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When your older players don’t play well, it really hurts the team. I like our young guys but they shouldn’t be expected to be the best players. It’s their 5th game.
 
Our defense is so bad, but USF is terrible on defense as well. We are making threes at a very high rate, they are dominating us on the boards. If we start missing threes, it may spell trouble.
 
Let’s be honest, Keith and Vogt have not been good this year. If this is what they are giving us, it’s going to be a long year.
 
Saunders, Eason, Harvey, Davenport, and even maw is a really good starting point. Need more though
 
I just tuned in watched part of the last two minutes to find USF jumping all around Vogt getting three offensive rebounds while he stood there like a pole. Then they blow by him like he’s nothing for the go ahead basket to take a lead into the half. Whatever he gives us on offense is not worth what we loose in rebounding and defense.
 
Let’s be honest, Keith and Vogt have not been good this year. If this is what they are giving us, it’s going to be a long year.

Vogt has 10 pots, 4 boards and 3 assist. Just glad he’s not in foul trouble because Rap is awful
 
Put Eason at the 5, JD at the 4 and just take our lumps getting out rebounded by playing small.... when we play big we have the charmin brothers playing with Vogt who’s has regressed and Rap who flat out sucks and then complains literally after he gets beat and fouls
 
Vogt has 10 pots, 4 boards and 3 assist. Just glad he’s not in foul trouble because Rap is awful

Vogt is having a good game so far. I'm guessing USF starts doubling him in the 2nd half, or at least playing some help defense. USF seems to be pretty clueless as to whom on our team is good at scoring.
 
Vogt has 10 pots, 4 boards and 3 assist. Just glad he’s not in foul trouble because Rap is awful

If you’ve watch this game and thought Vogt isn’t struggling, I don’t know what to tell you. They are rebounding at will. Scoring in the paint at will and attacking him every time down the floor.
 
If you’ve watch this game and thought Vogt isn’t struggling, I don’t know what to tell you. They are rebounding at will. Scoring in the paint at will and attacking him every time down the floor.

I'd still argue his is having a relatively good game for him, at least he is scoring on offense. Though that is because pretty much every other team we have played has followed the recipe of a quick hard double when Vogt touches the ball. USF is playing him straight up 1v1.

Pretty much every team attacks Vogt most times down the floor, they all know he is the weakest link in our (already weak) defense. The rebounding is a problem, but I expect it will be one all year - at least any time we face a capable offensive rebounding team.
 
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