2017-2018 Season

[jacobkdoyle]

I would just love to see him develop a move going over the other shoulder. he would be unstoppable.

100%

 

[cincyguy13]

I hope they are all putting in the work everyday. It's really on each player if they want to improve. Would love to have a year similar to last year, with a couple more tourney wins

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

100%

Jake I watched him from floor level seats and the amount of overplay he gets is crazy. he throws up some ugly shots to be able to go to his dominant hand. Strangely enough some still go in. If he learned to drop step and go back the other way he would kill the opposition.

 

[UClaw89]

I hope nobody confuses what I was saying about Kyle shooting 3's and this particular issue.

His 2 point FG% (and overall shooting %) has increased dramatically over the years. Even with more attempts. I understand he's not a volume 3 guy and his % from there could be inflated due to that. But he is a volume 2 guy and his % is getting better and better AND better every year.

I hope he has better shot selection next year...if he does I could see his FG % going up again. This year he made a good % even with some bad selections.[/QUOTE

I don't think Kyle should shoot any threes. We have other guys who can do that Jaron, Jacob and the new PG. We do want to see him get more agressive around the basket. I think we can safely say he is a thoughtful person which makes him somewhat reserved. Hopefully he will learn to loose that in the of a game and become a maniac like he did for a couple of minutes at the end of the UCLA game. Is this resonating with anyone?

 

[waterhead]

I hope they are all putting in the work everyday. It's really on each player if they want to improve. Would love to have a year similar to last year, with a couple more tourney wins

I have been pretty impressed with what Mike Rehfeldt gets accomplished in the off season. He is one of the best in the country IMO. Most of the guys seem to put in a lot of work. The results of all but one or two guys has been impressive over the last couple of years. It's hard to make those transformations if you aren't dedicated. My hat goes off to the players as well...they have to put in the hard work.

I would like to start seeing more work on skills in the off season but we rarely get to hear too much about what players are working on...we just get the weight room stuff.

Oh...and I can't wait to see Broome in action. It's been a long time since we've had a dynamic PG running the show. Looking forward to seeing what Williams brings to the table as well. Not that I am not excited about seeing Moore or Nsoseme play.

 

[waterhead]

I hope nobody confuses what I was saying about Kyle shooting 3's and this particular issue.

His 2 point FG% (and overall shooting %) has increased dramatically over the years. Even with more attempts. I understand he's not a volume 3 guy and his % from there could be inflated due to that. But he is a volume 2 guy and his % is getting better and better AND better every year.

I hope he has better shot selection next year...if he does I could see his FG % going up again. This year he made a good % even with some bad selections.[/QUOTE

I don't think Kyle should shoot any threes. We have other guys who can do that Jaron, Jacob and the new PG. We do want to see him get more agressive around the basket. I think we can safely say he is a thoughtful person which makes him somewhat reserved. Hopefully he will learn to loose that in the of a game and become a maniac like he did for a couple of minutes at the end of the UCLA game. Is this resonating with anyone?

I think that may be a bit much. I can understand the philosophy of wanting to try to get it down low first...especially against inferior opponents. But when we play against a good defense I prefer to go ahead and shoot the open shot when it comes up. He makes a decent % so I wouldn't shut him down all together from 3.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

I think that may be a bit much. I can understand the philosophy of wanting to try to get it down low first...especially against inferior opponents. But when we play against a good defense I prefer to go ahead and shoot the open shot when it comes up. He makes a decent % so I wouldn't shut him down all together from 3.

Yeah and if Clark is getting post touches, sometimes Washington just needs to be above the 3 pt line to get his man out of the way. Why people are so hell-bent on having the old Cronin 2 post players who don't shoot outside offense is beyond me.

 

[waterhead]

Here is my main thing with Kyle. His confidence not to shrivel up in big games. Concerning his 3's...here is how it looks.

RI...2-3
ISU...1-3
But...2-4
Temp...1-3
Hou...1-3
Uconn...3-5
UCF...2-5
SMU...1-4
UCF...1-2

44%. He made 14 of his total 15 threes in bigger games. Over 90% of his makes were in big games or closer games...and at a good %.


Here are some games Kyle didn't attempt a 3.

Albany
Penn State
Samford
Lipsicomb
Tex South
Farleigh D
Marshall
Tulane
ECU
Tulane
SF
SF

So what I like about Kyle is his confidence to shoot in big games and make a good % of them. Other players will get nervous and defer shots to other players or they will take more 3's against bad competition. I don't want him to not shoot in big games if other players are going to defer. We keep hoping Evans will shoot more as an example. It's going to be easier for Kyle to find 2's against inferior opponents and sometimes against better teams or better D's he's going to have to take an open shot from 3.

 

[waterhead]

Here is my main thing with Kyle. His confidence not to shrivel up in big games. Concerning his 3's...here is how it looks.

RI...2-3
ISU...1-3
But...2-4
Temp...1-3
Hou...1-3
Uconn...3-5
UCF...2-5
SMU...1-4
UCF...1-2

44%. He made 14 of his total 15 threes in bigger games. Over 90% of his makes were in big games or closer games...and at a good %.


Here are some games Kyle didn't attempt a 3.

Albany
Penn State
Samford
Lipsicomb
Tex South
Farleigh D
Marshall
Tulane
ECU
Tulane
SF
SF

So what I like about Kyle is his confidence to shoot in big games and make a good % of them. Other players will get nervous and defer shots to other players or they will take more 3's against bad competition. I don't want him to not shoot in big games if other players are going to defer. We keep hoping Evans will shoot more as an example. It's going to be easier for Kyle to find 2's against inferior opponents and sometimes against better teams or better D's he's going to have to take an open shot from 3.

I did not include the last 5-7 games because that is when I think Kyle took a different approach or perhaps was restricted. He passed up his normal open looks and his % went down as a result IMO. I don't think Kyle decided because he went 0-1 in a couple of games that his confidence was shaken and decided not to shoot as many. This is my opinion and nothing more

 

[waterhead]

Here is my main thing with Kyle. His confidence not to shrivel up in big games. Concerning his 3's...here is how it looks.

RI...2-3
ISU...1-3
But...2-4
Temp...1-3
Hou...1-3
Uconn...3-5
UCF...2-5
SMU...1-4
UCF...1-2

44%. He made 14 of his total 15 threes in bigger games. Over 90% of his makes were in big games or closer games...and at a good %.


Here are some games Kyle didn't attempt a 3.

Albany
Penn State
Samford
Lipsicomb
Tex South
Farleigh D
Marshall
Tulane
ECU
Tulane
SF
SF

So what I like about Kyle is his confidence to shoot in big games and make a good % of them. Other players will get nervous and defer shots to other players or they will take more 3's against bad competition. I don't want him to not shoot in big games if other players are going to defer. We keep hoping Evans will shoot more as an example. It's going to be easier for Kyle to find 2's against inferior opponents and sometimes against better teams or better D's he's going to have to take an open shot from 3.

His stats are not padded by shooting against patsies AT ALL. In fact it is the exact opposite.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

I did not include the last 5-7 games because that is when I think Kyle took a different approach or perhaps was restricted. He passed up his normal open looks and his % went down as a result IMO. I don't think Kyle decided because he went 0-1 in a couple of games that his confidence was shaken and decided not to shoot as many. This is my opinion and nothing more

We get it! Lol.

 

[waterhead]

We get it! Lol.

Oh...have I mentioned this before? LOL

 

[cincyguy13]

Here is my main thing with Kyle. His confidence not to shrivel up in big games. Concerning his 3's...here is how it looks.

RI...2-3
ISU...1-3
But...2-4
Temp...1-3
Hou...1-3
Uconn...3-5
UCF...2-5
SMU...1-4
UCF...1-2

44%. He made 14 of his total 15 threes in bigger games. Over 90% of his makes were in big games or closer games...and at a good %.


Here are some games Kyle didn't attempt a 3.

Albany
Penn State
Samford
Lipsicomb
Tex South
Farleigh D
Marshall
Tulane
ECU
Tulane
SF
SF

So what I like about Kyle is his confidence to shoot in big games and make a good % of them. Other players will get nervous and defer shots to other players or they will take more 3's against bad competition. I don't want him to not shoot in big games if other players are going to defer. We keep hoping Evans will shoot more as an example. It's going to be easier for Kyle to find 2's against inferior opponents and sometimes against better teams or better D's he's going to have to take an open shot from 3.

Are we still on this?

 

[waterhead]

Are we still on this?

You are welcome to discuss whatever subject you like.

 

[cincyguy13]

You are welcome to discuss whatever subject you like.

You can keep going, but I think we got the point you are trying to make. I think it comes down to you thinking kyle is a better shooter than most do. If you think he's a good shooter, then you should think that. Still love you though, even if you may be wrong

 

[NKY Bearcat]

You are welcome to discuss whatever subject you like.

I would like to discuss Gary Clark's 3 point shooting. Your thoughts?

 

[waterhead]

You can keep going, but I think we got the point you are trying to make. I think it comes down to you thinking kyle is a better shooter than most do. If you think he's a good shooter, then you should think that. Still love you though, even if you may be wrong

I'm not sure what you mean by good shooter. If it looks good or if they go in? I'm not a big form guy. I think Cumberland will make plenty over his career at a decent rate... Without great form.

Perhaps Kyle has been lucky with a low level of attempts...Who knows. I just think his confidence has more to do with it than you probably do. Some players freeze up under pressure...I don't think that's Kyle's problem...Lol!

 

[cincyguy13]

I would like to discuss Gary Clark's 3 point shooting. Your thoughts?

I actually think clark is a better shooter. Don't know any stats tho

 

[waterhead]

I would like to discuss Gary Clark's 3 point shooting. Your thoughts?

Gary got off to a rough start going 1 for his first 11. After that he shot okay. Add in last year and I don't mind him shooting wide open shots either.

I don't want he or Kyle hanging out on the perimeter for obvious reasons...But if they are open...I say shoot it.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Gary got off to a rough start going 1 for his first 11. After that he shot okay. Add in last year and I don't mind him shooting wide open shots either.

I don't want he or Kyle hanging out on the perimeter for obvious reasons...But if they are open...I say shoot it.

Clark setting a screen up top to initiate​ the offense and rolling back behind the line is one of my favorite things we do. He always makes good decisions with the ball and he'll only get more comfortable next year.

I agree with you though, don't need those guys living out there. But it is nice to have the threat for spacing purposes.