The Wes Miller Era

[justinhub2003]

He’s heading to Seattle tomorrow to try and get Tari back on board


As for Mason.. while i was never a huge fan of the pick up, I’ve grown to like him and I’d guess Wes and Mason could really bond on being guys who can shoot and just flat out work their ass off against the odds.


Ddj, mikey
Maw, Mason
JD
Tari
Lahkin

Need a 3&D defender, and 2-3 bigs

 

[cincrulz11]

He’s heading to Seattle tomorrow to try and get Tari back on board


As for Mason.. while i was never a huge fan of the pick up, I’ve grown to like him and I’d guess Wes and Mason could really bond on being guys who can shoot and just flat out work their ass off against the odds.


Ddj, mikey
Maw, Mason
JD
Tari
Lahkin

Need a 3&D defender, and 2-3 bigs

The task to get Tari is going to be a difficult one. He got big offers. Also not real sure they are fond of how we were calling the kids soft.

 

[sedziobs]

Yep if Tari stays, we're almost back to same roster situation we were looking at before the exodus. This is what I had then:

PG: DeJulius 20 / Saunders 20
SG: Transfer 10 / MAW 15 / Mason 15
SF: Davenport 10 / Transfer 15 / Gabe 15
PF: Eason 20 / Davenport 20
C: Transfer 25 / Diarra 5 / Eason 5 / Lakhin 5

At that time I wanted a transfer wing and transfer big. I think along with Tari, those remain the priorities, and also add in a freshman big and a freshman wing.

 

[cincrulz11]

Yep if Tari stays, we're almost back to same roster situation we were looking at before the exodus. This is what I had then:


At that time I wanted a transfer wing and transfer big. I think along with Tari, those remain the priorities, and also add in a freshman big and a freshman wing.

Call up my guy Spell and let him know everybody is coming back and we'd like him to join.

 

[justinhub2003]

The task to get Tari is going to be a difficult one. He got big offers. Also not real sure they are fond of how we were calling the kids soft.

I think we’re closer to getting Tari back then most think.

But yea I have no idea

 

[justinhub2003]

Call up my guy Spell and let him know everybody is coming back and we'd like him to join.

Seems like Miller really likes athletic bigs.

I think we let him go and try to fill the spots in the portal. I want To have room on the roster for him to add his own 4 year guys over the next few years.

As it stands, we lack rebounding, so I’d hope we can fill that vacancy

 

[sedziobs]

Call up my guy Spell and let him know everybody is coming back and we'd like him to join.

I'd take him. Seems like a gym rat that fits the Wes ethic, and he's from a neighboring state so he might be familiar. Greensboro is right down the road from Elon (where Spell had an offer I think mostly because his dad played there if I remember right). Who knows.

 

[cincrulz11]

Seems like Miller really likes athletic bigs.

I think we let him go and try to fill the spots in the portal. I want To have room on the roster for him to add his own 4 year guys over the next few years.

As it stands, we lack rebounding, so I’d hope we can fill that vacancy

I would say bring his own 4-star stretch-4 freshman with him, but when I watch videos of Spell and Hensley in high school, Spell looks more skilled to me and has a MUCH better release.


Had Hensley not signed with Miller I would have forgot all about Spell, but if he saw something in Hensley...

 

[cincrulz11]

I'd take him. Seems like a gym rat that fits the Wes ethic, and he's from a neighboring state so he might be familiar. Greensboro is right down the road from Elon (where Spell had an offer I think mostly because his dad played there if I remember right). Who knows.

The work ethic is there, and we just need some young guys in the program. I'm not sure how many high school guys haven't signed yet. We need to fill a lot of positions, a few freshman would be great.

 

[waterhead]

I think we’re closer to getting Tari back then most think.

But yea I have no idea

I'm sure the Saunders committal won't hurt

They were roommates

 

[TheRealMick]

TransferPG/Mickey/Ddj
TransferSg/SF/maw/Mason
Davenport/Eason/transferSG/SF
Tari/TransferPF/C/spell
TransferC/PF/lahkin

I see us needing upgrades at G and rim protectors. Get two guys that can play 1-3 preferably and couple 6’10 or better rim protectors/rebounders

 

[cincrulz11]

I'm still confident we can compete next year. I don't think this needs to be a 4 year project. I feel like JD's Sr year should have a solid shot at the tournament with him, MAW, and Saunders. Gotta add some people to it, but its not a bad place to start.


Year 2 right now looks better than year 2 did 2 years ago.

 

[Emperor Snapper]

Stylistically they aren't the same on offense. Cronin doesn't want his guys shooting 3's for the most part, Miller's teams shoot a ton of them.


That right there is a huge difference.

Yea, Miller's teams absolutely heave 3-pointers. I don't mind it so much as a general philosophy, but hopefully they can hit a few more here than they did there.

Even with a really good shooting team, there are going to be games where they just kill themselves with a ton of misses. It is part of the bargain you make.

 

[Emperor Snapper]

That and not walking the ball up the court were music to my ears

Of course, every coach says that. Even guys who coach at the slowest pace in the world always promise they are going to "run more if the opportunity is there"

 

[TheRealMick]

Saunders first to commit Brannen and Miller?

 

[cincrulz11]

Of course, every coach says that. Even guys who coach at the slowest pace in the world always promise they are going to "run more if the opportunity is there"

Yeah but his teams actually do it. He doesn't say they are going to do it every offseason and then they don't.

Miller has some wild stuff in how his previous teams have played. He's coached teams that played the 6th fastest overall tempo as well as the 319th fastest.

They've been between 67.5 and 67.9 possessions per game the past 3 years. Mick never went above 67. Brannen's first year we were 68.1.

I don't have the average length of possession on offense, but I've heard his teams are top 100, but they force you into longer possessions on defense.

 

[Emperor Snapper]

Yeah but his teams actually do it. He doesn't say they are going to do it every offseason and then they don't.

Miller has some wild stuff in how his previous teams have played. He's coached teams that played the 6th fastest overall tempo as well as the 319th fastest.

They've been between 67.5 and 67.9 possessions per game the past 3 years. Mick never went above 67. Brannen's first year we were 68.1.

I don't have the average length of possession on offense, but I've heard his teams are top 100, but they force you into longer possessions on defense.

Yeah, he likes to pressure the ball after made FG in order to bleed the shot clock and make it hard to run your offense, which will slow the overall pace even if you play fairly quick on offense.

There is a general truism in college basketball that the fans all want the team to play faster and the coaches all lie about how fast they intend to play to placate the fans, though. It isn't a UC thing; every single coach talks about playing faster in every offseason presser.

 

[waterhead]

Of course, every coach says that. Even guys who coach at the slowest pace in the world always promise they are going to "run more if the opportunity is there"

I understand coach speak isn't coach do all the time. But a hybrid of Cronin and Brannen ball sure would be nice. Play D, rebound, push tempo and shoot 3's. Those can all be done. Cronin didn't have the depth (that he could trust) to keep up the pace. He had to slow it down on purpose to keep fresh legs. I want to do both but you need depth

 

[cincyguy13]

Yeah, he likes to pressure the ball after made FG in order to bleed the shot clock and make it hard to run your offense, which will slow the overall pace even if you play fairly quick on offense.

There is a general truism in college basketball that the fans all want the team to play faster and the coaches all lie about how fast they intend to play to placate the fans, though. It isn't a UC thing; every single coach talks about playing faster in every offseason presser.

Yeah, I don’t take anything they say at a press conference serious. As far as play style. They all say the same things at a press conference. Play fast, tough, etc.....

 

[cincyguy13]

I think we’re closer to getting Tari back then most think.

But yea I have no idea

I hope. Would love to see him play with some experience and confidence. I just think if you have options close to home, or closer to home, you’ll probably lean that way.