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If we win out, I can see us as a #2, but I just don't see us getting a #1....not sure I feel like we are a #1 seed anyway.
 
If we win out, I can see us as a #2, but I just don't see us getting a #1....not sure I feel like we are a #1 seed anyway.

If we win out you can "see us" as a 2 seed. No, that's pretty much fact at this point. We win out, 2 seed is pretty much a guarantee
 
If we win out you can "see us" as a 2 seed. No, that's pretty much fact at this point. We win out, 2 seed is pretty much a guarantee

what does "...pretty much fact" even mean?

My point is, a #2 seed seems to be our cap. But even with winning out, its not a sure thing.
 
Ok is this better, if we win out we are 100% a 2 seed at worst.

I'll take that bet. I think if we win out we're a #3. Any loss pushes us to the #4/#5 line.

The committee will be easily able to find 8 teams who have better metrics than UC. For example, KenPom has UC at 20 - that's not going to significantly change.
 
I'll take that bet. I think if we win out we're a #3. Any loss pushes us to the #4/#5 line.

The committee will be easily able to find 8 teams who have better metrics than UC. For example, KenPom has UC at 20 - that's not going to significantly change.

You could be right but the committee would not only look at metrics but ranking, outstanding win loss totals, conference champs, and tourney champs as part of their evaluation. Good wins, bad losses, current streaks would also be a part of the equation and we would look pretty good there. I would find it hard to believe we could be ranked 6th or higher in the country and win both championships and still be penalized too bad for metrics.

They would have some questions to answer.
 
I'll take that bet. I think if we win out we're a #3. Any loss pushes us to the #4/#5 line.

The committee will be easily able to find 8 teams who have better metrics than UC. For example, KenPom has UC at 20 - that's not going to significantly change.

It would be best if we improve our metrics by taking care of business of course. SMU has been steadily on the rise because they are playing better basketball than we have recently. The fall off from Evans and some of our other guards haven't been helping our metrics.

A convincing and efficient road win against SMU alone would shoot us up probably about 5 spots in metrics. But we need our guards to step it up. If they continue playing average and we just squeak out wins...you could be right. We need to start dominating more...I can agree with that.
 
I'll take that bet. I think if we win out we're a #3. Any loss pushes us to the #4/#5 line.

The committee will be easily able to find 8 teams who have better metrics than UC. For example, KenPom has UC at 20 - that's not going to significantly change.

If the Bearcats go undefeated in conference play including winning the league title, which probably means beating SMU 3 times, the Bearcats will be a 2 seed with an outside shot at a 1 seed (like a 1% chance) depending on what else happens around the country. You can't control your league and league schedule and I don't think the committee will punish UC for that. OOC UC played a good schedule and the committee should hopefully take into account those douche bags from Michigan backing out at the last minute. Win out and get a 2. Lose a game or two and get a 3.
 
If the Bearcats go undefeated in conference play including winning the league title, which probably means beating SMU 3 times, the Bearcats will be a 2 seed with an outside shot at a 1 seed (like a 1% chance) depending on what else happens around the country. You can't control your league and league schedule and I don't think the committee will punish UC for that. OOC UC played a good schedule and the committee should hopefully take into account those douche bags from Michigan backing out at the last minute. Win out and get a 2. Lose a game or two and get a 3.

Good point Jason! I forgot we would likely get 2 wins over SMU in this scenario.
 
You could be right but the committee would not only look at metrics but ranking, outstanding win loss totals, conference champs, and tourney champs as part of their evaluation. Good wins, bad losses, current streaks would also be a part of the equation and we would look pretty good there. I would find it hard to believe we could be ranked 6th or higher in the country and win both championships and still be penalized too bad for metrics.

They would have some questions to answer.

I would argue that if UC is close to a 2 seed they will get the benefit of the doubt. It seems the committee is afraid of appearing Power 5 biased, so UC will get a seed even if their metrics don't justify it. That way they can point to UC when the bubble isn't kind to the mid majors.
 
If the Bearcats go undefeated in conference play including winning the league title, which probably means beating SMU 3 times, the Bearcats will be a 2 seed with an outside shot at a 1 seed (like a 1% chance) depending on what else happens around the country. You can't control your league and league schedule and I don't think the committee will punish UC for that. OOC UC played a good schedule and the committee should hopefully take into account those douche bags from Michigan backing out at the last minute. Win out and get a 2. Lose a game or two and get a 3.

Yeah we would be on a 25 game winning streak too. But it will all sort itself out. Just fine that we are even having the convo instead of worrying about an 8/9 game.
 
Yeah we would be on a 25 game winning streak too. But it will all sort itself out. Just fine that we are even having the convo instead of worrying about an 8/9 game.

Agree completely. Speculating what seed will get between 1-4 is fine with me anytime haha
 
3-4 losses? What you been smoking? I'd say 2 max at this point.

Look at it this way we have 7 regular season games left our record against teams we have left to play is drum roll...................

6-0

We haven't played Memphis, but that game is at home . (That's a win). So anybody that thinks we lose more than 2 games is just hoping we lose or just a plain pessimist.
 
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