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waterhead said:
You can’t hire a new coach in a day. We lose the biggest transfer market in history if we were to fire now. You fire him and start a coaching search and that coach is way behind the 8 ball again
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But they can be actively making up their list of coaching candidates right now. If Brannen is fired I imagine the coaching search won't take long.

Also, we are pretty much in rebuild mode right now anyway. Firing Brannen would be about improving us 2/3 years down the line. Next year is looking like a wash no matter what.
 
cincyguy13 said:
If you are going to fire a guy with “cause”, you better have a strong case or it will cost you more money than buying the guy out. I haven’t heard anything that comes close to being able to fire the guy without paying him.

Even Justin Williams on mo egger today said the players said it wasn’t abuse or mean spirited, it was more of a trust issue. That’s not going to do it.
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All John Brannen did was stack the cards against himself being successful at UC.

He will face the consequence of this year for the rest of his time here in every recruiting battle he’s in where we compete with other high majors.
 
We all can hope all we want, but there is not enough to fire him from want we had heard. Not even close. If this was court, what would be your case? Players left? Ok. They said they don’t trust him? Ok
 
skyblade said:
But they can be actively making up their list of coaching candidates right now. If Brannen is fired I imagine the coaching search won't take long.

Also, we are pretty much in rebuild mode right now anyway. Firing Brannen would be about improving us 2/3 years down the line. Next year is looking like a wash no matter what.
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If they fire him do the guys that stayed transfer? Lol
 
Bcatfollower said:
Wsu loses to drake... exactly how they lost to uc with Gilbert taking the last 3
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I think WSU fans will be glad when Gilbert is gone. He takes way too many shots and makes way too many bad decisions for a guy who isn't that good of a shooter and is surrounded by elite shooters like Etienne and Dennis.

They need a Justin Jenifer type PG who is a distributor first and can knock down a three when open.
 
justinhub2003 said:
All John Brannen did was stack the cards against himself being successful at UC.

He will face the consequence of this year for the rest of his time here in every recruiting battle he’s in where we compete with other high majors.
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He definitely didn’t help his self, but you can’t just fire a guy and not pay him because of rumors. Especially when the worst rumors are that he lied. That’s not illegal.

Also he’s not the only coach in America that tell players lies. Not saying it’s right but we need to grow up a bit
 
cincyguy13 said:
We all can hope all we want, but there is not enough to fire him from want we had heard. Not even close. If this was court, what would be your case? Players left? Ok. They said they don’t trust him? Ok
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I think mental health of players would be their best bet. Who knows what the investigation will turn up, they've got a lot more info than we do.

Could there also be some sort of agreement, like either we fire you without cause but release the results of the investigation. Or keep the results quiet and you resign but we pay you 3 million.

Who knows. I think if they decide it's enough to fire him they will do so even if it means ponying up 4.5 mil. But I expect they will do their best to reduce or eliminate that number.
 
cincyguy13 said:
He definitely didn’t help his self, but you can’t just fire a guy and not pay him because of rumors. Especially when the worst rumors are that he lied. That’s not illegal.

Also he’s not the only coach in America that tell players lies. Not saying it’s right but we need to grow up a bit
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There is no cause. They either at paying up or he will be back.

Regardless JB certainly backed himself into a corner.
 
skyblade said:
I think mental health of players would be their best bet. Who knows what the investigation will turn up, they've got a lot more info than we do.

Could there also be some sort of agreement, like either we fire you without cause but release the results of the investigation. Or keep the results quiet and you resign but we pay you 3 million.

Who knows. I think if they decide it's enough to fire him they will do so even if it means ponying up 4.5 mil. But I expect they will do their best to reduce or eliminate that number.
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I mean COVID isn’t his fault. It’s not his fault the players can’t leave their room. If mental health is the best you got, might as well save your time
 
Bcatfollower said:
If they fire him do the guys that stayed transfer? Lol
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If they fire him do the guys who transferred stay?

All indications are that JD would stay no matter what. There are like 5 separate people on multiple forums claiming contacts with either JD's brother or Moeller boosters all saying that JD is staying because he loves Cincy and that he doesn't particularly like Brannen. Also rumors that he may be in wait and see mode and him staying isn't set in stone if Brannen isn't fired.

DDJ I think would stay as well. He's a senior and wouldn't be going up by transfer.

Who knows with MAW. I haven't seen even one hint that anyone knows what MAW is thinking.
 
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cincyguy13 said:
What
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Justin Williams posted an article “the rift with Cincinnati bearcats coach John Brannen that led to a mass exodus of basketball players” I don’t want to quote to much because that’s how Justin makes his living but a departing player was quoted as saying “ it’s just a very unfortunate, I wish it could have gone differently, I do not want to leave Cincinnati. Everything about Cincinnati is great. Except for one thing. Literally, one thing” obviously he didn’t name names. There a lot of decent stuff in there
 
cincyguy13 said:
He definitely didn’t help his self, but you can’t just fire a guy and not pay him because of rumors. Especially when the worst rumors are that he lied. That’s not illegal.

Also he’s not the only coach in America that tell players lies. Not saying it’s right but we need to grow up a bit
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I’m not saying it’s illegal. I’m just saying he just totally screwed this program up for at least 2 years.

We will get to watch ugly UC basketball all non conference next year, win a few against the bottom of the league and then ultimately get smashed by Houston in the conference tourney. Then JD likely thinks he’s a pro and leaves, the ones we hardly had time to evaluate transfer and then bam, back in to the same mess in year 4 of a rebuild,

John totally ****** him self with this 2020 class and it will come back to haunt him.

He’s also lost the fan base, no one believes in him. There are like 10 die hardship defending him. The rest want him to move on,

It is what it is
 
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cincyalum2014 said:
Justin Williams posted an article “the rift with Cincinnati bearcats coach John Brannen that led to a mass exodus of basketball players” I don’t want to quote to much because that’s how Justin makes his living but a departing player was quoted as saying “ it’s just a very unfortunate, I wish it could have gone differently, I do not want to leave Cincinnati. Everything about Cincinnati is great. Except for one thing. Literally, one thing” obviously he didn’t name names. There a lot of decent stuff in there
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It’s obviously they didn’t like the coach. The question for me is why. Are they sensitive, did COVID add to the negative environment, is brannen crazy, did brannen just approach it wrong? It’s probably a little of everything. It’s probably also a close group of players that had nothing but time to stew on all the negative. When in a normal year they could go have fun. Brannen isn’t innocent, obviously, but I don’t think the guy is the devil either
 

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