Who takes the last shot?

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Broome. Either by creating for others or himself. He's the real deal. It's that simple.

based on conversations I have had and read by people who have seen him play I believe you to be correct.
I think Cumberland is also capable of that to a point.

 

[UCBearcats]

so nice to hear from you. Lol! I am a member of bearcat journal. There has been much talk concerning his abilities and what he has shown to this point. I am basing my opinion on people who have seen him play many times. To your point I would rather see him myself but I have not been afforded that opportunity. So sorry you find my comment completely ridiculous. Didn't mean to disappoint you.

No one has seen Cane Broome play a real game against real competition in a Bearcats uniform. Anything that is being written or spoken about him at this point is purely speculation.

His numbers at Sacred Heart were strong, but they dipped significantly against the handful of better level opponents they played. Now that he's a couple years removed will he be better because he's grown older? Will he be rusty because he hasn't played in a real game in over a year? Will he struggle to adapt to Mick's system and style of play? Will he excel early on and become the leader of our team??

No one knows the answers to any of these questions, not even the "fine folks" at Bearcatjournal.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

No one has seen Cane Broome play a real game against real competition in a Bearcats uniform. Anything that is being written or spoken about him at this point is purely speculation.

His numbers at Sacred Heart were strong, but they dipped significantly against the handful of better level opponents they played. Now that he's a couple years removed will he be better because he's grown older? Will he be rusty because he hasn't played in a real game in over a year? Will he struggle to adapt to Mick's system and style of play? Will he excel early on and become the leader of our team??

No one knows the answers to any of these questions, not even the "fine folks" at Bearcatjournal.

your certainly entitled to your opinion. You may be underestimating the ability of the folks at bearcatjournal. The constantly evaluate players and have seen him play many times. Again your entitled to your opinion. Far from me to call it completely ridiculous. Time will tell.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

I'm also basing my opinion on what I haven't seen from the other players on the roster.

Cumberland has some ability to do the things I mentioned in my earlier post but I really would like to see how a year in the conditioning program has improved his athleticism. He did show flashes last year.

Evans can shoot but has difficulty creating his shot.

Clark is not the type of player your going to clear a side for and say make a play with the game on the line. I want him crashing the board.

Washington has some post moves but his ability to share the ball is concerning.

The rest of the team at this point I really can't include in the conversation.

 

[rogerOH]

On paper Jacobs has to be the guy at the end of games . He has the handles -the hops- the strength- the size- the experience and most importantly the offensive arsenal. Trouble is there are a lot of intangibles involved and does he want to be that guy that is the reason you won the game or (lost). there are players that thrive on that and players that don't. I want Jacobs to be that guy but only time will tell.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

On paper Jacobs has to be the guy at the end of games . He has the handles -the hops- the strength- the size- the experience and most importantly the offensive arsenal. Trouble is there are a lot of intangibles involved and does he want to be that guy that is the reason you won the game or (lost). there are players that thrive on that and players that don't. I want Jacobs to be that guy but only time will tell.

I would love Evans to add that to his game but I just don't think he has the handles to get that done at the level I would like him to be.

 

[JasonS]

I would love Evans to add that to his game but I just don't think he has the handles to get that done at the level I would like him to be.

The handles? Are you watching the same player I am? If you want to question if he has the mindset to be that guy, fine. To argue he doesn't have the handles is way off in my opinion.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

The handles? Are you watching the same player I am? If you want to question if he has the mindset to be that guy, fine. To argue he doesn't have the handles is way off in my opinion.

Yeah I was going to say that too. He had a jumper vs SMU where he stepped back off of a behind the back dribble. It was beautiful. I'll never question his ball handling. If anything, he is guilty of the Shaq Thomas over-dribbling.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Guys I don't know he just doesn't seem to have the ability to take a guy off the bounce. Maybe its confidence but he just doesn't get fouled enough or get to the rim enough.

 

[JasonS]

Guys I don't know he just doesn't seem to have the ability to take a guy off the bounce. Maybe its confidence but he just doesn't get fouled enough or get to the rim enough.

That's different than not having handles. Jake is slick with the ball but he has not shown that he wants to drive and get fouled. That's the next step in the evolution of his game.

 

[Patrick Bateman]

Some good points in this thread.
Will Broome live up to the hype or he be another in the long line of practice all stars. Jake does have handles and I believe used to be a PG. The thing that Jake lacks is the killer instinct, he would disappear in games last year and Terry would comment that he would not even square to the rim to see if he could attack. I think the guy I want is JC. Cronin has stated many times that he is a gamer and gets stronger as the game goes on. He has a strong feel for the game, a good IQ, good shooter and has a confidence about him.

 

[rogerOH]

The only thing about J.C. that worries me is the mid-range shots-when we are playing on the road and he puts his head down and goes to the rim homeritis will have him in foul trouble- would love for him to pull up for a 8 footer.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Guys yes Evans can dribble the ball but he needs a lot of work using it to get fouled or get to the rim. That is what I mean by improving his handle.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Some good points in this thread.
Will Broome live up to the hype or he be another in the long line of practice all stars. Jake does have handles and I believe used to be a PG. The thing that Jake lacks is the killer instinct, he would disappear in games last year and Terry would comment that he would not even square to the rim to see if he could attack. I think the guy I want is JC. Cronin has stated many times that he is a gamer and gets stronger as the game goes on. He has a strong feel for the game, a good IQ, good shooter and has a confidence about him.

love JC's game. More then anyone on the team I'm excited to see how he progresses in year two.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

The handles? Are you watching the same player I am? If you want to question if he has the mindset to be that guy, fine. To argue he doesn't have the handles is way off in my opinion.

I am watching the same player. The one who defers to others, settles for jumpers and rarely gets to the rim. If he has handles he needs to use them to get fouled on occasion. When you see him do that consistently let me know.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Yeah I was going to say that too. He had a jumper vs SMU where he stepped back off of a behind the back dribble. It was beautiful. I'll never question his ball handling. If anything, he is guilty of the Shaq Thomas over-dribbling.

Shaq was able to get to the rim but rather then draw contact he tried to avoid it. Evans does not get to the rim. What I am hoping to see from Evans this year is a real boost in his game coming from transition baskets. He is good in the open floor going to the hoop on the break. With Broome running the floor I'm hoping to see him getting many easy baskets.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Why is everyone so obsessed with Evans getting to the rim in our halfcourt offense?

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Shaq was able to get to the rim but rather then draw contact he tried to avoid it. Evans does not get to the rim. What I am hoping to see from Evans this year is a real boost in his game coming from transition baskets. He is good in the open floor going to the hoop on the break. With Broome running the floor I'm hoping to see him getting many easy baskets.

I've said this before, but Evans getting to the rim should come without the ball in the halfcourt, by getting offensive rebounds, and by getting out in transition. The everyone stand there while he tries to create off the dribble in the halfcourt thing hasn't led to any kind of efficient offense. Plus he's a great shooter. I don't get how him getting to the rim has become the thing that everyone automatically says.

So I definitely agree with you on the transition part. He's great at that. He can improve some things he's not great at, but it'd also be stupid not to play to his strengths. And when people act like we desperately need him to beat guys off the dribble left and right in the halfcourt, I get confused. That's not who he is now, and it won't be who he is as a pro.

 

[UCBearcats]

The only thing about J.C. that worries me is the mid-range shots-when we are playing on the road and he puts his head down and goes to the rim homeritis will have him in foul trouble- would love for him to pull up for a 8 footer.

Head down and to the rim has been Mick's last possession strategy for some time now, I only expect that to be reinforced with a bully ball player like JC this season.

If I were a betting man I'd say final possession plays start with JC with options to hit Evans on the outside for a jumper or get it down low to Gary. I think in the majority of those situations you'll see head down to the rim looking for contact and a foul call.

 

[Patrick Bateman]

Shaq was able to get to the rim but rather then draw contact he tried to avoid it. Evans does not get to the rim. What I am hoping to see from Evans this year is a real boost in his game coming from transition baskets. He is good in the open floor going to the hoop on the break. With Broome running the floor I'm hoping to see him getting many easy baskets.

Evans was third on the team in FTA last season, two behind 2nd place and 7 behind Clark who was 1st. So he is getting fouled in the act, no way he gets 112 FT's on jump shots and not driving. He shot 56 FT's his Frosh year, exactly half from his Soph campaign.