2015 General Recruiting

[cincrulz11]

Using your logic, tradition, facilities, conference, don't play into recruiting either since there are top recruits that ignore those aspects. See how that works?

Pace absolutely effects recruiting.

you must have completely missed this post i made

There is absolutely no doubt there are recruits of all rankings that will not go to a slow tempo school. That does not mean all good players won't do it. That is silly.

 

[Bulldog01]

I think maybe Mick became scorned when guys like Scotty Hopson, Thabeet, Willie Warren, Behanan, Walker, etc all chose to go elsewhere. The quality of the program has gone up a ton but the number of top recruits that are interested (not necessarily committing) has gone down.

Mick had hot hand in recruiting with big east backing. Can't really blame conference, it's seems every school has seen uptick in recruiting but us. It look like most teams outside of UConn recruit HEAVY local but us. Don't know what deal is but it's not facilities and all that other bulldog crap. We have one of most beautiful campus in America smack right dead in urban areas for urban kids were recruiting. Clark and TC better make it pro or our future will remain the same as now.

 

[Bearcat22]

I think maybe Mick became scorned when guys like Scotty Hopson, Thabeet, Willie Warren, Behanan, Walker, etc all chose to go elsewhere. The quality of the program has gone up a ton but the number of top recruits that are interested (not necessarily committing) has gone down.

Mick (and staff) are great at identifying high level talent. It seems, for whatever reason, we have start with these guys as freshman and sophomores in high school, spend years building relationships, and ultimately schools L'Ville, Kansas, Syracuse, Ohio State, etc. swoop in and get the commitments. I get why we approach it that way. What do we have to do to be one of those schools that can turn heads the way the above listed do?

 

[Bulldog01]

Mick (and staff) What do we have to do to be one of those schools that can turn heads the way the above listed do?

get more involved in the community should be #1. When games don't sell out give tickets to local recreational centers. We probably got most of our big time recruits in past off how we were loved by city. Bengals, reds, or X has won nothing major in over 25+yrs, it's not hard if we got more involved locally that ww can be #1 draw in city. dantonio, Jones and Kelly from day 1 on job was to gain local support from fans, high school coaches, players, family and friends. BS idea that we had to spend more on football to get in better conference. Fan interest around city was just at all time high because of winning and having fun on field. They started getting high quality locals and sending them to pros. When Mick arrived his whole swagger was adopting a NY culture style playing. We've gotten two locals in 10yrs. Chris knight, siebert, Willie Moore, semaj, and few others I know for sure grow up die hard bearcats we didn't land. We have guys playing major roles for 2yrs before they start to produce that also has to change. You can't break that cycle unless you land top ranked recruits that's quality players from day 1.

 

[Bulldog01]

You don't recruit Lawrence to sit behind rubles a 5 & 5 guy. Just doesn't happen at major D1. You let your best players play through mistakes. You think duke, Ky, tosu, mich st, nc, Texas a get the best of the best if they didn't allow them to play? Schedule the best of best also to get our brand out there more. Losing to Kentucky helped us better in recruiting than the past 3yrs combined. I just don't want to see another season where I felt we was just that one player away from making real noise. If Lawrence and Mormon was on this team I could argue this would be our best team since 01. Unless you have 6'7-6'87min guys that top 6375-200 in country it's hard winning without at least 2 top 75 guys.

 

[#BearcatNation]

Jermaine Lawrence played 391 minutes his freshman year, and that's even with missing 8 games. He got his chances, and showed very little. Never deserved to start. He was a big recruiting bust. It happens. He can't even handle Manhattan. It wasn't going to work here.

I'm also not sure what you see in Morman. Wasn't recruited very high, was never much of a scorer (even in high school), didn't play well in his opportunities, and got very chippy. Even if you ignore his "I want more minutes" personality, I don't think he had the overall talent.

 

[TheLongHaul]

get more involved in the community should be #1. When games don't sell out give tickets to local recreational centers. We probably got most of our big time recruits in past off how we were loved by city. Bengals, reds, or X has won nothing major in over 25+yrs, it's not hard if we got more involved locally that ww can be #1 draw in city. dantonio, Jones and Kelly from day 1 on job was to gain local support from fans, high school coaches, players, family and friends. BS idea that we had to spend more on football to get in better conference. Fan interest around city was just at all time high because of winning and having fun on field. They started getting high quality locals and sending them to pros. When Mick arrived his whole swagger was adopting a NY culture style playing. We've gotten two locals in 10yrs. Chris knight, siebert, Willie Moore, semaj, and few others I know for sure grow up die hard bearcats we didn't land. We have guys playing major roles for 2yrs before they start to produce that also has to change. You can't break that cycle unless you land top ranked recruits that's quality players from day 1.

I thought UC recruited Siebert really hard?? I'll give you Semaj, UC could have had him and made a big mistake passing on him.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Jermaine Lawrence played 391 minutes his freshman year, and that's even with missing 8 games. He got his chances, and showed very little. Never deserved to start. He was a big recruiting bust. It happens. He can't even handle Manhattan. It wasn't going to work here.

I'm also not sure what you see in Morman. Wasn't recruited very high, was never much of a scorer (even in high school), didn't play well in his opportunities, and got very chippy. Even if you ignore his "I want more minutes" personality, I don't think he had the overall talent.

Way too early to write off Lawrence imo. I still think he can put it together.

 

[Bulldog01]

Macio Teague, jaqualis matlock, Hagen tyler, rodney culver Are couple guys I'll sign and redshirt

 

[Patrick Bateman]

Way too early to write off Lawrence imo. I still think he can put it together.

He could but he has a long way to go, last year he almost had as many rebounds as turnovers (36-30) and a 1:15 assist to TO ratio.

 

[TNBearcat3]

You don't play a guy no matter what, when he looks lost most of the time on the court. You're basically saying you let a guy who makes mistake after mistake keep playing because he has to play through it to figure it out. I can't be the only one who thinks that is absolutely crazy. You play guys that help you win, no matter what they were ranked coming out of high school. If you are saying that what you saw from JL warranted more PT than Titus you lose all credibility in my eyes.

 

[mdchick]

You don't play a guy no matter what, when he looks lost most of the time on the court. You're basically saying you let a guy who makes mistake after mistake keep playing because he has to play through it to figure it out. I can't be the only one who thinks that is absolutely crazy. You play guys that help you win, no matter what they were ranked coming out of high school. If you are saying that what you saw from JL warranted more PT than Titus you lose all credibility in my eyes.

You just lost credibility for him...... He is the single reason why I don't come on here as much

 

[Bulldog01]

You don't play a guy no matter what, when he looks lost most of the time on the court. You're basically saying you let a guy who makes mistake after mistake keep playing because he has to play through it to figure it out. I can't be the only one who thinks that is absolutely crazy. You play guys that help you win, no matter what they were ranked coming out of high school. If you are saying that what you saw from JL warranted more PT than Titus you lose all credibility in my eyes.

when the hell did Lawrence look lost? we lost to HARVARD in 1st rd with rubles starting. I believe Mick by year end could've had JL developed enough to avg more than 5/5 and not lose to HARVARD. We lost with 3SR playing heavy minutes who made alot of mistakes also.

 

[Bulldog01]

You just lost credibility for him...... He is the single reason why I don't come on here as much

Who cares? Stop making up lies. Everytime rubles touched ball on offense he looked lost as any player in college. When did Lawrence look lost in his limited playing time. Smh, guys are horrible. NEVER come on here with basketball input just trying start havoc

 

[jacobkdoyle]

You don't play a guy no matter what, when he looks lost most of the time on the court. You're basically saying you let a guy who makes mistake after mistake keep playing because he has to play through it to figure it out. I can't be the only one who thinks that is absolutely crazy. You play guys that help you win, no matter what they were ranked coming out of high school. If you are saying that what you saw from JL warranted more PT than Titus you lose all credibility in my eyes.

The makeup of the team is a factor imo. Like this year could've been a year for Lawrence to play through some mistakes (I swear I thought you were talking about KJ in the first half of that post). But SK's SR year we got in the Top 10, had a 15 game win streak, won the conference, and had an All-American. Rubles was more ready to help at the time. He had some big rebounding games and was much more reliable all-around.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

when the hell did Lawrence look lost? we lost to HARVARD in 1st rd with rubles starting. I believe Mick by year end could've had JL developed enough to avg more than 5/5 and not lose to HARVARD. We lost with 3SR playing heavy minutes who made alot of mistakes also.

JL missed 6 games with injury too though. I think that got him out of whack.

 

[bearcat18]

when the hell did Lawrence look lost?

I'd say 95% of the time, and that might be generous. He looked scared on both ends, was clueless on defense, had a bad motor, turned the ball over and bricked FTs.

^yes his injury might have played some part but he didn't look good before his injury either.

 

[Bulldog01]

The makeup of the team is a factor imo. Like this year could've been a year for Lawrence to play through some mistakes (I swear I thought you were talking about KJ in the first half of that post). But SK's SR year we got in the Top 10, had a 15 game win streak, won the conference, and had an All-American. Rubles was more ready to help at the time. He had some big rebounding games and was much more reliable all-around.

any 23yr old is more reliable than a 18yr old. I bet JL could've avg more than rubles as fr with same minutes. junk yard players like rubles come off bench.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

I'd say 95% of the time, and that might be generous. He looked scared on both ends, was clueless on defense, had a bad motor, turned the ball over and bricked FTs.

^yes his injury might have played some part but he didn't look good before his injury either.

Yeah I'm saying there was no way he was gonna come back after missing that time and start over Rubles. Lawrence looked his best in the game @Memphis I think. Not sure how soon that was before his injury.

 

[Bulldog01]

I'd say 95% of the time, and that might be generous. He looked scared on both ends, was clueless on defense, had a bad motor, turned the ball over and bricked FTs.

^yes his injury might have played some part but he didn't look good before his injury either.

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