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Dan_Hoard Dan Hoard
At half: Pitt 40 UC 23. Ashton Gibbs has 18 points...UC's starting backcourt (Dixon & Wright) has 0 on 0-6 shooting.


pauldehnerjr Paul Dehner Jr.
Bearcats with 11 turnovers at half. Only three BE teams have had that many against Pitt in an entire game this year.
 
Open shots?

No one is open.

Are you serious? We had so many open shots I couldn't believe it! Larry misses probably 6 open three's, SK misses a wide open three, we miss two dunks and an easy layup from DD, multiple open looks from inside the free throw line! Dear lord if we make just those 3 layups we are in the game! What game were you watching if you didn't think we had open looks?
 
Not beating anybody shooting 33%. 22 offensive rebounds and you have to take advantage of that. Showed heart. Couldn't shoot from anywhere.
 
I really have no idea either. My husband was screaming that the entire game. I have to wonder if this team doesnt have the talent to press good teams.

One good thing. The Cats did look stronger inside, even without Gates. Very frustrating game though. Not a lot to say about it that is positive. Hard day to be a fan.
 
It's hard to press when you don't make baskets...or free throws for that matter.

UC didn't finish around the rim (especially the first 30 min), nor did they help themselves from behind the arc.

The defense wasn't bad, but MC MUST bring in guys who can shoot, as well as bigs who can contribute inside.

Different year, same story. That said, I guess it could've been worse, and the team showed heart.
 
This is how far our fan base has fallen. We no longer expect to win and assume we will lose against the good teams. Personally, I expect to win every game and am disappointed when we don't.
 
A difference between Hoping to win and expecting to win. If you expect these bearcats to win every game you are not being very realistic at all.

Also- In order to press you need to make baskets. Its very difficult to press off of missed shots or even turn overs.
 
No that's the reality of the situation. Pitt had won 51 of 53 at home and the reality was they'd have to play perfect to win. We are closer but not there I get that.
 
This is how far our fan base has fallen. We no longer expect to win and assume we will lose against the good teams. Personally, I expect to win every game and am disappointed when we don't.

you will continue to feel that way until Cronin is gone.
 
Was really proud of the guys effort tonight. The low post offense was so much better without Gates in the line up. They have 3 winnable games in a row coming up (@DePaul, St. Johns and UL). I hope they play well going forward. Even I, someone who believed Cronin should have been fired after last season, cannot be disappointed that they lost this game. I liked what I saw from Jackson and Biggie and that bodes well going forward... that really was a no lose situation type game. Now if they slip up in one of the next two I will be extremely upset.
 
“The problem with those 23 offensive rebounds is that we only scored 15 second-chance points,” said UC coach Mick Cronin. “You’ve got to convert. You’re not going to beat Pitt if you don’t convert. You’ve got to put the ball in the basket and we didn’t do it.”

UC shot only 33.3 percent from the field, went 14 of 23 from the free throw line and missed at least five layups in the first half alone, including one at the start of the game by Dion Dixon, who was shut out for the second time in the last four games.

The Bearcats also hurt their cause by turning the ball over 16 times.

“I think in the first half we were trying too much to get buckets too quick,” said forward Rashad Bishop, “so we were taking bad shots and turning the ball over. That’s what really started their run.”

The Bearcats trailed by 17 at halftime after shooting 30 percent in the first half.

Pitt led, 15-6, when UC rallied to get within three on a Larry Davis basket. A Davis 3-pointer kept the Bearcats close at 24-19 with 6:29 left in the half, but Pitt closed the half by outscoring UC, 16-4.

After building a 46-23 lead on a Gibbs 3-pointer early in the second half, Pitt went five and a half minutes without scoring, allowing UC to trim the deficit to 16, but the Panthers pulled away again.

The Bearcats made a late run to get within eight points with 39.5 seconds remaining to make the final score more respectable.

“I was really proud of the guys in the second half,” Cronin said. “We became a much better team. We learned a lot about ourselves and our character the way we cut the lead to eight. That doesn’t happen to them in their own gym.”

Asked if he thought the Bearcats would have had a better chance to win with Gates on the floor, Cronin said, “Absolutely not. Not one little bit. I really believe that it did not have any effect on the outcome of the game.”

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20110205/SPT0101/302050029/1064/Panthers-put-away-Bearcats
 
Here's a very troubling stat. Cincinnati fell to 0-4 against ranked teams and have lost 17 straight conference road games against ranked opponents per ESPN. That in a nutshell illustrates their inability to raise their play. That was my argument at the end of last season. We will definitely explore this further in coming weeks. Those wins generate excitement.
 
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I'm not sure they are able to raise their play beyond what we've seen.

The saying "Those who can.....Do" comes to mind. No knock on the team or Cronin, but sometimes you max out on what you are given.
Cronin isn't going to turn into John Wooden tomorrow, and Gates/Wilks/Thomas aren't going to suddenly go off for 20 against a top15 team.
 
I'm not sure they are able to raise their play beyond what we've seen.

The saying "Those who can.....Do" comes to mind. No knock on the team or Cronin, but sometimes you max out on what you are given.
Cronin isn't going to turn into John Wooden tomorrow, and Gates/Wilks/Thomas aren't going to suddenly go off for 20 against a top15 team.

That was my point in the other thread. People need to realize there is a ceiling based on talent. UC's talent isn't there to compete with these teams on the road. At home they have a better shot but have to play well to win.
 
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