Bcatfollower
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Ok, no one says they are soft again and you don’t talk about Brannen being an idiot who should be fired.
Wanna take bets on who fails first?
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Ok, no one says they are soft again and you don’t talk about Brannen being an idiot who should be fired.
Wanna take bets on who fails first?
cincrulz11
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Curious if we polled the old school players how many of them hated Huggins.... And would now say he was the best thing that ever happened to them.
Same thing? Who knows.
Obviously brannen has to adjust some things.
Kevin Johnson the other day said they all hated Mick and at least 5 players wanted to transfer every year, including him, but they stayed around for the other guys.
Something tells me if there were free transfer years all this time, this sort of thing would just be normal.
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Curious if we polled the old school players how many of them hated Huggins.... And would now say he was the best thing that ever happened to them.
Same thing? Who knows.
Obviously brannen has to adjust some things.
I get what you're saying, but John Brannen isn't Bob Huggins. And I don't worship at the alter of Coach Huggins. The one thing that bothers me about the guy is that he keeps insisting that once he gets the proper players for his system, everything will be right with the world. You can either coach or you can't. I was beginning to buy in once things turned around this year, but I'm not so sure it wasn't the players just auditioning for future teams. Brannen got all the credit, but was it really him? The pattern of transfer needs to stop. I know, kids leave every year, from every school. But what happened to the Bearcats this year was ridiculous. I want 3/4 year kids you can follow and get to know, not 5 new transfers every year who may or may not stay. Find someone who will buy into the program and it's history, and don't chase them off once they suit up.
Even the people saying the players are soft are saying Brannen deserves blame. You are on a crusade to crush nuance.I guess I can keep repeating it for as long as some people can keep repeating that the freshmen were just soft.
Out of touch, deceptive and manipulative, they all work. Also every single potential recruit is going to see that article. So if Brannen stays what matters is not what fans thing, but what recruits think.
I don't pay for the article, but by the sound of it, I don't think the article is going to win over a lot of recruits.
I have no idea how this one article will effect recruiting. I’m sure if it’s brought up there will be counterpoints etc. but playing time is always a big one so who knows. Either way coach needs to remove his head from his butt and take some internal inventory
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Even the people saying the players are soft are saying Brannen deserves blame. You are on a crusade to crush nuance.
Yep. I feel like some people on here are incapable of having a conversation. It has to be 100% one way or another. The real world is almost never that black and white. Two things can be true at once.
cincrulz11
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Did I miss who committed somehow, or has there still been nothing?
Bcatfollower
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Did I miss who committed somehow, or has there still been nothing?
Nothing as far as I’ve seen. Just speculation
TheLivingLegend
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Nothing as far as I’ve seen. Just speculation
Tomorrow. Commit will announce.
What I'm reading is... John brought in some SOFT ass players.
Same, so he wanted them to look professional. How dare him!! But here’s the guys on the board thinking he should cater to them. It’s not old school. Give me a break.
This from Nick O. on 247 boards.
Lmao. So sounds like he like all of us thought, that Harvey would transfer.. again how dare he voice that. How dare he prepare for the future.
That sounds like hot garbage or a complete dunce as a coach. He knows they talk to each other. Makes zero sense
What the hell are you talking about, him seeing the writing on the wall with Harvey, makes him a dunce?
The no hats, earrings and so on really stands out to me. Like wtf is that? Sounds like a 1980's rule.
Brannen sounds really out of touch with the times. He needs to sit down with DeJulius, JD, and MAW and just freaking listen to them. And actually listen.
Clubs downtown literally have these rules besides the earrings. Yeah so 80s..
What the hell are you talking about, him seeing the writing on the wall with Harvey, makes him a dunce?
No...what makes that a dunce is to tell his friend and player before it was official or even thought about. From the article it sounds like the transfer player was unaware of his impending transfer. Either way if you can’t see the “dunce” in this move...here’s your sign
No...what makes that a dunce is to tell his friend and player before it was official or even thought about. From the article it sounds like the transfer player was unaware of his impending transfer. Either way if you can’t see the “dunce” in this move...here’s your sign
That’s what the player says after the fact, now.. we have been talking about how likely it was that Harvey would transfer all season. Now it was just speculation and he NEVER EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT IT. Sorry my BS radar is going off. Could he have been a little smarter about the way he dealt with it, possibly, but we don’t even know what was said. Again it’s all second hand speculation at this point. You really would call him a dunce if he was talking to a recruit and said there’s a possible chance of even more minutes opening up because I believe one of our players may transfer at the end of the season.. and you’re saying the kid should deal with that, without having any intention of transferring before just immediately decide he is going to transfer now and not even discuss it with the coach?
Lmao. So sounds like he like all of us thought, that Harvey would transfer.. again how dare he voice that. How dare he prepare for the future.
Say your boss guarantees you a promotion because the guy above you is getting a new job. Then you talk to the guy above you and he says we has no plan to leave.
That's what Brannen supposedly did and it's a complete dunce move.
It's fine to suspect a guy is transferring and prepare to the future. But you talk to the guy first and make sure of his plans. You don't promise guy A playing time because guy B is transferring unless you are sure guy B is transferring. There is plenty of room to give less definite statements.
Lmao. So sounds like he like all of us thought, that Harvey would transfer.. again how dare he voice that. How dare he prepare for the future.
Your reading the surface material and not understanding the underlying implications at all.
That’s what the player says after the fact, now.. we have been talking about how likely it was that Harvey would transfer all season. Now it was just speculation and he NEVER EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT IT. Sorry my BS radar is going off. Could he have been a little smarter about the way he dealt with it, possibly, but we don’t even know what was said. Again it’s all second hand speculation at this point. You really would call him a dunce if he was talking to a recruit and said there’s a possible chance of even more minutes opening up because I believe one of our players may transfer at the end of the season.. and you’re saying the kid should deal with that, without having any intention of transferring before just immediately decide he is going to transfer now and not even discuss it with the coach?
Again, it's all second hand so we don't know. But what you are saying isn't what is claimed to have happened.
I have no problem with John telling a recruit that minutes may be opening up.
Go back and look at my original post. The claim is he told a current player (my guess is Mason) that minutes would open up for him because another player (almost certainly Harvey) was expected to transfer. Maybe Harvey had considered transferring, but he didn't know he was expected to transfer.
Maybe that's not what was actually said. If Brannen told Mason his minutes may increase next year because Harvey may transfer (and Brannen had talked to Harvey and knew he may transfer), that's fine.
We can only judge based on second hand knowledge. But the sheer number of player defections and the consistency of them blaming Brannen and saying that Brannen lies and deceives indicates the first scenario is quite possibly the truth.
Bcatfollower
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Again, it's all second hand so we don't know. But what you are saying isn't what is claimed to have happened.
I have no problem with John telling a recruit that minutes may be opening up.
Go back and look at my original post. The claim is he told a current player (my guess is Mason) that minutes would open up for him because another player (almost certainly Harvey) was expected to transfer. Maybe Harvey had considered transferring, but he didn't know he was expected to transfer.
Maybe that's not what was actually said. If Brannen told Mason his minutes may increase next year because Harvey may transfer (and Brannen had talked to Harvey and knew he may transfer), that's fine.
We can only judge based on second hand knowledge. But the sheer number of player defections and the consistency of them blaming Brannen and saying that Brannen lies and deceives indicates the first scenario is quite possibly the truth.
Is there more than one player that has actually said Brannen lies and Deceives? I haven’t seen that yet
Your reading the surface material and not understanding the underlying implications at all.
I’m understanding completely I just have a different stance. And like I said I’m willing to see it both ways, it all depends on context. Did he PROMISE. Or did he discuss the possibility. Big difference. And right now your source material is a second hand source by way of an angry transfer.
