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And I harbor no resentment towards Mick Cronin for leaving Cincy for Louisville when he did. Now if he left his current position to take over the head spot at Louisville... that would be a different story. ;)
 
Amberlycolonel said:
In some people's minds, a lot because the thief is now our head coach. I will be the first to admit that I made sure I attended the first game he came back to FTA as a Card just to boo him for what he did. When I found out he was our new head coach, I just shook my head. Now, I just want a winning program but I will never be one to support him. The program, definitely.
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oh boo hoo. So he left to be an assistant coach for a hall of famer and a coach who is great at placing quality assistants in head coaching gigs. I was mad at him at the time too but looking back I realized he made the best choice for himself. It was a no brainer. Where are all the successful coaches under Huggins? Which ones got hired while working under Huggins? Exactly. Anyone with half a brain would have gotten out while they could. Dan Peters got out too. Huggins threw him under the bus and he admitted he got out to remove himself from Huggins.
 
JasonS said:
Oh come on. We all know that Cronin can't recruit for himself and Huggins and Pitino were the only reasons he could recruit before. Obviously, he couldn't land and still can't land any talent. :rolleyes: (Obviously this is sarcasm and you make very good points. Excellent post.)
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Thanks. Just trying to bring some facts into the debate. Cronin has been called lots of names on many boards, but this is the first time I have seen him being called a thief. I guess all college football coaches must be thief's, as they continue recruiting even after a prospect commits to a school and get them to flip before signing day. So maybe being a thief wasn't an insult, but is a compliment. He is like another illustrious UC alum, Urban Meyer.
 
bearcat1 said:
Thanks. Just trying to bring some facts into the debate. Cronin has been called lots of names on many boards, but this is the first time I have seen him being called a thief. I guess all college football coaches must be thief's, as they continue recruiting even after a prospect commits to a school and get them to flip before signing day. So maybe being a thief wasn't an insult, but is a compliment. He is like another illustrious UC alum, Urban Meyer.
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This is the same guy that called him a racist against his own race, so please take what he says with a grain of salt.
 
Amberlycolonel said:
It was not the fact he took a different job, Jason. It was the fact that he took 2 recruits from our program while doing it. And going to a hated rival did not help. I wish you could see that, but you obviously do not.
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Total BS, Mick did not take any recruits from UC.
 
ralph1950 said:
Total BS, Mick did not take any recruits from UC.
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Francisco Garcia and Taquon Dean both were locked to come to UC . Cronin was Huggin's contact with both of those players. When Cronin bolted to Pitino, it was with the understanding that his 2 recruits would be coming with him. Being Cronin is God to you Ralph, I assumed you would have known this.
 
Amberlycolonel said:
I do hear that from people and the fact that Cronin was present when it all went down, but I hear more about his Louisville defection. Imagine if Savino took off to Xavier to be their assistant coach and took Lawrence and Strickland with him. How would everyone feel towards Savino then? Then imagine him coming back 3 years later as our head coach. Do you think he would be well received?
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It wouldn't bother me at all. It's called business. People do it every single day in the real world. I am sorry you and others got your feelings hurt, but in the real world people accept opportunities that will help them get to where they want to be in life. I will believe as long as I draw breath that those who have resented Mick Cronin from day 1 are those who aren't UC fans but were Bob Huggins fans.

Yes, I also believe Cronin could market the program and himself better, but so could the school. On that I agree with you. I don't think he's the best thing since sliced bread, but he is not the incompetent some of you want to paint either. I ask again, where were the big names you all speak of when the job was open? Again I say, if the job were to ever open again, there will be better candidates, and there will be better candidates because of what Mick Cronin has done. Love him or hate him, that is the simple truth.
 
Amberlycolonel said:
Francisco Garcia and Taquon Dean both were locked to come to UC . Cronin was Huggin's contact with both of those players. When Cronin bolted to Pitino, it was with the understanding that his 2 recruits would be coming with him. Being Cronin is God to you Ralph, I assumed you would have known this.
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Total BS, those guys were never "locked" to UC. They went to U of L to play for Rick, Huggins never had a chance for those guys when Rick took the Louisville job.
 
ralph1950 said:
Total BS, those guys were never "locked" to UC. They went to U of L to play for Rick, Huggins never had a chance for those guys when Rick took the Louisville job.
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This is a moot point on either side. It was MORE THAN A DECADE AGO! Move on people.
 
Guys this is a dead horse. Mick is the coach and will continue to be. He has done a good job rebuilding the program and the fan base is starting to recognize that. Attendance went up last year and with a top 25 recruiting class on the way I'll assume it will rise again this year. I no I am buying season tickets and that is considering I think the Shoe is the pits as far as D1facilities go.
 
Too much dramatics. Barring an unexpected bolt to another school, mick will be a bearcat head coach for life

Although If I were mick I would seriously consider other jobs with the hostility I've seen on here, on radio shows and in general from uc "fans"

Mick is a once in a century coach. Respect him for what he's done for this program
 
Amberlycolonel said:
Francisco Garcia and Taquon Dean both were locked to come to UC . Cronin was Huggin's contact with both of those players. When Cronin bolted to Pitino, it was with the understanding that his 2 recruits would be coming with him. Being Cronin is God to you Ralph, I assumed you would have known this.
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So you are saying that these 2 were committed to Cronin and not to UC or Huggins. That they would gone wherever Cronin went? Lucky for them that he went to Louisville and not to NKU or Mt. St. Joes, as they would have been playing there! They were also freshman when he left for Murray State. Why didn't they follow him there, as their focus was to play for him? They still had 3 years of eligibilty left at that time. Looking at Garcia's Rival page, there is no mention of UC as one of the schools he was considering. If he was such a lock to come to UC, wouldn't they at least have mentioned UC as one of the teams he was considering? I can't find the list of schools that Dean was considering at that time.

Maybe you can help the board with who is responsible for the thievary of Chane Behanan. He publically committed to UC and ended up at UL. I would love to go to FTA to boo the assistant who stole Chane from us.
 
I like Mick. He's honest, humble, fiery, and has beaten some good coaches, sometimes consistently times. (Pitino, Thompson III, Jay Wright) Let's be honest, his team had a shaky offense that really just had a meltdown following Wright's injury. looking back on the season, i see a decent team that overachieved at times while also underachieving following Wright's injury. Mick's bringing in a good class, let's see how it plays out.
 
I keep seeing people blame the 2nd half lack of results(at least Cash's numbers) solely on Cashmere's injury. I don't think it was a coincidence everyone's numbers, including Cash's, went down substantially during conference play. The competition became tougher and that was the main reason why Cash struggled. Big East coaches know every team in and out through scouting by the time conference games roll around. The defensive intensity and schemes became tougher. No longer could UC "Out Athlete" the other teams. That's when coaching comes into play. Also, This team's OOC schedule did them no favors in preparing for Big East play.

Blaming solely the injury for Cash's woes is just convenience. I would argue tough Big East play, tough defenses, great opposing teams, Great opposing team gameplans, familiarity, and the physical play are the main reason for his struggles. Not his injury
 
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I keep seeing people blame the 2nd half lack of results(at least Cash's numbers) solely on Cashmere's injury. I don't think it was a coincidence everyone's numbers, including Cash's, went down substantially during conference play. The competition became tougher and that was the main reason why Cash struggled. Big East coaches know every team in and out through scouting by the time conference games roll around. The defensive intensity and schemes became tougher. No longer could UC "Out Athlete" the other teams. That's when coaching comes into play. Also, This team's OOC schedule did them no favors in preparing for Big East play.

Blaming solely the injury for Cash's woes is just convenience. I would argue tough Big East play, tough defenses, great opposing teams, Great opposing team gameplans, familiarity, and the physical play are the main reason for his struggles. Not his injury
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So let me get this straight, according to you UC didn't play anyone good until Big East play and therefore Cash's injury is irrelevant since it obviously had no effect on outcomes of any close games against good teams? Is that right?

Good thing Oregon is not in the Sweet 16 and Iowa State didn't play well and get jobbed. I don't know how many games you watched but if you couldn't see a difference between Cash pre injury and post injury, then you are either blind or only seeing what you want to see. Oh, and I guess Cash separating his shoulder 6 times and not having full range of motion was a mirage too, right?
 

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