas A&M.
--West Virginia’s overtures for membership were rejected by the SEC and ACC, CBSSports.com reported.
--According to reports, if Notre Dame relinquishes its independent status, it might prefer the ACC to its longtime suitor, the Big Ten.
http://news.cincinnati.com/article/...ommitted-Big-East?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|UC
The presidents and athletic directors from the Big East football schools met for 3 hours at a Manhattan hotel Tuesday.
Marinatto says each member pledged to remain in the conference and the league is aggressively searching for replacements for Pittsburgh and Syracuse. He says the non-football members also are on board.
Before the meeting, a Big East official told USA Today that the group would examine every option of every scenario and would be ready to act quickly should the opportunity present itself.
Leaving the meeting around 9:30 p.m. Tuesday, Rutgers president Richard McCormick said of the Big East’s future, “Very good. Certainly from our standpoint.”
The University of Cincinnati still prefers a future in the Big East, interim athletic director Bob Arkeilpane said earlier Tuesday.
“I think what (UC president Gregory Williams) has said all along is that yes, we have a commitment to the Big East,” Arkeilpane said. “We really believe that that grouping of schools right now is the best fit for us for a variety of reasons. But in the event something were to happen that were to fracture (the Big East) further than it has already, we’ve left ourselves some options on the outside as well.”
Big 12 members Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech are said to be considering moves to the Pac-12. If they leave, the depleted Big 12 – including Kansas, Kansas State, Baylor, Iowa State and Missouri – could join some form of a depleted Big East – including UC, Louisville, South Florida, West Virginia and new member TCU. ESPN.com reported Tuesday the Big 12 would look to absorb the Big East schools in that scenario.
UC’s Arkeilpane would not specify what the options are, but acknowledged that some sort of merger with the remaining Big 12 schools was logical. And Notre Dame Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick told USA Today that a Big East/Big 12 union made sense “in some version, whether it’s a formal conference merger or some derivation. We’ll see. I’d say there’s another alternative, which is the Big 12 holds (together) and the Big East finds suitable replacements.”
One Big East source told ESPN.com he did not expect any substantial decisions to be made at the meeting, but called it "a chance to look each other in the eye and get a feel for who’s in and who’s out."
Among teams that would be considered for addition to the Big East, according to the ESPN.com source, are Central Florida, East Carolina, Army, Navy, and Air Force.
Unclear is whether a Big East with some combination of those schools, or a Big East-Big 12 hybrid without traditional powers like Texas and Oklahoma (and Nebraska and Colorado, which left last summer) would be enough to retain an automatic Bowl Championship Series bid.
A Wall Street Journal story polled six former coaches, athletic directors and TV/media marketing experts as to which schools were the most vulnerable in the shift to megaconferences. UC was one of six schools named, along with Louisville, South Florida and TCU, and Baylor and Iowa State of the Big 12.
Other developments:
--Missouri, among the more attractive Big 12 schools not in the Pac 12 conversation, has surfaced as a target for the Southeastern Conference. But the SEC said it had extended no invitations beyond that given to Texas A&M.
--West Virginia’s overtures for membership were rejected by the SEC and ACC, CBSSports.com reported.
--According to reports, if Notre Dame relinquishes its independent status, it might prefer the ACC to its longtime suitor, the Big Ten.
http://news.cincinnati.com/article/...ommitted-Big-East?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|UC
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Saw reports on sportscenter confirming Bearcat Jeffs reports of Big East having interest in Central Florida, East Carolina, Army, Navy, and Air Force.
Also saw reports that Oklahoma and OK state may be beaded to the SEC--and Texas did not agree to shared revenue plan that Pac offered and thus blew up the whole deal.
Also saw reports that Oklahoma and OK state may be beaded to the SEC--and Texas did not agree to shared revenue plan that Pac offered and thus blew up the whole deal.
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East Carolina applies for Big East membership
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...rolina-applies-big-east-conference-membership
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...rolina-applies-big-east-conference-membership
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