DontMissHim
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Ralph--still waiting on that link about UC rejecting the Big 12 offer.
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Instead of saying "we have rejected an offer from the Big 12" UC chooses to say "we are committed to the Big East". The Air Force AD stated publicly yesterday that Air Force rejected an invitation to the Big 12 in favor of joining the Big East.
TheLivingLegend
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Ralphy UC is basketball school and it has the championships plus players in the pros to back that statement up.
Wrong.
Per the Boston Globe:
According to sources in the Big East, the conference is looking at a plan which will invite Navy, Air Force and Boise State into the league as members in football only as well as Temple and Central Florida as members in all sports.
According to sources in the Big East, the conference is looking at a plan which will invite Navy, Air Force and Boise State into the league as members in football only as well as Temple and Central Florida as members in all sports.
TheLivingLegend
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UC basketball doesnt have championships and pro athletes?
Kenyon, Van exel, patterson, fortson...... alll made millions in the pros. Who from UC football has?
UC will always be a basketball school.
DontMissHim
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In other words--you have no proof an offer was extended. Thanks...next time, try to support your argument with facts instead of pulling stuff out of the air. You wonder why no one takes you seriously?
UC football currently has 10 players in the NFL. UC baseball currently has 3 players in MLB.
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LOL. You're serious, aren't you? I'm going to tell everyone that UC has not gotten an offer from Big 12, and my proof is "we are committed to the Big East."
In other words you have no proof that UC did not reject a Big 12 offer. Next time try to support your argument with facts. You wonder why no one takes you seriously?
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Is there a rule about trolling on this site?
DontMissHim
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I didn't anticipate you coming on here and admitting you completely made that up. I think this response is as close as I am going to get..
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To say UC is clearly a basketball school is insane.
UC football has won 2 league championships in the past 3 years, gone to two BCS games, had multiple peoples drafted, had 15 million dollars in donations for football specific donations.
I agree our history is with bball but I dont think you can say we are one or the other.
UC football has won 2 league championships in the past 3 years, gone to two BCS games, had multiple peoples drafted, had 15 million dollars in donations for football specific donations.
I agree our history is with bball but I dont think you can say we are one or the other.
I agree with The Great One.
JasonS
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The Big East has announced that they have given the commissioner the power to look at expanding to 12 teams for football. The schools in consideration are Army, Navy and AF for football only and Temple, UCF, Memphis, and East Carolina for all sports. Villanova is still a possibility to move up to FBS football and there are rumblings about Boise State for football only.
The Big East's only chance at survival at this point is to raise the buyout significantly, invite 6 additional football schools and find a cool venue to have the Big East title game for football. Maybe Yankee Stadium? I would like to see Temple and UCF added for all sports. I would love to see Boise State added for football. That alone could help keep the AQ past 2013. I don't think it happens though so realistically I would like to see the service acadamies and East Carolina added as the other schools. Memphis is so far away from being competitive in football it isn't even funny. This probably needs to happen (invites and buyout part) by the end of this week. Get something done BEFORE Missouri decides.
The Big East's only chance at survival at this point is to raise the buyout significantly, invite 6 additional football schools and find a cool venue to have the Big East title game for football. Maybe Yankee Stadium? I would like to see Temple and UCF added for all sports. I would love to see Boise State added for football. That alone could help keep the AQ past 2013. I don't think it happens though so realistically I would like to see the service acadamies and East Carolina added as the other schools. Memphis is so far away from being competitive in football it isn't even funny. This probably needs to happen (invites and buyout part) by the end of this week. Get something done BEFORE Missouri decides.
I would consider expanding only back to 8 if you believe the 6 you have now are solidly staying (which I still question). I am also basing this on the assumption that they don't overhaul the BCS and AQ status in 2013.
If it remains the same as it is today, they take the success of your top teams and then normalize it by the number of teams in your league. This is why the BE is so solid for maintaining AQ status. If you were to add, for instance, Air Force and Boise, the math says that is an AQ conference by a mile. If you add those 2 and 4 other schools, the math probably gets much, much worse. I'm thinking the BEST chance the BE has of remaining an AQ conf is to add only 2 teams and maximize the pull of Cincy, WV, and even Uconn who was in a BCS game last year.
If it remains the same as it is today, they take the success of your top teams and then normalize it by the number of teams in your league. This is why the BE is so solid for maintaining AQ status. If you were to add, for instance, Air Force and Boise, the math says that is an AQ conference by a mile. If you add those 2 and 4 other schools, the math probably gets much, much worse. I'm thinking the BEST chance the BE has of remaining an AQ conf is to add only 2 teams and maximize the pull of Cincy, WV, and even Uconn who was in a BCS game last year.
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You make a good point. What you have to remember though is the television contract. In order to maximize that you really need to get to 12 and have a conference championship game. If you add Temple or UCF along with Boise and AF, you are still fine as far as a BCS AQ goes. Memphis would hurt considerably and probably keeps them out. Navy has been decent, so that works and same with ECU. I think 12 can work. Boise may be the key ironically.
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How is that insane? What is the single biggest bowl game UC football has won? Papa Johns Bowl? Fort Worth Bowl? Cmonnn.
Frankly most of the Big East is made of basketball schools making it a soft football conference. UC happens to be one of them. Sure winning the Big East in football is nice, but until UC can recruit consistent elite players (which no one in the Big East can do), until UC can win a bowl game on the BCS level (which hopefully happens soon, but history shows otherwise), until UC football stays consistently relevant for 10 years, Ill call UC a basketball school all day long.
Frankly most of the Big East is made of basketball schools making it a soft football conference. UC happens to be one of them. Sure winning the Big East in football is nice, but until UC can recruit consistent elite players (which no one in the Big East can do), until UC can win a bowl game on the BCS level (which hopefully happens soon, but history shows otherwise), until UC football stays consistently relevant for 10 years, Ill call UC a basketball school all day long.
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You call them a basketball school because that is what you care about.
Look at the past 5 years and UC is clearly a football school. History is definitely on basketball side and we can recruit at a higher level on the basketball end of things but you can not call UC a basketball school.
It has been 50 years since UC Basketball won the NC.
UC/The Big East got a check for $20 million for playing in the Orange Bowl and another check for $20 million for playing in the Sugar Bowl. UC football is getting a check for $3.5 million for playing Virginia Tech at FedEx Field in 2013. 23,000 UC fans attended the Sugar Bowl in New Orleans, a mere 4,000 attended the Final Four in Minneapolis.
You are living in a long gone past, football rules college sports.