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Why?
Bc you said accomplishing 31-3 is harder now, which is why you're disappointed. If you can't prove it, you come across as just making up a moving target as you go to justify your disappointment.
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I can think of a better example in Conf USA.
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Your point remains though. It was a very uncharacteristic AST/TO game for us. We went all UConn in that game. #Built4Banners
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Please pull up the post saying this. I don't recall anyone saying 31-3. I said 27-4 regular season and I don't remember anyone coming in with a record better than that in just the regular season, let alone the conference tournament championship beyond that. If you did say it, then I will stand corrected. But I'd like to see it.
We thought Florida and UCLA would be better. We thought UCONN was Better. X is better than I thought. I have no Idea what I predicted, don't really care, I think it was around 27-4 or something like that but I did say if we want to have a special season, we have to win those games in December. The point is things can change
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I can think of a better example in Conf USA.
Memphis was undefeated for like 2-3 years in Conf USA after everyone left. this is what i was referring to.
Please pull up the post saying this. I don't recall anyone saying 31-3. I said 27-4 regular season and I don't remember anyone coming in with a record better than that in just the regular season, let alone the conference tournament championship beyond that. If you did say it, then I will stand corrected. But I'd like to see it.
I think I originally put my bar around 25-6. Then I adjusted to 26-5 after someone asked if anyone would like to make an adjustment (I think you may have asked that). That is about where I stand now...but I would like to keep tweaking my number as we go...lol! My original prediction will still be there but I don't mind making new predictions after different intervals in the season.
26-5 is my current position...and I think that would be pretty good.
Memphis was undefeated for like 2-3 years in Conf USA after everyone left. this is what i was referring to.
We don't play in a conference that is that bad. Why is this a good analogy?
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We don't play in a conference that is that bad. Why is this a good analogy?
Last year it was close. It's a good analogy because they are teams in smaller conferences that had to dominate it to get respect. Like we are going to have to do.
We don't play in a conference that is that bad. Why is this a good analogy?
Would you rather us be in those conference running the table or maybe 1 loss?
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Would you rather us be in those conference running the table or maybe 1 loss?
no, I'd rather play the hardest schedule in america every year if your asking me. I don't mind losing to good teams. Me and Bearcatboy had this argument in the summer. But if you only have a couple opportunities and don't win them, it sucks and is disappointing.
Last year it was close. It's a good analogy because they are teams in smaller conferences that had to dominate it to get respect. Like we are going to have to do.
C-USA when we went to Beast was probably ranked between 10-13 as a conference when Calipari had some great years. I think we are closer to ranked 7 year in and year out sparking some analysts to wonder if we need to call it the power 7. If you think this is a fair analogy between CUSA (post exodus), WCC and MVC I will have to respectfully disagree.
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C-USA when we went to Beast was probably ranked between 10-13 as a conference when Calipari had some great years. I think we are closer to ranked 7 year in and year out sparking some analysts to wonder if we need to call it the power 7. If you think this is a fair analogy between CUSA (post exodus), WCC and MVC I will have to respectfully disagree.
You are getting to hung up on the numbers. Ok, it is not exactly the same. You got me
You are getting to hung up on the numbers. Ok, it is not exactly the same. You got me
You were saying we need to dominate a conference like certain other teams dominated theirs. Those conferences were so much easier to dominate. Take the numbers out...that is the reality. This isn't a gotcha thing.
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You were saying we need to dominate a conference like certain other teams dominated theirs. Those conferences were so much easier to dominate. Take the numbers out...that is the reality. This isn't a gotcha thing.
Maybe we don’t have to go undeafted but we can’t lose more than 1-2 games for a great seed. Last year we lost 2 and got a 6 seed. So it is a little like that.
You were saying we need to dominate a conference like certain other teams dominated theirs. Those conferences were so much easier to dominate. Take the numbers out...that is the reality. This isn't a gotcha thing.
We had 2 losses in conference last year. Conference rank 7. The winner of the conference also had 2 losses I think. We split with them. They were very good. We didn't win the tourney. Not great in tourney...but definitely not bad I don't think.
Do we want to do better? Of course. Did we go into the year thinking 2 losses would win the title? Yes. It didn't.
Literally said numerous times the season is not over. Does it help losing those games, no. The Wofford example is an out-liar. These games rarely happen and you know it. It's why this one game keeps getting brought up. To me, do we have to be perfect? no. But we have to be really close to perfect to have the type of season we all hoped. If we aren't, we will get another 6 seed. We have to be Memphis in C-USA, Gonzaga, Wichita before this year. That is why I had high expectations. I thought we were capable of having a 31-3 type year. We still can but it's going to be a lot harder now. This is why I am somewhat disappointed. (so far)
Duke lost to BC, Kansas lost to Washington, Purdue lost to WKY, Miami's only lost is to NMST, Arizona lost 3 in a row. I wouldn't call it an outlier, is it the worst lost of the year for a til team, yeah. But many teams above us have lost worse games than we have. And do we have 4 losses already? And how 31-3? Only 31 regular season games.. so 28-3? Or did you think we were going 30-1 regular season. Either way we still could end up with 3 losses, but I never heard you say that before, until you thought we werent. Just saying. Most of us optomistcly thought 28-3 or 27-4 were most likely and that will still probably be the case.
Maybe we don’t have to go undeafted but we can’t lose more than 1-2 games for a great seed. Last year we lost 2 and got a 6 seed. So it is a little like that.
It is a little like that but not a lot like that. We could easily see 4 bids this year in the AAC. 5 if we are lucky. We lose 2 games this year and we probably move up at least 2 seed lines if not 3. 2 games lost this year is the same record with a bump in seed by 2 or 3 spots.
Against FLA...we were 7 assists shy of our next worst performance. At 2 points per assist that would be 14 points. Shave 6 turnovers at 1 ppp and you have just made up 20 points. Even if you low ball it we are going to get 15 more points out of this and we are still at 11 assists to 16 turnovers...which is still horrible. That doesn't even account for poor shooting. .267 from 3 and .426 overall. It was the perfect storm.
So we played horrible and we didn't win...but we were still very close which means the potential was there for a massacre on a good night. I think that's the point to focus on right now. We responded against UCLA and MIss st. I can live with that.
Exactly, we played absolutely horrible and still almost beat a good team in Florida. I think that should be seen as a positive instead of negative. Of course I'm disappointed we weren't able to finish that game, but like you said it was an overall horrible performance and we still managed to be a basket away with a minute something left. And I don't think it was because of floridas D or us not being able to play a big game, I think we just played bad, plain and simple.
no, I'd rather play the hardest schedule in america every year if your asking me. I don't mind losing to good teams. Me and Bearcatboy had this argument in the summer. But if you only have a couple opportunities and don't win them, it sucks and is disappointing.
Quote of the day, you don't mind losing to good teams. We been on a conversation for days n days because clearly you don't like when we lose to GOOD teams lol.