What I am hearing: Conference Realignment

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Not sure where you get all this inside info from Ralph but thank God for your endless knowledge on all things conference realignment.

This is quote from ESPN's story on Mizzou's chancelor's meeting...
If the Big 12 wanted to stretch farther east, Louisville, Cincinnati and West Virginia of the Big East could be targets. There has also been speculation that the Big 12 could pursue BYU, TCU, SMU, and Houston.

One Big East coach feared the worst, telling ESPN.com via text message, "the big east is finished."

Guess that Big East coach doesn't know as much as Ralph.
 
UCBearcats said:
Not sure where you get all this inside info from Ralph but thank God for your endless knowledge on all things conference realignment.

This is quote from ESPN's story on Mizzou's chancelor's meeting...
If the Big 12 wanted to stretch farther east, Louisville, Cincinnati and West Virginia of the Big East could be targets. There has also been speculation that the Big 12 could pursue BYU, TCU, SMU, and Houston.

One Big East coach feared the worst, telling ESPN.com via text message, "the big east is finished."

Guess that Big East coach doesn't know as much as Ralph.
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It is the Big East who will be inviting Kansas, Kansas State, and Iowa State to join the Big East should Missouri leave the Big 12. Everyone knows the Big 12 is not stable with Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, and Texas Tech wanting to leave. UC, UofL, and WVU are 100% committed to the Big East. Rick Pitino stated UConn leaving the Big East to join the ACC would be "the dumbest thing ever", that statement also applies to Uof L, UC, WVU etc.

You have to take anything on ESPN with a grain of salt. ESPN was behind the move of PITT and Syracuse to the ACC. The Big East turned down a $1.2 billion TV contract from ESPN which got ESPN upset because they very well may lose the Big East to NBC's new cable sports network.
 
If schools are going to leave the Big 12 it will be before Dec 1 when they are effectively locked into TV contracts.

UC will look to get into Big 12 if WVU, RU, and UCONN keep beggin other conferences to let them in. UC will just do it in a respectful way,
 
Thegreatone said:
If schools are going to leave the Big 12 it will be before Dec 1 when they are effectively locked into TV contracts.

UC will look to get into Big 12 if WVU, RU, and UCONN keep beggin other conferences to let them in. UC will just do it in a respectful way,
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Why would UC and UofL want to join a conference that Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State will be leaving?
 
ralph1950 said:
It is the Big East who will be inviting Kansas, Kansas State, and Iowa State to join the Big East should Missouri leave the Big 12. Everyone knows the Big 12 is not stable with Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, and Texas Tech wanting to leave. UC, UofL, and WVU are 100% committed to the Big East. Rick Pitino stated UConn leaving the Big East to join the ACC would be "the dumbest thing ever", that statement also applies to Uof L, UC, WVU etc.

You have to take anything on ESPN with a grain of salt. ESPN was behind the move of PITT and Syracuse to the ACC. The Big East turned down a $1.2 billion TV contract from ESPN which got ESPN upset because they very well may lose the Big East to NBC's new cable sports network.
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You're kidding, right?
 
I don't know, I guess I just thought that with the contract the BE has with ESPN, and how much ESPN talks about the greatness of it's basketball conference, they wouldn't try and break that apart.

Then again, it goes to show it's all about football and money. Basketball has no impact on these conference shake ups.
 
Kingsley Court said:
I don't know, I guess I just thought that with the contract the BE has with ESPN, and how much ESPN talks about the greatness of it's basketball conference, they wouldn't try and break that apart.

Then again, it goes to show it's all about football and money. Basketball has no impact on these conference shake ups.
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ESPN is paying the ACC more than the Big East. ESPN was shocked when 11 Big East teams got into the NCAA Tourney and it became clear that the Big East is a much better basketball conference than the ACC. ESPN paid each ACC school an additional $5 million over the life of the contract to add Syracuse and Pitt to the ACC. ESPN worried over losing the Big East contract to NBC did it to protect their investment in the ACC.
 
It looks like TCU will be headed to the Big 12. With out TCU, Syracuse, and Pitt- The Big East football schools will be: Rutgers, UC, Louisville, WV, Uconn, and South Florida. Can they even have a league of 6? :eek:
 
DontMissHim said:
It looks like TCU will be headed to the Big 12. With out TCU, Syracuse, and Pitt- The Big East football schools will be: Rutgers, UC, Louisville, WV, Uconn, and South Florida. Can they even have a league of 6? :eek:
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The Big East is going to expand, in addition to those 6 they will have East Carolina, Central Florida, Temple, and perhaps Navy (football only) and FIU.
 
ralph1950 said:
The Big East is going to expand, in addition to those 6 they will have East Carolina, Central Florida, Temple, and perhaps Navy (football only) and FIU.
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You actually want to stay in that conference? A few problems with that, IMO:

1) I know the Big East is an AQ for a few more years- but once that contract is up, no chance it gets renewed. UC will be working on borrowed time.

2) Listen, I know all you care about is the AQ, but if this is how the Big East turns out- UC football will be falling. The Move to the Big East was huge for the Football program because the competition was better. Fans like playing it, kids picking schools liked it. The move helped grow the football program. While UC will be in an AQ league- the program as a whole will not get better in this conference.

3) The basketball view. I think UC fans enjoyed being part of the best conference in America. The basketball conference will be extremely watered down. Who the hell wants to buy season tickets to watch those teams every other year.

C-USA II is not a good thing for UC programs, IMO. All this is considering Uconn and WV stay, and they seem to want out. If those programs leave UC NEEDS a Big 12 invite. Big East would break up fast.
 
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Kingsley Court said:
You really believe they would continue to be a BCS conference with those schools?
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Yes as it would be in the BCS's best interest to continue with 6 AQ conferences as it 1) keeps the New York City TV market in play and 2) it keeps Congress off of their backs
 
DontMissHim said:
You actually want to stay in that conference? A few problems with that, IMO:

1) I know the Big East is an AQ for a few more years- but once that contract is up, no chance it gets renewed. UC will be working on borrowed time.

2) Listen, I know all you care about is the AQ, but if this is how the Big East turns out- UC football will be falling. The Move to the Big East was huge for the Football program because the competition was better. Fans like playing it, kids picking schools liked it. The move helped grow the football program. While UC will be in an AQ league- the program as a whole will not get better in this conference.

3) The basketball view. I think UC fans enjoyed being part of the best conference in America. The basketball conference will be extremely watered down. Who the hell wants to buy season tickets to watch those teams every other year.

C-USA II is not a good thing for UC programs, IMO. All this is considering Uconn and WV stay, and they seem to want out. If those programs leave UC NEEDS a Big 12 invite. Big East would break up fast.
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1)Fans are more interested in going to the Orange or Sugar Bowl than how they got there

2) The Big East basketball conference would be UC, UofL, WVU, Marquette, Villanova, St. John's, UConn, Georgetown, Notre Dame, DePaul, Providence, Seton Hall, Temple, ECU, UCF, FIU. Thus, it remains a top tier basketball conference.
 
The television money is shifting to football. The Big East is in danger of losing it's BCS bid in football. They got caught with their pants down and the commish should be fired. It's amazing how weak they look. The vultures are picking the bones and will contiune to pick them dry. Play homer all you want. This is bad bad bad.
 
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