jacobkdoyle
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Anyone wanna talk about how good Clark is? My goodness.
2017-18 Stats/Rankings
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Anyone wanna talk about how good Clark is? My goodness.
Clark 385.2 (1.31 points per minute)
Evans 323 (1.00)
Cumberland 237.9 (0.83)
Washington 227.3 (0.97)
Broome 200.5 (0.90)
Jenifer 132 (0.58)
Scott 115.1 (0.81)
Moore 95.8 (0.83)
Williams 91.6 (0.66)
Brooks 88.9 (0.82)
Nsoseme 51.9 (0.89)
Diarra 43.7 (1.46)
Or Diarra... why isn't he getting more minutes than Clark???
Jokes a side, Clark is going to be severely missed next year. The little things he does that don't make the stat line to make this team so much better is alarming!
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Clark 30.1
Evans 21.6
Washington 20.4
Broome 19.9
Scott 18.9
Diarra 17.8
Moore 16.9
Brooks 14.6
Cumberland 14.2
Jenifer 12.2
Williams 10.6
Nsoseme 8.4
Clark 30.1
Evans 21.6
Washington 20.4
Broome 19.9
Scott 18.9
Diarra 17.8
Moore 16.9
Brooks 14.6
Cumberland 14.2
Jenifer 12.2
Williams 10.6
Nsoseme 8.4
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Trevon better get a lot better between now and next year!!Clark 385.2 (1.31 points per minute)
Evans 323 (1.00)
Cumberland 237.9 (0.83)
Washington 227.3 (0.97)
Broome 200.5 (0.90)
Jenifer 132 (0.58)
Scott 115.1 (0.81)
Moore 95.8 (0.83)
Williams 91.6 (0.66)
Brooks 88.9 (0.82)
Nsoseme 51.9 (0.89)
Diarra 43.7 (1.46)
Or Diarra... why isn't he getting more minutes than Clark???
Jokes a side, Clark is going to be severely missed next year. The little things he does that don't make the stat line to make this team so much better is alarming!
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I think he will be he will not replace Gary.
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Kenpom Player of the Year Race:
jacobkdoyle
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So we are:
#8 KenPom
#7 BPI
#11 Sagarin
#14 AP Poll
#13 Coaches Poll
#34 RPI (lol)
#8 KenPom
#7 BPI
#11 Sagarin
#14 AP Poll
#13 Coaches Poll
#34 RPI (lol)
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good thing we rely on that rpi more than everything else. its clearly the best!
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if our rpi is bad it will hurt us. if its good they'll say it doesn't matter as much this year.
I think we were 12th last year. Our rpi didn't mean a lot. It was our record against top 50 that dropped us.
I think the RPI is pretty much useless as a barometer until the end of season when it will more closely resemble the other metrics. Right now Buffalo is our best win in RPI. Then UCLA and Temple. All of those are top 50 now in RPI but in Kenpom Buffalo is #96, Temple is #85, and UCLA is #46. Top 100 in RPI is Wyoming #51, Miss St #56, and SMU #64...in Kenpom they are SMU #34, Miss St #68, and Wyoming #105.
These numbers don't match up very well right now. Only UCLA and Miss St are close in both rankings. We are #8 in Kenpom and #34 in RPI. Our schedule is back loaded so we won't get a lot of credit in RPI until the last month of basketball.
We have 10 of 15 games left to play against RPI top 100 as it currently stands. Uconn is 112 (x 2 ). It's not going to look anything close to this in RPI by end of season. However Kenpom is going to get the prediction a lot closer...with their current rankings.
A lot has been said about non con SOS...but I don't think this one factor alone will amount to much more than a half a seed drop or maybe a full seed at worst. The biggest question will be how did we perform against the Tier 1 teams...and then tier 2.
Tier 1 is top 30 games at home, top 50 neutral, and top 75 away. Tier 2 is top 31-75 at home, top 51-100 neutral, and top 76-135 away. This all changed from last year which was tier 1 top 50 no matter home or away and tier 2 top 100 no matter home or away.
We are going to need some help from certain teams to stay within these arbitrary cutoffs or move up into them. IF SMU can finish top 30 it gives us 1 more column 1 win. They are Kenpom #34. Our neutral games like Buffalo and Wyoming could end up column 2 wins...but they are both on the border using Kenpom with Buffalo #96 and Wyoming #105. UCF and Temple can be column 1 away games if they finish top 75 etc. Temple and UCF also give us a shot at column 2 home wins if they get in the top 75. Teams like UCLA and Houston are not currently on any bubble line according to Kenpom.
Bottom line is there is a lot of BB to be played and there are several teams on bubble lines which will affect how the committee views us. We have more options this year to appear more favorable to the committee but we have to take care of business. In order to get a protected seed I think we have to win all but 2 remaining games in tier 1 and maybe 1 game in tier 2. If we do that we are probably a bubble 4 seed. If we do better we can get a 3 seed or better. If we do worse we could get as low as a 6 seed again...assuming we don't just fold down the stretch.
I feel like each loss is a dropped seed line from here on out...or close to it. We finish with no more losses (in regular season) and we are looking at a 2 seed. 2 more losses and I think we might be a 3-4 seed. 3 more losses and we are straddling 4-5 seed and so on.
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I was looking at our remaining schedule and we have 6 Tier 1 games left as of current rankings. By comparison, Michigan State only has 3 remaining! We also have 13 of last 15 games against top 150 RPI teams and that's not including AAC Tourney. The ingredients are there to get a really good seed.
Currently we are 4-2 against quadrant 1, and 2-0 against quadrant 2.
Only other teams with 4 wins in quadrant 1: Purdue and Kansas.
6 wins for both quadrants is lower than: Duke (8). Also with 6 are: Xavier, Wichita State, Arizona St, Kansas, WVU. No one has 7.
From this, should be a good sign for things as of today. Obviously the 2 Wichita St games, @SMU @UCF @Houston will be five massive games.
Also, keep rooting for Florida, UCLA, Miss St, Wyoming and Buffalo!
The committee isn't going to give two shits how many coppin states we played. They will care about how well we played against column 1 and 2.
Non con SOS will maybe decide which way we go if we are between seeds.
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If we go perfect or near perfect they won’t care. But if we slip up against a team we shouldn’t or lose 4 or 5 games then it really matters.
And again, we’re not dealing with just ours numbers here. We’re dealing with a selection committee that has clearly had a p6 bias. The human element means a lot more than you think. I’d personally feel better if we were selected purely off numbers
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If you go by the much more accurate kenpom Tier A and tier B games. Then mich state has 10 A&B games left and we have 8..
And like I said in the previous post, there is a bias. Mich state has the commitees ear. We don’t.
Just win and it doesn’t matter.
The reason the committee didn't like our conference last year was because there were only 2 teams in the top 50. Unfortunately we can't play ourselves. We gave ourselves a few more looks at top 50 in OOC but it wasn't enough...especially when we went 3 for 7.
This year we are going to have more shots at column 1 wins and probably column 2. Our conference right now is projected as having 4 bids with a possible 5th if UCF can get it going after we play them...haha. It is conceivable we could be 5th in bids to the tourney.
The OOC SOS will be considered (as one of several other variables) after column 1 and 2 wins are evaluated. It simply isn't going to matter much. It could drop us a seed line at worst IMO. Last year we should have been projected as the last 3 seed with an RPI of 12. We were moved to a 6. If we end with the same RPI this year I could see us dropping from a 3 to a 4....because we should have a lot of very good wins on our resume.
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Last year we had a total of 7 column 1 games on our team sheet. One of those was in tourney. We had 4 games in column 2. Even though they say conference tourney doesn't matter unless you win it the column 1 game was on our team sheet. We have a legit chance this year to pick up 2 column 1 games in tourney. A neutral game has to be top 50. Of course MSU can pick some up as well but I am comparing to our team last year.
We could have 10 more chances at quality wins. Last year we had 11 total. We have already played 7 I think. X, FLA, UCLA, Miss St, Buff, Temple, and SMU. Wyoming is on the border as well.
We could have 17 chances compared to 11 last year. Of course the changes in the way the committee views column 1 and 2 games this year could mean other power conferences are going to see a bump as well...so we still have to take care of business and win a good % of them. If we end up with 5 losses on 17 chances we will have gone 12 of 17 against quality opponents. Last year we were 3 of 7 column 1 and 3 of 4 column 2 for 6 of 11 total. That is a difference of winning 55% to 71%. I think that should catch the committee's eye.