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bearcat jeff said:
I have always said Mick is responsible for the bottom line and everything you said I feel the same about. I'm just not going to bitch and moan and talk about how bad things are till the season plays out and we see the final result.
Last season this coach got 26 wins from a team many on here said wouldn't win 15. I'm willing to see how he responds. He responded pretty well to adversity last season.
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What exactly is the point of this site then?

I wouldnt call what I'm doing bitching. I would call it concern and when things are not going as expected I will voice my opinion. It is called the real world. In any job people have they are criticized. Being paid as well as he is, I expect wins over Presbyterian and Marshall and I expect to watch a motivated team play each night

I recall when things were going well last year, I got on hear and said Mick is doing a good job. It was good to see players playing hard and a transition game. Well, that is not happening at the MOMENT and if or when he turns it around, I will be the first to acknowledge it
 
You're missing my point R2G. I'm not talking about concerns or even complaints. I'm referring to those people who bitch non stop and never see any good. I'm critical when warranted and right now criticism is warranted in regard to this team.

You have people on here that give this coach no credit. Last season is a perfect example. He won 26 games and took his team to the NCAA and on a game. Again, that was with a team a lot of people on this site said wouldn't win 15 games. Still they have him no credit. It drives me nuts!

Criticize where warranted and give credit where it's deserved. Be critical of Vaughns senior year but give him credit for last season. He proved he can overcome adversity and he proved he could bring a team together.

If he fails this year so be it. Bash the hell out of him. I thought this team should win 25-26 games. If it don't it lies at Micks feet. There is plenty of season left. Be rightfully concerned. Don't write the season off and say the coach isn't capable of turning it around when he has proven he is.
 
bearcat jeff said:
You're missing my point R2G. I'm not talking about concerns or even complaints. I'm referring to those people who bitch non stop and never see any good. I'm critical when warranted and right now criticism is warranted in regard to this team.

You have people on here that give this coach no credit. Last season is a perfect example. He won 26 games and took his team to the NCAA and on a game. Again, that was with a team a lot of people on this site said wouldn't win 15 games. Still they have him no credit. It drives me nuts!

Criticize where warranted and give credit where it's deserved. Be critical of Vaughns senior year but give him credit for last season. He proved he can overcome adversity and he proved he could bring a team together.

If he fails this year so be it. Bash the hell out of him. I thought this team should win 25-26 games. If it don't it lies at Micks feet. There is plenty of season left. Be rightfully concerned. Don't write the season off and say the coach isn't capable of turning it around when he has proven he is.
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I said before this season even started that this was going to be a big year. Not only for the team, but for the city. After a great season last year, this was going to be the year to bring the buzz back to the Nati. Well, I live in the present as non of us have a glass ball and losing to Presbyterian and Marshall is creating buzz in the wrong sense.

If it is so hard to replace Biggie, Darnell, Larry and Bishop (who seemed to be suspended and caused problems a lot) then Mick has not done his job coaching or recruiting at this point in time.

Side note: I need to get to a 1000 replies to be eligable for Cinci Pro Sports Mod. So please reply :D
 
All good points that I can see credibility in them. It isn't the talent it's the experience that's hard to replace.
 
ND is in a close one with Maine

Huggins vs Frank Martin at 9

Could be another rough night for the BE
 
bearcat jeff said:
All good points that I can see credibility in them. It isn't the talent it's the experience that's hard to replace.
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No question, but having the core of the team back from last year, I felt the offseason was going to be enough to develop those younger guys. Atleast to the point where they would have some impact, especially with the weak schedule. I feel Mick is too conservative with letting freshman contribute. Let the guys play. Otherwise how are they supposed to gain experience The offense can't be any worse and from Micks postgame comments the defense could use some effort. What better way than have young guys go in there and compete. Its not only for this year, but the next. Build a program
 
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ready2go said:
No question, but having the core of the team back from last year, I felt the offseason was going to be enough to develop those younger guys. Atleast to the point where they would have some impact, especially with the weak schedule. I feel Mick is too conservative with letting freshman contribute. Let the guys play. Otherwise how are they supposed to gain experience The offense can't be any worse and from Micks postgame comments the defense could use some effort. What better way than have young guys go in there and compete. Its not only for this year, but the next. Build a program
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You're saying everything I agree with. I've said from jump you're not scoring 70 a game without bench production. They have to play to improve. It doesn't change the fact that this isn't college football. The season won't be decided for 2 1/2 months. I'm extremely disappointed in the upperclasmens play. Especially the effort.
 
DontMissHim said:
Sean Kilpatrick calls out Tu Holloway. Says he is better then Tu and Tu wouldn't even start at UC.

I love it.

https://twitter.com/#!/slrussell/status/144963771083915264
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I know some Xavier fans will try to use this as a battling cry of disrespect but Furman baited him into the response.

If he says Tu would start for UC he is saying he is better than Cash. No way he says that even if he believe it.

Again what do you want him to say? Yes he is better than me and yes he would start for us? Nope. No problem.
 
Thegreatone said:
I know some Xavier fans will try to use this as a battling cry of disrespect but Furman baited him into the response.

If he says Tu would start for UC he is saying he is better than Cash. No way he says that even if he believe it.

Again what do you want him to say? Yes he is better than me and yes he would start for us? Nope. No problem.
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I don't care if he was baited into it. I would rather he wasn't, I love the emotion. I would love to see trash talk between the teams via twitter. That would be awesome.
 
ready2go said:
:rolleyes:
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When has taking sh<t before a crosstown shootout worked for us? Terry Nelson? No. Eric Hicks and Jason Maxiell with david west? No

I don't careif he was baited or not. I dont care if its true or not. Why give an all american guard and guy their team rallies around, the fan base, and the team extra motivation on their home court?

The way to win this game is to stick to micks gameplan. Not create a more hostile environment and fire up their leader and team

I'm with mick. There is no upside to the comments
 
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I wish he didnt say it. But he did and I dont think his intent was to bash Tu. Tu will use it as motivation. Ok, adds to the story line.
 
It doesn't matter if he was baited. He should have replied with something like: Tu is a great player and we hope to come out with the win.
 
more cowbell said:
It doesn't matter if he was baited. He should have replied with something like: Tu is a great player and we hope to come out with the win.
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I love it. Let's bring some juice back to this rivalry that hasn't really felt quite the same since the Huggs era. Everyone on this board is claiming Holloway can't shoot so hopefully these comments motivate him to shoot even more shots. Hopefully he misses all of them.

I'm with Killa on this one.

Shannon Russell, what a typical X girl.
 
BearcatMick said:
I dont. Mick is absolutely furious. We can't be too emotional in this game. We need to follow micks brilliant gameplan from last year.

This is stupid and not necessary
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Mick should not have let him do that. All media inquiries are supposed to go through Mick. You should ask him about that.
 
I love it!! Tu's major weakness is his ego. Make him press to prove himself. have confidence in your team and your abilitites. He gave Tu props too. I have no problem with this at all and I think UC will play their best game of the year. does that equate to a win? My head still says no, but my heart says upset and back on the national stage. UC has everything to gain and they know it.
 
BearcatMick said:
When has taking sh<t before a crosstown shootout worked for us? Terry Nelson? No. Eric Hicks and Jason Maxiell with david west? No

I don't careif he was baited or not. I dont care if its true or not. Why give an all american guard and guy their team rallies around, the fan base, and the team extra motivation on their home court?

The way to win this game is to stick to micks gameplan. Not create a more hostile environment and fire up their leader and team

I'm with mick. There is no upside to the comments
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Those were different teams. This team Mick has has shown zero emotion all year and zero passion. Perhaps this will wake them up.

Between the execution from the players and Micks brilliant game plans so far it has cost them 2 games so far, so let the players play.

Bearcatjeff is right, the best way to get to a player with a huge ego is to get into his head
 
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