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UC football went to the equivalent of the Final 4 when they played in the 2009 Orange Bowl and the 2010 Sugar Bowl. UC basketball has not been to a Final 4 in 20 years. Also UC/Conference received $20 million for each BCS game while each participant/conference receives $2 million for playing in the Final 4. That makes Football 10 times more relevant then basketball.

Honestly, an I've made this argument in the past, It's probably a heck of a lot easier for a school like UC to get to the Sugar/Orange bowl than to the final four. Not really a knock on UC bball, more so I think it's a lot easier to get to the orange bowl, especially playing in the Big East.

In my opinion, getting to the final four is a much better accomplishment.
 
Big East presidents and chancellors voted Monday to “engage in formal discussions” with potential new members and are considering expanding to a 12-team football league.

The league is currently fighting to stay afloat after Pittsburgh and Syracuse abruptly announced they were joining the Atlantic Coast Conference, then TCU, which was slated to join next season, announced Monday that it would instead become a Big 12 member.

The Big East is down to only six football-playing schools — Louisville, Cincinnati, West Virginia, Rutgers, Connecticut and South Florida. Pitt and Syracuse must stay for another 27 months because of to an exit agreement signed in 2003 when Virginia Tech, Miami and Boston College left the league for the ACC.

The top two targets have reportedly been Navy and Air Force. Boise State, which would bring much needed BCS credibility to the league, has reportedly also emerged in talks. Other schools often mentioned as potential candidates include Temple and Central Florida, which would join the league in all sports.

U of L President Dr. James Ramsey hinted to The Courier-Journal on Saturday that television markets, in part, will drive the expansion.

“The money that’s available for the TV contracts and what’s happening in the media market is really making it more lucrative for conferences,” he said. “The conferences need quality and quantity of product, and so each conference is trying to position itself to get the best media contract it can get.”

The Big East turned down a new deal with ESPN in the spring, which would have nearly doubled the payoff from $6 million to slightly more than $11 million to each school .

The possibility remains that the Big East could lose more schools should the Big 12 decide it wants to re-expand to 12. Missouri will likely play a key role in that decision. The Tigers have openly flirted with the idea of joining the Southeastern Conference.

But SEC leaders also met Monday for their regularly scheduled fall session and decided not to take any action on expansion. The league will have 13 members once Texas A&M, which started this year’s wave of realignment by leaving the Big 12, joins in July.

If Missouri follows Texas A&M, the Big 12 could seek to add three more members. U of L, along with West Virginia and Cincinnati, reportedly have been mentioned as targets.

Ramsey said he believed the next realignment move would only be temporary.

http://www.courier-journal.com/arti...ge-from-smoke?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Sports
 
If all the other team were committed to the Big East I dont think UC would go to the Big XII. I think they truley want to stay in Big East. If they got an offer they would be crazy to not jump as of right now. The main objective would be to find a way to raise buyouts to avoid raids.

There have been mutiple reports that said AF told the Big XII they were not interested in Big 12 and they would want Big East which is a good first step.
 
Btw LivingLegend UC was not waxed in the Orange bowl. They lost by 14 despite turning the ball over a bunch.

I think a lot of people here dismiss what the ralph says without reading it. I know you get annoyed by how he says it but instead of getting all up in arms about him saying UC turned down the big 12 he has made some good points that a bunch of you are missing.
 
If all the other team were committed to the Big East I dont think UC would go to the Big XII. I think they truley want to stay in Big East. If they got an offer they would be crazy to not jump as of right now. The main objective would be to find a way to raise buyouts to avoid raids.

There have been mutiple reports that said AF told the Big XII they were not interested in Big 12 and they would want Big East which is a good first step.

I thought the Big East had a pretty big buyout as it is? I heard some rumors that the buyout is one of the reasons it will be tough for Big East to get a lot of teams.
 
Honestly, an I've made this argument in the past, It's probably a heck of a lot easier for a school like UC to get to the Sugar/Orange bowl than to the final four. Not really a knock on UC bball, more so I think it's a lot easier to get to the orange bowl, especially playing in the Big East.

In my opinion, getting to the final four is a much better accomplishment.

You have to win the Big East Conference to get to the Orange and Sugar Bowl, you can finish in 9th place in the Big East (UConn) and win the basketball national championship. It is far easier to finish 9th than it is 1st.
 
I thought the Big East had a pretty big buyout as it is? I heard some rumors that the buyout is one of the reasons it will be tough for Big East to get a lot of teams.

The Big East buyout is $5 million, the ACC and Big 12 buyout is $20 million, but all is negotiable. The Big East buy in is also $5 million. The Big 12 buy in is something like $10 million. How would you like to be a school that pays $10 million to enter the Big 12 and a couple years later have Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State leave?

TCU paid the Big East $5 million to get in and will have to pay another $5 million to get out. How would you like to pay a conference $10 million and never play a game? Could be this is why TCU has not yet accepted the Big 12 invitation.
 
The Big East buyout is 5mm and that is not too much. Just for fun though, the SEC buyout is NOTHING. No insecurity there lol
 
Uh, no they didn't. No such thing. Also, just going to the BCS games doesn't make a team money. You know Uconn lost money by going to their BCS game last year, don't you? I wonder if they lost money going to the NC game. Since you think Football is 10 times more relevant, they must have lost a shit load of money.

UConn lost money going to the Fiesta Bowl because their "fans" only bought 4,000 tickets. UC sold 23,000 tickets to the Sugar Bowl.
 
The Big East buyout is $5 million, the ACC and Big 12 buyout is $20 million, but all is negotiable. The Big East buy in is also $5 million. The Big 12 buy in is something like $10 million. How would you like to be a school that pays $10 million to enter the Big 12 and a couple years later have Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State leave?

TCU paid the Big East $5 million to get in and will have to pay another $5 million to get out. How would you like to pay a conference $10 million and never play a game? Could be this is why TCU has not yet accepted the Big 12 invitation.[/QUOTE]

It was reported by ESPN last night that TCU has accepted the B12 invitation and will join the league in all sports for 2012. The money they recieve from the B12 TV deal will more than make up for the conference buy in and the 5 mil payout to the BE.
 
The Big East buyout is 5mm and that is not too much. Just for fun though, the SEC buyout is NOTHING. No insecurity there lol

But isn't it like 20 mill+ if they want to leave before the 27 month date. (which, is a ridiculous amount. IMO a year later should be good enough)
 
Right again Great One. You can finish 9th in the Big East (UConn) and win the basketball national championship.

So you are arguing it's harder for a team in the big east to get to the orange bowl vs going to the final four? That's ridiculous. You could win 7 games and make the orange bowl, beating only teams in the Big East.
 
You could beat only teams from whatever the hell conference GM and Butler are in and get into the tournament. Get on a hot streak and your good.

You really could not only win 7 games and get into the BCS. Maybe it is possible but it wouldnt happen.

If you want to play that game you could go winless in some conferences and get into the end of the year tournament and get really hot and make it in the tournament.

There are always those joke teams that are 14-18 getting into the tournament.
 
Getting into the tournament and getting to the final four are two very different things. I just think it's easier for a Big East school to win their conference in football and get to the orange bowl, vs get to the final four. You and ralph think it's more difficult for a Big East team to get to the orange bowl than the final four. I don't think you would find many people that agree with you on that, but I suppose that really doesn't matter.
 
For UC I think it is safe to say it is easier to get into a BCS game but what we need to consider is that UC is a football school.

ha
 
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