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[cincyguy13]

You couldn't be more wrong. P5 affiliation is huge. But your certainly entitled to your opinion. Have a nice day.

I think being in a p5 is more of a football thing. It definetly doesn't hurt but Many jobs in non p5 leagues are better than low to mid tier p5 programs.

 

[justinhub2003]

I think being in a p5 is more of a football thing. It definetly doesn't hurt but Many jobs in non p5 leagues are better than low to mid tier p5 programs.

Dude P5 + BE means a ton, especially for recruiting.

Of next years top 50 recruiting classes, only 5 teams are not from the Power 6 conferences.

#24 is Colorado
#33 is TCU
#11 is Illinois
#36 is Auburn
#44 is Ole Miss
#55 is LSU

All those schools are not as good of programs as UC but their affiliation with the P6 has them with higher rated recruiting classes than UC.

 

[cincyguy13]

Dude P5 + BE means a ton, especially for recruiting.

Of next years top 50 recruiting classes, only 5 teams are not from the Power 6 conferences.

#24 is Colorado
#33 is TCU
#11 is Illinois
#36 is Auburn
#44 is Ole Miss
#55 is LSU

All those schools are not as good of programs as UC but their affiliation with the P6 has them with higher rated recruiting classes than UC.

This information does not help my argument, I'll admit that. Lol

 

[NKY Bearcat]

Dude P5 + BE means a ton, especially for recruiting.

Of next years top 50 recruiting classes, only 5 teams are not from the Power 6 conferences.

#24 is Colorado
#33 is TCU
#11 is Illinois
#36 is Auburn
#44 is Ole Miss
#55 is LSU

All those schools are not as good of programs as UC but their affiliation with the P6 has them with higher rated recruiting classes than UC.

We are talking about which schools are a better job. Not which have a good recruiting class this year, and often ratings don't mean much, see Quadri Moore.

Bringing in 4 to 5 guys because your program is depleted results in a high ranking classes, but doesn't make the results on the court better. Also teams that are terrible tend to have at least playing time they can offer. So getting 4 high recruits 1 year, may result in a terrible class the next.

We can always cherry pick schools to prove our argument.

#72 Tennesse
#80 Kansas State
#90 Baylor
#81 Notre Dame
#94 NC State
#97 Missouri
#99 Northwestern
#109 Nebraska
#125 Virginia (Does this ranking make them a bad program?)
#141 Rutgers
#150 Penn State (Tired for last with 0 recruits that matter)
#150 Washington State
#??? Boston College (Apparently doesn't even have a recruit)

 

[Jrmytg]

Akron's home winning streak comes to an end. Kent State beats Akron 70-67.

 

[justinhub2003]

We are talking about which schools are a better job. Not which have a good recruiting class this year, and often ratings don't mean much, see Quadri Moore.

Bringing in 4 to 5 guys because your program is depleted results in a high ranking classes, but doesn't make the results on the court better. Also teams that are terrible tend to have at least playing time they can offer. So getting 4 high recruits 1 year, may result in a terrible class the next.

We can always cherry pick schools to prove our argument.

#72 Tennesse
#80 Kansas State
#90 Baylor
#81 Notre Dame
#94 NC State
#97 Missouri
#99 Northwestern
#109 Nebraska
#125 Virginia (Does this ranking make them a bad program?)
#141 Rutgers
#150 Penn State (Tired for last with 0 recruits that matter)
#150 Washington State
#??? Boston College (Apparently doesn't even have a recruit)

My main point was not Cherry picked. 5/50 were from non P6 conferences. Just 10% of the top 50 recruiting classes came from non power leagues.

Whats a job if your limited on the players you can choose from? Mick has coached and developed his players and program into national relevance. Most young star players want to play in a league that will get them a ton of exposure..

I listen to about 10-12 College basketball podcasts and all the national ones, rarely mention any leagues out side of the p6 power structure. They'd rather talk about a losing Syracuse team in the ACC than talking about 2 winning programs in the American. And they only talk about us when we force their hand to.

Exposure is everything. You don't get much exposure in non power leagues. The American is actually kinda lucky in that we have the ESPN deal. Most other non P6 leagues are rarely on TV, or are on Friday nights or on NBC sports channel which no one watches.

IF you move from the lowest p5 school ( like Rutgers or Depaul) sure, the very very top end of the non P6 schools are better. But I'd take Depaul or Rutgers over the bottom 7 jobs in our league.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

My main point was not Cherry picked. 5/50 were from non P6 conferences. Just 10% of the top 50 recruiting classes came from non power leagues.

Whats a job if your limited on the players you can choose from? Mick has coached and developed his players and program into national relevance. Most young star players want to play in a league that will get them a ton of exposure..

I listen to about 10-12 College basketball podcasts and all the national ones, rarely mention any leagues out side of the p6 power structure. They'd rather talk about a losing Syracuse team in the ACC than talking about 2 winning programs in the American. And they only talk about us when we force their hand to.

Exposure is everything. You don't get much exposure in non power leagues. The American is actually kinda lucky in that we have the ESPN deal. Most other non P6 leagues are rarely on TV, or are on Friday nights or on NBC sports channel which no one watches.

IF you move from the lowest p5 school ( like Rutgers or Depaul) sure, the very very top end of the non P6 schools are better. But I'd take Depaul or Rutgers over the bottom 7 jobs in our league.

So if we're considered a Top 5 program that isn't in the "P6", we should be fine. Especially with a renovated arena.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Akron's home winning streak comes to an end. Kent State beats Akron 70-67.

Are we now #2 behind Oregon?

 

[Jrmytg]

Are we now #2 behind Oregon?

Oregon 40
New Mexico State 25
Cincinnati 23
Arizona 20
SMU 20

 

[juckerrules]

a propos of nothing....just looking at Iowa States schedule...they are so us last year - losing to Gonzaga by 2, UC by 1 in ot, Baylor by 2, Texas by 2, Kansas by 4...just a basket here or there from being top 15 - brings back frustrating memories of last year

 

[juckerrules]

Please Houston

Last best chance for SMU to lose...after the way they hammered Houston earlier, I have my doubts, but Houston has been playing well of late & we all know about that home court thing...Go Cougs!

 

[NKY Bearcat]

My main point was not Cherry picked. 5/50 were from non P6 conferences. Just 10% of the top 50 recruiting classes came from non power leagues.

Whats a job if your limited on the players you can choose from? Mick has coached and developed his players and program into national relevance. Most young star players want to play in a league that will get them a ton of exposure..

I listen to about 10-12 College basketball podcasts and all the national ones, rarely mention any leagues out side of the p6 power structure. They'd rather talk about a losing Syracuse team in the ACC than talking about 2 winning programs in the American. And they only talk about us when we force their hand to.

Exposure is everything. You don't get much exposure in non power leagues. The American is actually kinda lucky in that we have the ESPN deal. Most other non P6 leagues are rarely on TV, or are on Friday nights or on NBC sports channel which no one watches.

IF you move from the lowest p5 school ( like Rutgers or Depaul) sure, the very very top end of the non P6 schools are better. But I'd take Depaul or Rutgers over the bottom 7 jobs in our league.

My point is it simply a power 5 job is not necessarily better. You just said 45 of the top 50 are power 5. Not that many power 5 team will be making the tournament in 4 years, and coaches will be fired.

 

[Garybearcat]

VT beating Louisville 51-49
Duke tied with WF 51-51
Miss St crushing Florida 5-0 ......hope this score holds up

 

[prancer]

I f*****g hate duke.

 

[Bearcat_NTS]

VT beating Louisville 51-49
Duke tied with WF 51-51
Miss St crushing Florida 5-0 ......hope this score holds up

Louisville won 94-90 in a game with 62 possessions. Unbelievable.

 

[Bcatfollower]

My point is it simply a power 5 job is not necessarily better. You just said 45 of the top 50 are power 5. Not that many power 5 team will be making the tournament in 4 years, and coaches will be fired.

The argument you're making makes it sound like p5 schools have high expectations of success or the coach is out... That is every program regardless of conference. The other point is that no coach worth anything doesn't believe they won't succeed... So if the job interests a coach they aren't thinking they will be gone in four years.

 

[mdchick]

Idk why but I just watched the Utah Oregon state game Oregon state trailed by 12 with 3 minutes left and came back and won. Oregon state is 4-23 so that just about knocks Utah out of the tourney for good.

 

[Cats2016FF]

Idk why but I just watched the Utah Oregon state game Oregon state trailed by 12 with 3 minutes left and came back and won. Oregon state is 4-23 so that just about knocks Utah out of the tourney for good.

Yeah that game killed my ticket tonight lol. Can't believe that blew that game, was a complete meltdown.

 

[Bearcat_NTS]

Go ahead and lock in Miami with the win at Virginia tonight. Would love to see UVA in a 4/5 game (if they don't fall even further).

 

[prancer]

Virginia didn't even reach 50 in their loss... at home... in overtime.