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[GarradJ21]

They were mentioning on the radio that just a few years ago we were on the other side of these types of games. Our veteran leadership came through. Clark, Washington, and Evans. And Jenifer at the beginning.

Exactly. I mean I know we all are hoping for double digit wins each game or at least to extremely solid but unfortunately we are not going to some games it is what it is, but yes 2 years ago we lose that game. We lost @Temple @Tulsa @SMU in grind out no leadership type games. The way Gary was getting the ball and telling everyone to clear out, the way KW was playing with confidence and the way JE III hit the clutch shot, it shows what this team is all about.

 

[waterhead]

Exactly. I mean I know we all are hoping for double digit wins each game or at least to extremely solid but unfortunately we are not going to some games it is what it is, but yes 2 years ago we lose that game. We lost @Temple @Tulsa @SMU in grind out no leadership type games. The way Gary was getting the ball and telling everyone to clear out, the way KW was playing with confidence and the way JE III hit the clutch shot, it shows what this team is all about.

Yes, I remember once when he waved Kyle out of the lane and once he waived Jenifer through. I think both resulted in a bucket. It's crazy how that works out when Gary is not getting crowded with someone elses defender standing near him to double down.

 

[cincrulz11]

They were mentioning on the radio that just a few years ago we were on the other side of these types of games. Our veteran leadership came through. Clark, Washington, and Evans. And Jenifer at the beginning.

its veteran leadership when you win them. but that year Caupain was a Jr, Ellis was a Sr, Cobb was a Sr, KJ was a Jr.


Sometimes the luck is just against you for an entire season, thats what 2016 was about, it wasn't a lack of leadership.


Our team having experience players didn't cause Temple to miss those wide open looks the last 5 minutes. Sometimes the luck is on your side.

 

[juckerrules]

Best player on the team did what he needed to do! Very clutch

Jacob came through...although If I had to start a team from scratch, I'd be hard pressed to choose between Evans & Clark.

 

[waterhead]

its veteran leadership when you win them. but that year Caupain was a Jr, Ellis was a Sr, Cobb was a Sr, KJ was a Jr.


Sometimes the luck is just against you for an entire season, thats what 2016 was about, it wasn't a lack of leadership.


Our team having experience players didn't cause Temple to miss those wide open looks the last 5 minutes. Sometimes the luck is on your side.

Yah...I'm not sure leadership can get it done alone. You need to have players you can throw the ball to and trust something good can happen with it in the closing seconds or minutes. That team didn't really have enough help for Caupain. A little luck doesn't hurt either.

 

[juckerrules]

There's no discernable pattern. A lot of the time he has no say in the exact amount of minutes he plays. If Clark is going good against anyone decent, he'll get the 30+. If it's a blowout, there is foul trouble, or anything else, he'll play more. Scott's role is to be a backup and hold serve. He normally does that. And this year, on this team, that's all we need him to do. He didn't do that last night. He had a really bad game. I don't think that's typical of him at all though. Up to this point he has been serviceable imo. I'm not getting into anything beyond this year. I have no idea what that's going to look like. This year his role is very defined. He fits that role most of the time. Sometimes guys have awful games. It's not like he wanted that. And we're fortunate enough for that to not be something that sinks us. Ease up on the young man. He's working his ass off to help the team in any way he can.

^ That...plus I have literally heard coach Cronin extol his virtues...He has said with words out of his mouth really good things about Trevon..I don't think he's blowing smoke...I think he truly values what Scott brings to the team

 

[jacobkdoyle]

its veteran leadership when you win them. but that year Caupain was a Jr, Ellis was a Sr, Cobb was a Sr, KJ was a Jr.


Sometimes the luck is just against you for an entire season, thats what 2016 was about, it wasn't a lack of leadership.


Our team having experience players didn't cause Temple to miss those wide open looks the last 5 minutes. Sometimes the luck is on your side.

Definitely takes luck to win a game like last night. I think our core this year though just has a lot more experience than that group. That team was basically Caupain and Evans as the only options late in the year. We have a lot of players who know how to play through a full 40 minute game.

 

[waterhead]

Jacob came through...although If I had to start a team from scratch, I'd be hard pressed to choose between Evans & Clark.

Can't go wrong. Tough choice.

 

[Garybearcat]

This site is the same 10 people over and over again. If your not in the club too bad. Well there are other places to go for news. Go Bearcats! Done with this site.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

This site is the same 10 people over and over again. If your not in the club too bad. Well there are other places to go for news. Go Bearcats! Done with this site.

New phone, who dis?

 

[rogerOH]

Love this years team, 13-2 great start. 13 wins -I don't care if they were pretty. If we just get rid of the traveling calls alone we win most of the rest of our games, and there is no way Cumberland stays in this funk all year long. I do think Cane needs to assert himself offensively and just hope there are no injuries. Go Cats.

 

[Jon Rycek]

This. We have too many “fan police” on this site. Fans overract to everything in every sport. If a team plays well, and ranked high, fans will think it’s we are winning a championship, ( Xavier fans right now). If we play bad, it’s the end of the world. Both are fine. That’s what makes it fun. Nothing new

Cincinnati fans especially.

 

[Jon Rycek]

I hate to say it, but we only won because Temple completely sucked shooting, especially down the stretch. Yes, our guys fought hard and still played good D, but execution wise, any team on our schedule might could've beaten us last night had they simply made shots. I'll even go further and say any past Mick team would never rebound that bad so I'm not sure other Mick teams don't pull that out. Basically at the end of the day, Temple scored 53 points... that's why they lost. I won't take anything away from the guys getting a W fair and square but last night might have been one of the ugliest performances I've seen from our Bearcats in 25 years of being a fan. We won by sheer luck of not being the worse team last night. Just think if there was no blizzard and that place was sold out and rocking, too. I'm happy we won, but I won't hang my hat on anything other than it was an ugly game on both sides. And our effort level seemed horrible. Even the commentators noticed how when Jenifer hit the deck, no one came to his aide. After that, Nick lit the team up for it in te time out and we actually seemed to be more focused. This team has an identity issue if you ask me. We are too talented to lay eggs like we have in three games now. Even without Broome, there's no excuse for the effort last night as a whole.

But with that logic you could say we would have crushed them if we made shots. Of course the team that shoots better usually wins lol. We were without a big part of our offense. Both kyle and Gary were in foul trouble the whole game. Evans was off until the last 5 minutes. It could have easily gone the other way too. Like it's been said a million times, we won and that's all that really matters

 

[swg]

Ugly game
Offensively it looked like 2010
Player development continues to be an issue

 

[TheLongHaul]

Unfortunately I'm just too busy to post here much anymore (maybe fortunately for you all), but I think my last post a month or so ago was about how important Broome is to this team. From day 1 it was obvious he was the most important player for this team to make a deep run. They aren't the same without him. JJ just isn't that good. Hopefully Broome gets back and STARTS.

That said this team has problems. By far the most talented team since the Huggins years but something is off. Offense still struggles, is way to stagnant, and has no rhythm. Players are still like robots out there running the set plays rather than taking what is given. Players don't understand their roles, or Mick isn't giving them roles. I think the latter is the case. I like the potential of Williams but he doesn't have to jack up a terrible shot every time he touches a ball. His role is simple: defense and rebounding. Not shooting. Same with Trey Scott. And why the hell do they run a low post offense through Brooks when he is in the game? His role is defense and putbacks. With UC's back court of Broome (when healthy), Evans, and Cumberland, they should be the offense when Clark and Washington are on the bench, not dumping the freaking ball to Brooks.

Cumberland's confidence is shattered. He was unbelievable in pre-season but he is a totally different player now. Even his passing is off. He needs to find his groove. Who gives a shit if you get a charge called, keep driving to the basket.

Still plenty of time but very frustrating to see this team struggle while a much less talented X team is ranked top 5.

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[Jon Rycek]

Ugly game
Offensively it looked like 2010
Player development continues to be an issue

Lol

 

[Jon Rycek]

Unfortunately I'm just too busy to post here much anymore (maybe fortunately for you all), but I think my last post a month or so ago was about how important Broome is to this team. From day 1 it was obvious he was the most important player for this team to make a deep run. They aren't the same without him. JJ just isn't that good. Hopefully Broome gets back and STARTS.

That said this team has problems. By far the most talented team since the Huggins years but something is off. Offense still struggles, is way to stagnant, and has no rhythm. Players are still like robots out there running the set plays rather than taking what is given. Players don't understand their roles, or Mick isn't giving them roles. I think the latter is the case. I like the potential of Williams but he doesn't have to jack up a terrible shot every time he touches a ball. His role is simple: defense and rebounding. Not shooting. Same with Trey Scott. And why the hell do they run a low post offense through Brooks when he is in the game? His role is defense and putbacks. With UC's back court of Broome (when healthy), Evans, and Cumberland, they should be the offense when Clark and Washington are on the bench, not dumping the freaking ball to Brooks.

Cumberland's confidence is shattered. He was unbelievable in pre-season but he is a totally different player now. Even his passing is off. He needs to find his groove. Who gives a shit if you get a charge called, keep driving to the basket.

Still plenty of time but very frustrating to see this team struggle while a much less talented X team is ranked top 5.

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Hey as one of the fan police I see nothing wrong with this post lol. This is the kind of stuff that does further the conversation, and honestly I agree with a lot of what you said. I really hope Cumberland can get out of this funk, I don't think it's because he isn't that good, or people have figured him out, he's regressing, whatever. I just think like you said, his confidence is way down and he is playing tight and that's never a good thing. Williams can be a catalyst at certain times, he is very similar to Washington in the fact he doesn't know when not to shoot sometimes. But overall he is a good player off the bench, same with pretty much all of our bench players, they have a roll and play it pretty well. I'm okay with broome off the bench, but I think his minutes have to go up regardless. But like you said it's frustrating not being exactly where you thought we would be (ranking wise) but you switch that Florida game around and we are top ten too. Sometimes one loss changes a lot, we will make our way back up there just gotta keep winning these games.

 

[TheLongHaul]

Hey as one of the fan police I see nothing wrong with this post lol. This is the kind of stuff that does further the conversation, and honestly I agree with a lot of what you said. I really hope Cumberland can get out of this funk, I don't think it's because he isn't that good, or people have figured him out, he's regressing, whatever. I just think like you said, his confidence is way down and he is playing tight and that's never a good thing. Williams can be a catalyst at certain times, he is very similar to Washington in the fact he doesn't know when not to shoot sometimes. But overall he is a good player off the bench, same with pretty much all of our bench players, they have a roll and play it pretty well. I'm okay with broome off the bench, but I think his minutes have to go up regardless. But like you said it's frustrating not being exactly where you thought we would be (ranking wise) but you switch that Florida game around and we are top ten too. Sometimes one loss changes a lot, we will make our way back up there just gotta keep winning these games.

Agree with a lot of what you say, but curious why you are okay with Cane coming off the bench? I 100% disagree with the popular notion that it's not who starts but who finished. Not saying this is something you say, but it's a stupid cliche. Who starts is very important. Just look at the Xavier game. It's one thing if a player happens to be better off the bench, which is very rare. But Broome's been starting his whole life and has been the go to guy, he can handle it. No reason he shouldn't start. If Mick prizes ball control just look at last night where JJ got his pocket picked twice in terrible fashion.

Also, I see what you are saying about the Florida game, and I agree, however, Florida gave UC that game and they didn't take it. Florida played like crap and UC still lost. It's one thing to just lose a close game to a good team, it's another to play terrible and throw a way a chance for a decent win.

I think Cumberland's confidence is gone, but I also think it has something to do with teams now have better scouting on him. It's obvious they want to give him the shot and take a way the drive. They aren't following for the pump fake. He needs to put that in his pocket and be quicker with his decisions. Catch the ball, attack the basket.

 

[ME80]

This thread proves what I have said for years. I never understood why someone wants to post during the game. Maybe it's my age but there are too many emotions during the game, I'd rather yell at the TV, LOL. I am sure we all have negative thoughts towards players and coaches at times, I just let myself cool down before I would put them in print.

 

[justinhub2003]

Unfortunately I'm just too busy to post here much anymore (maybe fortunately for you all), but I think my last post a month or so ago was about how important Broome is to this team. From day 1 it was obvious he was the most important player for this team to make a deep run. They aren't the same without him. JJ just isn't that good. Hopefully Broome gets back and STARTS.

That said this team has problems. By far the most talented team since the Huggins years but something is off. Offense still struggles, is way to stagnant, and has no rhythm. Players are still like robots out there running the set plays rather than taking what is given. Players don't understand their roles, or Mick isn't giving them roles. I think the latter is the case. I like the potential of Williams but he doesn't have to jack up a terrible shot every time he touches a ball. His role is simple: defense and rebounding. Not shooting. Same with Trey Scott. And why the hell do they run a low post offense through Brooks when he is in the game? His role is defense and putbacks. With UC's back court of Broome (when healthy), Evans, and Cumberland, they should be the offense when Clark and Washington are on the bench, not dumping the freaking ball to Brooks.

Cumberland's confidence is shattered. He was unbelievable in pre-season but he is a totally different player now. Even his passing is off. He needs to find his groove. Who gives a shit if you get a charge called, keep driving to the basket.

Still plenty of time but very frustrating to see this team struggle while a much less talented X team is ranked top 5.

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1. What makes you think we have more talent than x? X has an entire roster of top 100 players or at worst seniors. They can’t defend anyone. It will bite them in the ass sooner or later

2. Tre Scott never shoots the ball. Why would you include him in the conversation of Williams? And Keith probably hits 3’s in practice otherwise Cronin wouldn’t let him take open 3’s... and even then Williams is only shooting wide open 3’s in rythem with the offense. He isn’t taking step back contested jumpers

3. Did you see how well brooks had played leading up to this game? He had actually started developing a quick move towards the basket and was converting. Clark and Kyle were in foul trouble, so brooks had to play and they wanted to see what he can do especially when 3’s weren’t falling. He is playing in front of his home crowd. They gave him a shot.



And this is in general; people are acting like we’ve played this bad all year. We haven’t. It’s ond bad game at temple which is the norm.