Personally, I think ND gets into the tournament if they win their first two games of the ACC tournament. They play Pittsburgh and then Virginia Tech, then get a shot at Duke. Win those first two games and that makes them 14-4 with Bonzi in the lineup (3-2 Q1/Q2). Regardless, it will be an interesting case, as I can't quite remember a similar scenario in the recent past. I saw them asking the head of the NCAA tournament committee about ND over the weekend and he was predictably noncommittal. Bonzi is not someone I would want to see us play in the tournament, given the issues we had containing a similar player like Morris from Wichita St.
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justinhub2003
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See I think we would match up well with them, they get most of their scoring from a few players. They don't have a ton of size. And certainly aren't used to playing defenses like ours, even if they did beat Texas Tech.
If we struggle with shaq morris, chances are we struggle angel Delgado.
I think we could beat them for sure but Rodriguez, Delgado, karington and Myles powell is a strong core.
Lol and they have plenty of size.
I agree. People like to talk about them beating Notre Dame with Bonzi Colson, but the committee knew about that on Feb 11th. I'm not buying the idea that Notre Dame is that much better with Bonzi anyway. With him in the lineup, ND is (1-2, 1-0, 2). They have two bad losses with Bonzi.
Yeah I've seen them play with and without. They're nothing special this year either way.
If we struggle with shaq morris, chances are we struggle angel Delgado.
I think we could beat them for sure but Rodriguez, Delgado, karington and Myles powell is a strong core.
Lol and they have plenty of size.
They're smaller at every position if you are talking broome instead of Jenifer. Delgado is a excellent rebounder and very good inside. He isn't a stretch threat at all really. And that plays to our strengths. Evans will be guarding their leading scorer. Like I said, I just think we match up well with them. And I'd love to play Aurburn in the sweet 16, they're just the same team without McLemore.
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PS I live how Trevor Moore is like our hype man, showing up on the front of articles. He may not end up doing a whole lot the rest of this season but he is gonna be a catalyst in the future, guaranteed.
I agree. He is the ultimate team player. Really impressed this season with how well he knew his role too.
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we are the last 2 seed on bracket matrix now
That's where we've been on Bart Torvik's bracketology since Sunday. I think his is by far the best real-time algorithm. The human bracketologists take a day or two to catch up. All of Torvik's protected seeds match bracketmatrix now, except he has Duke instead of Kansas for the last 1 seed. That's pretty impressive for a piece of code to be able to do that instantly. His site will be a great tool in the upcoming week to monitor how the seed list might be changing in real time, rather than waiting for bracktmatrix to update.we are the last 2 seed on bracket matrix now
http://barttorvik.com/tranketology.php
That's where we've been on Bart Torvik's bracketology since Sunday. I think his is by far the best real-time algorithm. The human bracketologists take a day or two to catch up. All of Torvik's protected seeds match bracketmatrix now, except he has Duke instead of Kansas for the last 1 seed. That's pretty impressive for a piece of code to be able to do that instantly. His site will be a great tool in the upcoming week to monitor how the seed list might be changing in real time, rather than waiting for bracktmatrix to update.
http://barttorvik.com/tranketology.php
Cool stuff! Looks like we are right on that 2 and 3 line. It's going to be a close call. I like that we were a 2 seed in the first reveal.
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I thought you all might like to see this.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MattNorlander/status/971067246079602690/photo/1
I thought you all might like to see this.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MattNorlander/status/971067246079602690/photo/1
I thought you all might like to see this.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MattNorlander/status/971067246079602690/photo/1
Looks like he kind of skirted around the question and still basically said "yea...losses don't matter because they're 18-21 year olds."
Nayers
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Looks like he kind of skirted around the question and still basically said "yea...losses don't matter because they're 18-21 year olds."
yea that was just a way to leave the wiggle room for the blue bloods so they can justify giving them better seeds than they deserve.
It actually reminds me of how Calipari talks to the media during a down year. "ya know, they're just kids playing a game"
hopefully uc gets the seed they deserve, which I think is a 2 at this point.
That's where we've been on Bart Torvik's bracketology since Sunday. I think his is by far the best real-time algorithm. The human bracketologists take a day or two to catch up. All of Torvik's protected seeds match bracketmatrix now, except he has Duke instead of Kansas for the last 1 seed. That's pretty impressive for a piece of code to be able to do that instantly. His site will be a great tool in the upcoming week to monitor how the seed list might be changing in real time, rather than waiting for bracktmatrix to update.
http://barttorvik.com/tranketology.php
It seems like he is adding new tools all the time or maybe I just hadn't played around enough. But on the same page you can see his T-Ranketology you can click on a link to Bracket Matrix to compare results.
You can also look at some history of how teams performed in the NCAA tourney who had similar resumes to ours. Or similar efficiencies.
It's a really fun site to play around on
Is there any real evidence for this? Last year the algorithms had Kansas and UNC as 1's, Duke and UK as 2's, and Michigan St as a 9. That's exactly where they all ended up.yea that was just a way to leave the wiggle room for the blue bloods so they can justify giving them better seeds than they deserve.
I saw that. Our efficiency profile most closely matches 2008 Wisconsin, who advanced to the Sweet 16 as a 3 seed.You can also look at some history of how teams performed in the NCAA tourney who had similar resumes to ours. Or similar efficiencies.
I saw that. Our efficiency profile most closely matches 2008 Wisconsin, who advanced to the Sweet 16 as a 3 seed.
Yah...it looked like we were a Sweet 16 or Elite 8 type of team according to history. Which makes sense if we are a 2 or 3 seed.
Is there any real evidence for this? Last year the algorithms had Kansas and UNC as 1's, Duke and UK as 2's, and Michigan St as a 9. That's exactly where they all ended up.
The more and more I research the less and less I feel a bias. T-rank would have had UC as a 6 last year and SMU as the last 5. That's pretty close.
Now there might be a little bit of bias here or there but it doesn't seem to be egregious. The wiggle room might provide for a seed line move but not a lot more really.
The more and more I research the less and less I feel a bias. T-rank would have had UC as a 6 last year and SMU as the last 5. That's pretty close.
Now there might be a little bit of bias here or there but it doesn't seem to be egregious. The wiggle room might provide for a seed line move but not a lot more really.
I guess I worry more about matchups but there is a methodology to how the protected seeds get placed as well. There is a contingency if one bracket gets loaded and one is too easy but other than that they probably stick to the script.
The only terrible seed that I can remember is when Oregon got a 12 seed five years ago. They were an 8 on bracketmatrix. While it was bad for Oregon, it was even worse for their first couple of opponents. They went on to the Sweet 16. Mis-seeding a team that badly can really mess up an entire pod. But that's the only case like that I can remember.
I thought you all might like to see this.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MattNorlander/status/971067246079602690/photo/1
Sounds like a memo put out by the committee, pretending to be transparent lol. Bunch of BS, sounds like he's just saying we pick who WE think is good, we don't care who they beat or lost to lol