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#BearcatNation said:
Not sure if anyone has posted this yet, but bracketmatrix.com is back up. Looks like our average is the top 6-seed, in-between Wisconsin and St. Mary's.
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The highest I've seen us is a 3 (hasn't been updated on bracketmatrix.com yet). He's got us going 26-5, then I'm guessing winning the conference tournament.

http://www.rtsratings.com/cbb_bracket.asp

We're as low as an 8 on two of them (clearly garbage brackets ;))
 
justinhub2003 said:
They have a player who could finish his career never losing to uc. They clearly have a mental edge on us. I really don't want them coming into our house intimidating our players because of who they just beat.

I hate Xavier with all my heart. But they are kinda starting to own us. I just want to beat them. And I'd rather them not come in with 2 huge roads wins like that.

Like I don't care about rankings, but if they win all those games they will clearly be far and away 2 fold better then us. I'd rather not be embarrassed again.
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I understand your point. It's time for payback. No excuses... I don't care about rankings in this game.
 
Bearcat_NTS said:
Cincinnati remains at #22 in the AP Poll
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With the lack of respect for the AAC this year, I'm thinking we could go undefeated in the AAC and not break the top 10.

What sucks about being #22 is that one loss can kick you out. I think we deserve to be ahead of st Mary's and top 20 if we beat smu and finish 2-0 this week
 
justinhub2003 said:
With the lack of respect for the AAC this year, I'm thinking we could go undefeated in the AAC and not break the top 10.

What sucks about being #22 is that one loss can kick you out. I think we deserve to be ahead of st Mary's and top 20 if we beat smu and finish 2-0 this week
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Yeah, we should be ahead of St Mary but that's about it. Not much we can do, not many upsets. I do agree with your first comment too. Kinda feels like Western Michigan in football or any non P5 school. We can keep winning but we could consistently get jumped by teams in stronger conferences like the ACC or Big East. Prime example would be Notre Dame jumping us because of who they beat.
 
UCalum08 said:
Yeah, we should be ahead of St Mary but that's about it. Not much we can do, not many upsets. I do agree with your first comment too. Kinda feels like Western Michigan in football or any non P5 school. We can keep winning but we could consistently get jumped by teams in stronger conferences like the ACC or Big East. Prime example would be Notre Dame jumping us because of who they beat.
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Yea and I feel smu getting a little disrespected too (like always really).

They have won 10 straight.

2 top 50 kenpom wins

3 losses to top 100 teams

4 top 100 wins

And 26th in kenpom.


Yet received just 5 votes this week.


You can also tell the ap voters didn't wait to submit their poll. As they have USC still ranked who lost late last night to an average Cal team at home. They had 20 votes. Meaning 20 people submitted their ballot early.


That said. I think the top 25 had been really solid this year as in mostly being pretty consensus. It's a very solid top 20 and very hard to break into
 
St Marys plays Gonazaga and hopefully some of these teams will start losing this week. We will be alright. I would imagine if no losses by CrossTown Shootout we will be 18ish? Win against Xavier we can start being in the top 15.
 
A 2-0 Week could help us break the top 20.

Here is who the teams in front of us play:

#21 St Mary's: @portland @Gonzaga.... Probably lose to zags

#20 Notre Dame @Miami @Virginia Tech.... Chance to lose both or at least 1

#19 Virginia: @Clemson.... Clemson is not bad, could very well beat VA at home

#18 Wisconsin: Ohio State.. Not gonna lose

#17 Purdue: @Iowa... Prob won't lose

#16 Arizona: Arizona State.. Prob win by 20

#15 Xavier: @villanove @Butler... Brutal
 
justinhub2003 said:
A 2-0 Week could help us break the top 20.

Here is who the teams in front of us play:

#21 St Mary's: @portland @Gonzaga.... Probably lose to zags

#20 Notre Dame @Miami @Virginia Tech.... Chance to lose both or at least 1

#19 Virginia: @Clemson.... Clemson is not bad, could very well beat VA at home

#18 Wisconsin: Ohio State.. Not gonna lose

#17 Purdue: @Iowa... Prob won't lose

#16 Arizona: Arizona State.. Prob win by 20

#15 Xavier: @villanove @Butler... Brutal
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Beat SMU and we could easily move up 5 spots.
 
UCalum08 said:
Yeah, we should be ahead of St Mary but that's about it. Not much we can do, not many upsets. I do agree with your first comment too. Kinda feels like Western Michigan in football or any non P5 school. We can keep winning but we could consistently get jumped by teams in stronger conferences like the ACC or Big East. Prime example would be Notre Dame jumping us because of who they beat.
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The nice thing about BB, compared to football, is that at the end of the day these polls are just for fun, and don't actually affect the season.
 
justinhub2003 said:
Yea and I feel smu getting a little disrespected too (like always really).

They have won 10 straight.

2 top 50 kenpom wins

3 losses to top 100 teams

4 top 100 wins

And 26th in kenpom.


Yet received just 5 votes this week.


You can also tell the ap voters didn't wait to submit their poll. As they have USC still ranked who lost late last night to an average Cal team at home. They had 20 votes. Meaning 20 people submitted their ballot early.


That said. I think the top 25 had been really solid this year as in mostly being pretty consensus. It's a very solid top 20 and very hard to break into
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You can bet SMU is counting on getting the respect they deserve by taking down a top 25 team on their home floor.... Cats had better strap it on for this game
 
Seems like this is the hardest place to move up. - lot of action just a little too far in front of us, if we could just work our way close to the top 15 I don't see us falling much.
 
Jon Rycek said:
Seems like this is the hardest place to move up. - lot of action just a little too far in front of us, if we could just work our way close to the top 15 I don't see us falling much.
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The second we lose to anyone not named Xavier we will be out. Voters are just waiting.
 
I dunno if any of you guys follow the Reddit.com/r/collegebasketball thread (the best place for breaking college basketball news and discussion in one place)

But I am a 2nd year voter in the Reddit top 25 poll.

Every other week I couldn't justify putting UC in the top 20 but I think the week they have a much better case.

Here is the first draft of my poll that I will submit after all games are final today.

1. Villanova
2. Kansas
3. UCLA
4. Gonzaga
5. Kentucky
6. Baylor
7. West Virginia
8. Creighton
9. UNC
10. Louisville
11. Oregon
12. Florida State
13. Butler
14. Arizona
15. Wisconsin
16. Virginia
17. Notre dame
18. Duke
19. Cincinnati
20. Florida
21. Purdue
22. South Carolina
23. Maryland
24. Xavier
25. St Mary's

Feel free to "poll attack" and let me know where you disagree. generally the reddit poll is full of pretty smart ballots and it very closer resembles the AP poll.

I think we crack top 20 this week.
 
Uc should at minimum move up to 20. I expect us to jump xavier and st marys. justinhub had us over purdue as well (they beat #13 Wisconsin then lost to Iowa) im just not sure the voters will. Interested to see if smu receives more or less votes after taking us to the wire
 
Bleacher report has us at 18.

B/R's Week 11 Top 25 Poll
Team Record Last Poll
1. Villanova 17-1 3
2. Kansas 16-1 1
3. UCLA 18-1 3
4. Gonzaga 17-0 5
5. Kentucky 15-2 6
6. Baylor 16-1 2
7. West Virginia 15-2 11
8. Creighton 17-1 9
9. Oregon 16-2 7
10. North Carolina 16-3 15
11. Notre Dame 16-2 13
12. Florida State 16-2 10
13. Wisconsin 14-3 14
14. Arizona 16-2 15
15. Louisville 15-3 19
16. Virginia 13-3 19
17. Butler 15-3 12
18. Cincinnati 15-2 22
19. Florida 14-3 23
20. Saint Mary's 15-2 19
21. Duke 14-4 8
22. Maryland 16-2 NR
23. Xavier 13-4 18
24. Purdue 14-4 17
25. South Carolina 14-3 NR
B/R
 

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