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Defense was garbage, but that is kind of expected at this point.

Cobb, Morman, Ellis, and dare i say it, Jermaine Sanders, all looked better than expected.

Shaq's jumper still flat, DeBerry huge but slow, Guyn looked shaky, and Strickland is a high school player that got a scholarship because he's 6'10.
 
14 turnovers and 7 were committed by Shaq Thomas and Kevin Johnson. I think Kevin Johnson has the potential to be an outstanding player, but he has to learn to take care of the ball. Morman is going to take minutes from one of these guys if this continues. Shaq remains a mystery and mentally I wonder if he is strong enough to do what it takes to take the next step.

Troy is another guy that needs to step up but he wasn't bad finishing with 10 points and 3 assists in 19 minutes. It's that time when feet are going to be put to the fire. Its early but now it's time we start seeing who plays well in practice and who performs in games. As Huggs once said there are a lot of 3:00 All Americans.

DeBerry had a big zero in the rebound column in 11 minutes. Totally unacceptable. Kevin Johnson outrebounded Deberry, Moore, and Strickland combined with 3 boards.
 
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14 turnovers and 7 were committed by Shaq Thomas and Kevin Johnson. I think Kevin Johnson has the potential to be an outstanding player, but he has to learn to take care of the ball. Morman is going to take minutes from one of these guys if this continues. Shaq remains a mystery and mentally I wonder if he is strong enough to do what it takes to take the next step.

Troy is another guy that needs to step up but he wasn't bad finishing with 10 points and 3 assists in 19 minutes. It's that time when feet are going to be put to the fire. Its early but now it's time we start seeing who plays well in practice and who performs in games. As Huggs once said there are a lot of 3:00 All Americans.

DeBerry had a big zero in the rebound column in 11 minutes. Totally unacceptable. Kevin Johnson outrebounded Deberry, Moore, and Strickland combined with 3 boards.


Oct had 2
Shaquille had 4
Clark 1
Guyn 1
Moore 1
Mormon 1
Tm team 1
Johnson 3

These guys will have plenty of greats days!
 
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I thought the team looked good. We must all put in perspective, it's pre season. Moore and Moorman stood out for me. At the end of the game when Bellarmine was close, Moorman was put on their best player 33 and shut him down. The Bellarmine player was even swatting at Moorman a couple of times. The team was not standing around waiting for Kilpatrick to do something, but playing like an unselfish team. #21 Cobb looked good. He ran the floor well, defended well, good looking stroke from all over the court and plays hard. Sanders had 3 or 4 3 pointers all looked very good, a couple of times his shots were highly contested clutch shots. Sanders looked very good. Caupain was solid on both sides of the court although he did get beat a couple of times. Kevin Johnson's shooting was off but defensively he looked good. Deberry looked solid on both ends, rebounding, positioning, offense and Ellis also looked outstanding. He was all over the place, rebounding, defense, running the court, dribbling, passing, excellent. Overall, I was very encouraged by the talent level, effort and results. Gary Clark did not look bad at all, he just did not score. He passed a couple of times under the basket when he could have taken shots, made some nice cuts and passes. Cronin said in the paper he was very nervous. Something he needs to get over. Thomas still shooting line drives, but looked good. I think Cronin had him in the 4 position which I'm not sure is his best position. The starting lineup was Ellis, Guyn, Thomas, Caupain and Clark. Personally, I would have started a younger line up including Caupain-1, Johnson-2, Clark-3, Moore-4 Ellis-5. Sanders coming off the bench at 6 and Guyn 7th off the bench. Deberry should get alot of time, Cobb and Thomas.
 
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I thought the team looked good. We must all put in perspective, it's pre season. Moore and Moorman stood out for me. At the end of the game when Bellarmine was close, Moorman was put on their best player 33 and shut him down. The Bellarmine player was even swatting at Moorman a couple of times. The team was not standing around waiting for Kilpatrick to do something, but playing like an unselfish team. #21 Cobb looked good. He ran the floor well, defended well, good looking stroke from all over the court and plays hard. Sanders had 3 or 4 3 pointers all looked very good, a couple of times his shots were highly contested clutch shots. Sanders looked very good. Caupain was solid on both sides of the court although he did get beat a couple of times. Kevin Johnson's shooting was off but defensively he looked good. Deberry looked solid on both ends, rebounding, positioning, offense and Ellis also looked outstanding. He was all over the place, rebounding, defense, running the court, dribbling, passing, excellent. Overall, I was very encouraged by the talent level, effort and results. Gary Clark did not look bad at all, he just did not score. He passed a couple of times under the basket when he could have taken shots, made some nice cuts and passes. Cronin said in the paper he was very nervous. Something he needs to get over. Thomas still shooting line drives, but looked good. I think Cronin had him in the 4 position which I'm not sure is his best position. The starting lineup was Ellis, Guyn, Thomas, Caupain and Clark. Personally, I would have started a younger line up including Caupain-1, Johnson-2, Clark-3, Moore-4 Ellis-5. Sanders coming off the bench at 6 and Guyn 7th off the bench. Deberry should get alot of time, Cobb and Thomas.


I totally agree with you! :)
 
I was extremely impressed. Ellis is the real deal. No reason why this team can't finish 2nd or 1st in aac and make a serious March/April run. Smu will be tough at their place but other than that we should be good
 
It's Morman***

Not Mormon
Not Moorman
Not Moormon
Not More Man
Sorry, I've just seen it 80 different ways on here and it's bugging me. Spell our player's names right people.
 
It's Morman***

Not Mormon
Not Moorman
Not Moormon
Not More Man
Sorry, I've just seen it 80 different ways on here and it's bugging me. Spell our player's names right people.

I've noticed that to people on here know the whole roster but can't spell there names its not that hard. They mess up Morman and DeBerry all the time.
 
It's Morman***

Not Mormon
Not Moorman
Not Moormon
Not More Man
Sorry, I've just seen it 80 different ways on here and it's bugging me. Spell our player's names right people.

I think I may be able to help with the Pan-Pam dilemma. Pand...There's a D on the end.
 

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I thought the team looked good. We must all put in perspective, it's pre season. Moore and Moorman stood out for me. At the end of the game when Bellarmine was close, Moorman was put on their best player 33 and shut him down. The Bellarmine player was even swatting at Moorman a couple of times. The team was not standing around waiting for Kilpatrick to do something, but playing like an unselfish team. #21 Cobb looked good. He ran the floor well, defended well, good looking stroke from all over the court and plays hard. Sanders had 3 or 4 3 pointers all looked very good, a couple of times his shots were highly contested clutch shots. Sanders looked very good. Caupain was solid on both sides of the court although he did get beat a couple of times. Kevin Johnson's shooting was off but defensively he looked good. Deberry looked solid on both ends, rebounding, positioning, offense and Ellis also looked outstanding. He was all over the place, rebounding, defense, running the court, dribbling, passing, excellent. Overall, I was very encouraged by the talent level, effort and results. Gary Clark did not look bad at all, he just did not score. He passed a couple of times under the basket when he could have taken shots, made some nice cuts and passes. Cronin said in the paper he was very nervous. Something he needs to get over. Thomas still shooting line drives, but looked good. I think Cronin had him in the 4 position which I'm not sure is his best position. The starting lineup was Ellis, Guyn, Thomas, Caupain and Clark. Personally, I would have started a younger line up including Caupain-1, Johnson-2, Clark-3, Moore-4 Ellis-5. Sanders coming off the bench at 6 and Guyn 7th off the bench. Deberry should get alot of time, Cobb and Thomas.
Clark cannot and will not play the 3 spot. That position will be occupied by Sanders, Thomas or a 3rd guard...
 
I thought the team looked good. We must all put in perspective, it's pre season. Moore and Moorman stood out for me. At the end of the game when Bellarmine was close, Moorman was put on their best player 33 and shut him down. The Bellarmine player was even swatting at Moorman a couple of times. The team was not standing around waiting for Kilpatrick to do something, but playing like an unselfish team. #21 Cobb looked good. He ran the floor well, defended well, good looking stroke from all over the court and plays hard. Sanders had 3 or 4 3 pointers all looked very good, a couple of times his shots were highly contested clutch shots. Sanders looked very good. Caupain was solid on both sides of the court although he did get beat a couple of times. Kevin Johnson's shooting was off but defensively he looked good. Deberry looked solid on both ends, rebounding, positioning, offense and Ellis also looked outstanding. He was all over the place, rebounding, defense, running the court, dribbling, passing, excellent. Overall, I was very encouraged by the talent level, effort and results. Gary Clark did not look bad at all, he just did not score. He passed a couple of times under the basket when he could have taken shots, made some nice cuts and passes. Cronin said in the paper he was very nervous. Something he needs to get over. Thomas still shooting line drives, but looked good. I think Cronin had him in the 4 position which I'm not sure is his best position. The starting lineup was Ellis, Guyn, Thomas, Caupain and Clark. Personally, I would have started a younger line up including Caupain-1, Johnson-2, Clark-3, Moore-4 Ellis-5. Sanders coming off the bench at 6 and Guyn 7th off the bench. Deberry should get alot of time, Cobb and Thomas.

I agree with your assessment of Moore and Morman. I was really impressed with both players....actually somewhat shocked with how good Moore looked. I'm very excited by what I saw from him. I don't know if we saw the real Morman or an anomaly, but he looked damn good! If he plays anywhere near how he looked the other night on a consistent basis, he'll be hard to keep out of the lineup. I have friends who attend practice on a regular basis and say he's the worst shooter on the team, but he sure didn't show that the other night.

I disagree with your assessment of Caupain being solid on both ends of the court. Guys went around him like he was a telephone pole. He's still pretty weak defensively, but brings things to the offense that are badly needed. Clark showed me nothing. He looked slow and didn't seem to be an "effort" guy. Again, my friends who attend practice say he has been phenominal, so I'll assume his performance against Bellarmine was an anomaly.

Overall, I see a lot more potential from this team than any Mick has coached since he's been here. I think the days of our games being like watching paint dry are a thing of the past. This team will be entertaining and fun to watch. Defense will be a work-in-process all season, but the improved offense could more than negate the losses on defense.
 
offense

I want the best of both worlds, naturally...fluid offense and strangling "D", but when it all comes down, if I have to lose, let me lose 89-86 instead of 46-43.
 
I want the best of both worlds, naturally...fluid offense and strangling "D", but when it all comes down, if I have to lose, let me lose 89-86 instead of 46-43.

Agreed, I still have nightmares and flashbacks to the Pitt game last year. We won something like 42-41 and set offensive basketball back 50 years. The telecast was pretty offensive, but not in a basketball sense. But yes, it would be nice to watch some entertaining offense for a change and also hope the defense comes around.
 
Agreed, I still have nightmares and flashbacks to the Pitt game last year. We won something like 42-41 and set offensive basketball back 50 years. The telecast was pretty offensive, but not in a basketball sense. But yes, it would be nice to watch some entertaining offense for a change and also hope the defense comes around.

44-43
 
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