Notre Dame by itself can save the Big East. Should ND decide to play Big East football the league will be ND, UC, Kansas, Kansas State, South Florida, Iowa State, Baylor, Missouri, TCU. Having ND for football automatically makes you a major BCS Conference.
Will Notre Dame save the Big East?
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JasonS
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It would save the Big East but it will never happen. If Notre Dame goes into a conference it will be the Big 10. The only way this could possibly happen is if the Big East lets Notre Dame have a Texas type deal. That will only create problems as the years go on.
ND could have saved the BE if it were a full member even before Pitt and SU left. What makes you think they have any interest considering this now? They want to remain independent in football, and will find partners for their other sports when the BE fully dissolves. Plus, you have mentioned on multiple occasions how much of a benefit it is to have ND in the BE, with or without football. Lot of good it did the football playing members, don't you think. LOL.
JasonS
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The non-football playing Big East members could still form a conference. They could poach Xavier and Dayton and some other smaller non-football schools and keep Notre Dame for all the non-football sports.
The New York Times reporter who broke the Syracuse Pitt story was on ESPN's Scott Van Pelt show. He said Notre Dame is working as hard as any school to keep the Big East together as Notre Dame needs the Big East for all of their other sports besides football. He said the Big East has two extremely valuable properties, an Automatic BCS qualification and Madison Square Garden for the Big East Tourney. He said the remaining Big 12 and Big East football schools will merge into the Big East with ND remaining as is for all sports but football.
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Of course ND is working hard as ever to keep the Big East together. No other conference would allow ND to be independent in football, IMO.
JasonS
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ND will not have any strength to keep anything together unless it joins in football.
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There is no benefit to UC on a football/basketball basis to remain in a league that is potentially losing 4 football schools (Pitt, Syracuse, Rutgers, UConn). To further expand broadly across the nation makes no sense. UC would benefit much more by joining other Midwest and near West schools in a solid football/basketball league. If the Big 12 can pull in UC, UL, and Boise St. and maintain remaining members it will be a solid if not great conference. With Kansas, KState, Baylor, UC, UL the basketball will still be good. The football would be a step up in my opinion. You could also look to add USF and TCU if the BEast continues to crumble. It is a better logistical choice and will prop UC up in both major sports.
JasonS
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I don't like adding Boise. They don't fit anything outside of football. The key to this, and I hope it happens, is to keep Texas, Oklahoma, OSU, and TT in the conference. This is not far-fetched as several member Pac 12 schools do not want to expand and aren't convinced it would make them more money.
TheLivingLegend
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Does anyone even see UC forking over the money to get out of the BE? I dont...
JasonS
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Absolutely if it means staying relative in football. Let's be honest, no one is going to have to pay anything because there won't be a conference to pay into.
TheLivingLegend
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Thats a tough call imo... isnt it like a 5 million dollar buy out or something?
For me personally I'd much rather be relevant in basketball as opposed to football. But i get that its all a money game at this point.
JasonS
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You have to make sure you are in the game. If 4 super conferences come to be and you are left out, what happens when they all leave the NCAA (yes, this can happen), form their own organization and have their own football and basketball playoff? You have to make sure you are included in whatever is going to keep you relevant and that means sucking it up, paying the $5 Million and calling it a day.
Notre Dame and UC are working vigorously to save the Big East. At this point it is most probable that the Big East will be able to add teams to replace those who leave and then some. If the Big 12 breaks up look for Iowa State, Kansas, and Kansas State to join the Big East almost immediately, Central Florida and Eastern Carolina are the likely expansion candidates. That would give the Big East 12 football members, a championship game, and the Big East will remain an AQ for the BCS.
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A league of the remaining Big 12 schools and select BEast schools would be far superior to a league that includes Hawaii, E. Carolina and Central Florida. I know UC would like to stay but my hope is they only do it if the league can remain strong. What you mentioned is the equivilent of an A-10 BEst merger.
TheLivingLegend
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UC football brings in no money...
Not true. It brings in more gross revenue than basketball.
JasonS
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Nothing is going to happen in the ACC until Notre Dame decides what it is doing. If the Big East completely folds, Notre Dame will go to the ACC and then the ACC will look at 1 more school (UCONN or Rutgers). There is no interest in Cincinnati from the ACC at this time.
TheLivingLegend
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UC football brings in no money compared to other programs.