Getting it all out in the open.

[Amberlycolonel]

Logan was not a pure shooter. Good shooter, yes. Pure shooter, no. He never shot higher than 45.7% from the floor in any season. He started as a 33% 3 point shooter at UC and only broke 40% once (sophomore year). Hardly a pure shooter.

Here are DerMarr's stats from his only year at UC:
Year GP MPG PPG FG% 3% FT% APG RPG BPG SPG
1999-00 32 27.5 12.6 47.8 37.1 73.7 1.4 3.8 0.9 1.0

Hardly a pure shooter.

Maybe you've "misremembered" your Bearcat history.

Steve Logan was not a pure shooter? You are out of your mind! His percentages are much higher than SK's. Talk about misremembering. I will give you this, Jason. As much as I dislike anything labelled Cronin, you match me step by step with your hatred for anything from the Huggins Era.

 

[JasonS]

Steve Logan was not a pure shooter? You are out of your mind! His percentages are much higher than SK's. Talk about misremembering.

And SK is not a pure shooter. Thank you for proving my point. SK came to UC as a slasher and through hard work, developed his shot. The numbers don't lie. Steve Logan was not a pure nor elite shooter. He was a great scorer but that does not make him a great shooter. But why let facts get in the way of anything?

 

[Amberlycolonel]

And SK is not a pure shooter. Thank you for proving my point. SK came to UC as a slasher and through hard work, developed his shot. The numbers don't lie. Steve Logan was not a pure nor elite shooter. He was a great scorer but that does not make him a great shooter. But why let facts get in the way of anything?

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/cincinnati/steve-logan/2000-2001
I disagree. Anyone who hovers around 40% from the 3 nearly all of his career is a shooter. And a damned good one at that.

 

[aronius]

Steve Logan was not a pure shooter? You are out of your mind! His percentages are much higher than SK's. Talk about misremembering.

Logan for his career was 37.8% from 3 and 43.4% overall.

Kilpatrick is 34.7% from 3 and 41.7% overall. Going into this season SK was 37.7% from 3.

Much higher? Logan had him from the line, otherwise they aren't that far apart.

 

[Amberlycolonel]

Logan for his career was 37.8% from 3 and 43.4% overall.

Kilpatrick is 34.7% from 3 and 41.7% overall. Going into this season SK was 37.7% from 3.

Much higher? Logan had him from the line, otherwise they aren't that far apart.

I am dumbfounded that someone is even trying to compare the 2. Steven Logan was a player of the year and All American. SK cannot even get on the BE squad.

 

[aronius]

I am dumbfounded that someone is even trying to compare the 2.

Just quoting statistics since you said...

His percentages are much higher than SK's

and are proven wrong once again.

To my knowledge, no one would argue SK is as good of a player as Logan.

 

[Gotcha23]

Are you seriously comparing Logan and SK??? That's like comparing Huggins with Mick

 

[L-T]

Logan was not a pure shooter. Good shooter, yes. Pure shooter, no. He never shot higher than 45.7% from the floor in any season. He started as a 33% 3 point shooter at UC and only broke 40% once (sophomore year). Hardly a pure shooter.

Here are DerMarr's stats from his only year at UC:
Year GP MPG PPG FG% 3% FT% APG RPG BPG SPG
1999-00 32 27.5 12.6 47.8 37.1 73.7 1.4 3.8 0.9 1.0

Hardly a pure shooter.

Maybe you've "misremembered" your Bearcat history.

Logan was a 1st Team All-American. He didn't get there with his shot blocking skills. He got there with his shooting, which was "pure". Anyone arguing any different is crazy. Dermarr was the number 3 pick in the NBA. He got that from his ability to shoot long range along with his size. For a "Freshman", he was as "pure" as you can get. And his draft pick reflects that.

 

[CaptDale]

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/cincinnati/steve-logan/2000-2001
I disagree. Anyone who hovers around 40% from the 3 nearly all of his career is a shooter. And a damned good one at that.

He sure made his FT's!

 

[CaptDale]

And SK is not a pure shooter. Thank you for proving my point. SK came to UC as a slasher and through hard work, developed his shot. The numbers don't lie. Steve Logan was not a pure nor elite shooter. He was a great scorer but that does not make him a great shooter. But why let facts get in the way of anything?

Just goes to show, HS does not translate to D1 ball. Now SK handling the ball and slashing is almost a guaranteed block or TO waiting to happen. Even when he leads the fastbreak, he's usually caught from behind and winds up at the FT line. If he gets to the hoop first, he, at least knows what to do with the ball - as you will see him bank it off the glass 99% of the time. No finger rolls or dunks. Good for him! May not generate much excitement, but it does generate points.

 

[JasonS]

Logan was a 1st Team All-American. He didn't get there with his shot blocking skills. He got there with his shooting, which was "pure". Anyone arguing any different is crazy. Dermarr was the number 3 pick in the NBA. He got that from his ability to shoot long range along with his size. For a "Freshman", he was as "pure" as you can get. And his draft pick reflects that.

Scorer is different than shooter. Logan was a scorer. He got to the free throw line A LOT and made the most of the opportunities.

 

[Bearcat04]

Logan was a 1st Team All-American. He didn't get there with his shot blocking skills. He got there with his shooting, which was "pure". Anyone arguing any different is crazy. Dermarr was the number 3 pick in the NBA. He got that from his ability to shoot long range along with his size. For a "Freshman", he was as "pure" as you can get. And his draft pick reflects that.

I guess you forgot about that Tulsa game in the tournament. Dermarr looked like he had never stepped foot on a basketball court before. He was 2-9 with numerous airballs. Nothing pure about that shooting effort.

 

[L-T]

I guess you forgot about that Tulsa game in the tournament. Dermarr looked like he had never stepped foot on a basketball court before. He was 2-9 with numerous airballs. Nothing pure about that shooting effort.

Yeah, that game probably caused him to drop to #3 in the NBA draft. Glad you could find one game where his shot wasn't pure. Bottom line, you can come up with all the BS you want. The facts back me up....#3.

 

[Bearcat04]

Yeah, that game probably caused him to drop to #3 in the NBA draft. Glad you could find one game where his shot wasn't pure. Bottom line, you can come up with all the BS you want. The facts back me up....#3.

The facts don't back you up. He was the #6 pick in the draft.

 

[Cats 01]

D.johnson lets face it was never a real difference maker. Not like a John wall or of the like . Could have been good.