2017-18 Stats/Rankings

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Here are the offensive ratings per KenPom:

Gary Clark 152.6
Justin Jenifer 149.6
Trevon Scott 144.4
Jarron Cumberland 139.3
Jacob Evans 131.1
Trevor Moore 125.7
Cane Broome 117.0
Mamoudou Diarra 111.2
Kyle Washington 105.5
Nysier Brooks 102.6
Keith Williams 96.3
Eliel Nsoseme 77.7
 
Per www.hoop-math.com 32.7% of our attempts have been in transition.

For perspective, previous years:
20.7%
22.8%
20.1%


Also per kpom we've averaged 14.1 seconds per offensive possession, which is 21st in the country.

For comparison, last year was 18.7 seconds and 303rd in the country.

Also should be noted were 5th in the nation in Offensive Rebounding percentage. This means we're ACTUALLY EVEN FASTER than 14.1 seconds because an offensive rebound does not start a new possession, but merely extends the possession according to their way of tracking data.
 
ervins84 said:
Per www.hoop-math.com 32.7% of our attempts have been in transition.

For perspective, previous years:
20.7%
22.8%
20.1%


Also per kpom we've averaged 14.1 seconds per offensive possession, which is 21st in the country.

For comparison, last year was 18.7 seconds and 303rd in the country.

Also should be noted were 5th in the nation in Offensive Rebounding percentage. This means we're ACTUALLY EVEN FASTER than 14.1 seconds because an offensive rebound does not start a new possession, but merely extends the possession according to their way of tracking data.
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I think possession time on offense ramps up to 16 second per possession when we get into tougher games. 16 would still be one of the faster power teams in the country
 
ervins84 said:
Per www.hoop-math.com 32.7% of our attempts have been in transition.

For perspective, previous years:
20.7%
22.8%
20.1%
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can you look at stuff like after 4 games say 2 seasons ago. our first 4 games were against dumpster teams like this year and we scored 97, 106, 83, and 99. then game 5 came vs the powerhouse SE Louisiana and we put up 64.


im always going to want to see it before i believe it over the course of a full season.
 
PER through 6 games

Clark 33.4
Diarra 26.3
Washington 21.2
Evans 20.8
Broome 20.2
Cumberland 19.9
Scott 19.4
Jenifer 17.8
Moore 17.2
Brooks 11.9
Williams 7.5
Nsoseme 5.4
 
cincrulz11 said:
can you look at stuff like after 4 games say 2 seasons ago. our first 4 games were against dumpster teams like this year and we scored 97, 106, 83, and 99. then game 5 came vs the powerhouse SE Louisiana and we put up 64.


im always going to want to see it before i believe it over the course of a full season.
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I don't think you can unfortunately. At least I don't know how to...

Obv those are gonna drop somewhat, even more so because teams aren't going to try and run with us and will probably try to control tempo.
 
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PER
Clark 30.2
Diarra 25.1
Evans 21.1
Broome 19.7
Washington 19.3
Scott 17.7
Moore 17.2
Cumberland 15.9
Brooks 15.8
Jenifer 13.3
Williams 9.7
Nsoseme 8.2
 
Is there a Team PER stat? I'd like to see our year by year Team PER. Not just averaging everyone on our team, but weighting it by % of minutes played.
 
2014-15 Team PER: 16.6

2015-16 Team PER: 18.4

2016-17 Team PER: 18.4

2017-18 Team PER: 18.3

I think the starters this year will start to take a higher % of the minutes, so the number will reflect that more and more as the year goes on. Our bench is playing over 40% of the minutes this year. Last year the bench played about 27% of the minutes.
 
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I think we shot ourselves in the foot big time with that Florida game. There were a lot of losses in front of us that week. This week not a lot of losses in front of us. We could have climbed 5 spots if we beat FLA when we were 17 but now we are 25 and aren't going to climb that much in the polls. Probably close to a 10 spot difference in rankings if we beat FLA.

Oh well...I think we found a nice groove in the past couple of games between great D and decent O.
 
waterhead said:
I think we shot ourselves in the foot big time with that Florida game. There were a lot of losses in front of us that week. This week not a lot of losses in front of us. We could have climbed 5 spots if we beat FLA when we were 17 but now we are 25 and aren't going to climb that much in the polls. Probably close to a 10 spot difference in rankings if we beat FLA.

Oh well...I think we found a nice groove in the past couple of games between great D and decent O.
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the Florida loss was very disappointing loss. 21 TO's did us in and we still had a shot to win
 
the Reddit Poll has us at #19 which i think is fair.

I voted us at #17 just because we had a week that included 2 double digit Wins against top 100 opponents and not many other teams had wins like that this week.

Rest of my poll: (admittedly spent less time this week on it and submitted 5 min before deadline)

  1. Villanova
  2. Mich state
  3. Arizona State
  4. Duke
  5. Kentucky
  6. UNC
  7. Miami
  8. West Virginia
  9. TCU
  10. Xavier
  11. Texas A&M
  12. Purdue
  13. Arizona
  14. Gonzaga
  15. Oklahoma
  16. Virginia
  17. Cincinnati
  18. wichita State
  19. Kansas
  20. Baylor
  21. Seton Hall
  22. Texas Tech
  23. Creighton
  24. Florida State
  25. Tennessee
 
justinhub2003 said:
the Reddit Poll has us at #19 which i think is fair.

I voted us at #17 just because we had a week that included 2 double digit Wins against top 100 opponents and not many other teams had wins like that this week.

Rest of my poll: (admittedly spent less time this week on it and submitted 5 min before deadline)

  1. Villanova
  2. Mich state
  3. Arizona State
  4. Duke
  5. Kentucky
  6. UNC
  7. Miami
  8. West Virginia
  9. TCU
  10. Xavier
  11. Texas A&M
  12. Purdue
  13. Arizona
  14. Gonzaga
  15. Oklahoma
  16. Virginia
  17. Cincinnati
  18. wichita State
  19. Kansas
  20. Baylor
  21. Seton Hall
  22. Texas Tech
  23. Creighton
  24. Florida State
  25. Tennessee
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Funny to see Arizona State #3 and KU #19. Wonder what that'll be in a couple months.
 
justinhub2003 said:
the Reddit Poll has us at #19 which i think is fair.

I voted us at #17 just because we had a week that included 2 double digit Wins against top 100 opponents and not many other teams had wins like that this week.

Rest of my poll: (admittedly spent less time this week on it and submitted 5 min before deadline)

  1. Villanova
  2. Mich state
  3. Arizona State
  4. Duke
  5. Kentucky
  6. UNC
  7. Miami
  8. West Virginia
  9. TCU
  10. Xavier
  11. Texas A&M
  12. Purdue
  13. Arizona
  14. Gonzaga
  15. Oklahoma
  16. Virginia
  17. Cincinnati
  18. wichita State
  19. Kansas
  20. Baylor
  21. Seton Hall
  22. Texas Tech
  23. Creighton
  24. Florida State
  25. Tennessee
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Not sure where you had WSU before this game but they were beat by a team you have as #15 now and they were #3 in the AP poll before this. That's a big drop for a #15 loss no?
 
waterhead said:
Not sure where you had WSU before this game but they were beat by a team you have as #15 now and they were #3 in the AP poll before this. That's a big drop for a #15 loss no?
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You get beat at home like that (it was never a game) and I'm losing faith in you really quick.

Real Top 10 teams defend home court.

They have been given this benefit of the doubt that UC hasn't gotten all year and In my poll Im no longer doing that with them. They've looked like shit in multiple games and allowed 90+ on their home floor. thats not elite.


I think they can get much much better when Mcduffie is back, but they have 2 losses now, 1 to a now unranked ND team and 1 at home.
 
jacobkdoyle said:
Funny to see Arizona State #3 and KU #19. Wonder what that'll be in a couple months.
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I have little Faith their top 5 ranking holds but you can't deny them at this point. They have possibly the best resume in basketball and can just flat out score.
4 top 50 wins and 6 top 75 wins.

Against Vandy they took exactly ZERO mid range shots. It was either in the paint or from 3. Thats really smart basketball.


Kenpom metrics has them at 31. But what I like about them is that they aren't a one trick pony. If you stop they 3, they will take you off the dribble and either score at the rim or get fouled. They have a really balanced attacked and 24% of their scoring comes from the Free throw line (15th in the country in that category)


Meanwhile, Kansas is a one trick pony. They lack any meaningful depth and if the 3 point shot isn't falling, they will lose every time. They get fouled ALMOST NEVER and have a free throw rate of #350!!!!!.
 
justinhub2003 said:
I have little Faith their top 5 ranking holds but you can't deny them at this point. They have possibly the best resume in basketball and can just flat out score.
4 top 50 wins and 6 top 75 wins.

Against Vandy they took exactly ZERO mid range shots. It was either in the paint or from 3. Thats really smart basketball.


Kenpom metrics has them at 31. But what I like about them is that they aren't a one trick pony. If you stop they 3, they will take you off the dribble and either score at the rim or get fouled. They have a really balanced attacked and 24% of their scoring comes from the Free throw line (15th in the country in that category)


Meanwhile, Kansas is a one trick pony. They lack any meaningful depth and if the 3 point shot isn't falling, they will lose every time. They get fouled ALMOST NEVER and have a free throw rate of #350!!!!!.
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We'll see if Sam Cunliffe helps KU's depth at all. I know their fans aren't happy with Svi (they never are) and Malik Newman.
 
Broome and Clark are already in the 1,000 point club. Washington is at 987 and Evans is at 923. Pretty cool.
 
not sure where to put this

BOSTON – University of Cincinnati senior forward Kyle Washington (Champlin, Minn./NC State) has been named the Lute Olson award national player of the week.

The 6-foot-9 senior helped the Bearcats to a pair of wins last week. On Tuesday, Washington matched his season-high with 16 points against Mississippi State. He was 8 of 15 from the field and pulled down five rebounds. On Saturday, he had his best game on the season, with 19 points at UCLA. He was 7-of-11 from the field and added four rebounds, four steals and two blocks.


2017-18 LUTE OLSEN NATIONAL PLAYER OF THE WEEK
(Dec. 18): Kyle Washington, Cincinnati
(Dec. 11): Jock Landale, Saint Mary's
(Dec. 4): Devonte' Graham, Kansas
(Nov. 27): Bonzie Colson, Notre Dame
(Nov. 20): Grayson Allen, Duke
(Nov. 13): Kendrick Nunn, Oakland
 
Points League Scoring:

Clark 385.2 (1.31 points per minute)
Evans 323 (1.00)
Cumberland 237.9 (0.83)
Washington 227.3 (0.97)
Broome 200.5 (0.90)
Jenifer 132 (0.58)
Scott 115.1 (0.81)
Moore 95.8 (0.83)
Williams 91.6 (0.66)
Brooks 88.9 (0.82)
Nsoseme 51.9 (0.89)
Diarra 43.7 (1.46)
 

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