Mick Cronin

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What he did with this years team was one of the best coaching jobs in the country

Agree, but he got exposed in the Iowa game a little bit. Why not go straight 2-3 to protect brooks. Wasn’t like the matchup was working so well you couldn’t change it. Or attack the press. We never put someone in the middle of it
 
Did we change anything? I could be wrong but it looked like we kept doing the same thing the whole game.
 
Weren’t we picked preseason 2nd or 3rd in the aac? So he achieved what was expected.... not over achieved.


we were picked 2nd. im not really sure where all this talk about us greatly exceeding expectations comes from.


we played much better than we thought we would through december, but then it turns out the teams we beat weren't as good as we thought they were going to be.



the team really didn't play well at all after the start of February outside of that tournament championship game vs houston.



at the end of the day we sit at 32 on kenpom right now but we have the highest luck factor we've ever had. i would say we hit the top range of expectations for the team (make the tournament, likely win no tournament games) but we definitely didn't greatly exceed them.
 
Why hold this year’s team accountable for last year’s result? They simply didn’t have the talent this year to make a run. Let’s be real, in October if we said hey we made the tournament as a 7 seed our reaction would be “excellent year.” What changed? We simply didn’t have the horses this season.

Agree, just change the word horses to shooters.
 
We had the athletes just not the shooters

I’ve been banging the “get shooters” drum forever but If you don’t have the shooters, don’t get in a shooting contest. Speed the game up. Beat the press. Get lay ups. Don’t slow the game down. I agree, our players weren’t great. Still could have beat Iowa
 
I’ve been banging the “get shooters” drum forever but If you don’t have the shooters, don’t get in a shooting contest. Speed the game up. Beat the press. Get lay ups. Don’t slow the game down. I agree, our players weren’t great. Still could have beat Iowa

People are banging the drum to the point where they don't realize they are banging the wrong drum. Just keep banging.

We had two of the 5 best three point shooters in the American and Broome was over 40% for the latter half of the season.

The biggest issue we had was lack of driving threats. Besides Cumberland we had no one who could regularly take their man off the bounce or finish at the basket. Iowa exposed that with their press, we'd break it and then be unable to take advantage - because no one besides Cumberland was a finisher off the drive.
 
People are banging the drum to the point where they don't realize they are banging the wrong drum. Just keep banging.

We had two of the 5 best three point shooters in the American and Broome was over 40% for the latter half of the season.

The biggest issue we had was lack of driving threats. Besides Cumberland we had no one who could regularly take their man off the bounce or finish at the basket. Iowa exposed that with their press, we'd break it and then be unable to take advantage - because no one besides Cumberland was a finisher off the drive.

I disagree, I think mick didn’t want to speed the game up. Thats been his style for years. That’s why they didn’t expose the press. They could have easily thrown over the top or put a guy in the middle to have a 3 on 2 break.
 
Loser Cronin

Let's face it Mick Cronin is no more qualified to coach UC basketball than I am.
But I know my limitations but the UC athletic director doesn't re Cronin. How many years do we have to suffer with this loser before a change is made? No one can tell me that UC does not have better players than a lot of teams that are still in the tournament. Cronin can't recruit top players because the better ones know better than to sign with UC.
 
Let's face it Mick Cronin is no more qualified to coach UC basketball than I am.
But I know my limitations but the UC athletic director doesn't re Cronin. How many years do we have to suffer with this loser before a change is made? No one can tell me that UC does not have better players than a lot of teams that are still in the tournament. Cronin can't recruit top players because the better ones know better than to sign with UC.

No change will be made as long as Mick wins 20-25 games a year and makes the Big Dance. UC has gone as far as Mick can take it. Sadly, this is the current state of Bearcat basketball.
 
Did we change anything? I could be wrong but it looked like we kept doing the same thing the whole game.
We started fronting Garza with Scott in the 2nd half. We also doubled him with a guard at times, especially when we had a four guard lineup. Didn't really matter what the defense was, Garza was hitting everything (4-4 from midrange and 2-3 from three). If your plan was to go straight 2-3, I think that would have failed miserably since we haven't done that all year.

After the 10 second violation we started to dribble into the double and passed it forward to Scott in a 3 on 2 situation. Scott doesn't have the skills to attack the basket. The one time he did he travelled. The rest he just turned around and waited for Jenifer.

In halfcourt offense we were able to get Cane in the corner a lot with a big on him. He had a decent game, but not the best considering his opportunities. He went 0-4 from three and travelled at least once trying to drive by Garza too quick. Cane had our highest usage rate, but the lowest ORtg among players with 10+ minutes. If he had made those shots, would we be praising Cronin for his great coaching? I doubt it.

Objectively, we did make adjustments, but our players didn't perform as well as Iowa's. Seems like everyone wants the adjustment to be as simple as "score more points" and "play better defense". Basketball doesn't work that way.

To me the biggest problem is that we were out-rebounded in a game where we should have owned the glass. Jarron, Cane and Trevor had a combined 4 rebounds in 67 minutes. That really hurt us.
 
Hypothetical, if we didn’t have a coach at all in the tournament games the last nine years, the players coached their selves. Would our record be better, worse, or the same. I honestly don’t know. We should accendentally win every once in a while. Kevin Ollie has a championship and he is terrible.
 
We started fronting Garza with Scott in the 2nd half. We also doubled him with a guard at times, especially when we had a four guard lineup. Didn't really matter what the defense was, Garza was hitting everything (4-4 from midrange and 2-3 from three). If your plan was to go straight 2-3, I think that would have failed miserably since we haven't done that all year.

After the 10 second violation we started to dribble into the double and passed it forward to Scott in a 3 on 2 situation. Scott doesn't have the skills to attack the basket. The one time he did he travelled. The rest he just turned around and waited for Jenifer.

In halfcourt offense we were able to get Cane in the corner a lot with a big on him. He had a decent game, but not the best considering his opportunities. He went 0-4 from three and travelled at least once trying to drive by Garza too quick. Cane had our highest usage rate, but the lowest ORtg among players with 10+ minutes. If he had made those shots, would we be praising Cronin for his great coaching? I doubt it.

Objectively, we did make adjustments, but our players didn't perform as well as Iowa's. Seems like everyone wants the adjustment to be as simple as "score more points" and "play better defense". Basketball doesn't work that way.

To me the biggest problem is that we were out-rebounded in a game where we should have owned the glass. Jarron, Cane and Trevor had a combined 4 rebounds in 67 minutes. That really hurt us.

We started fronting Garza because we were smaller. This isn’t an adjustment. It’s how you play defense when you are smaller. You don’t have a choice. If you are smaller and try to play behind him, you’re done.
 
We started fronting Garza because we were smaller. This isn’t an adjustment. It’s how you play defense when you are smaller. You don’t have a choice. If you are smaller and try to play behind him, you’re done.
You literally said "it looked like we kept doing the same thing the entire game." We didn't, whether or not you think we had a choice.
 
You literally said "it looked like we kept doing the same thing the entire game." We didn't, whether or not you think we had a choice.

This isn’t different. This is fundamental basketball if you are smaller. I’ll give you the other ones but fronting a bigger player is something that happens the whole game. Unless brooks was doing it
 
In halfcourt offense we were able to get Cane in the corner a lot with a big on him. He had a decent game, but not the best considering his opportunities. He went 0-4 from three and travelled at least once trying to drive by Garza too quick. Cane had our highest usage rate, but the lowest ORtg among players with 10+ minutes. If he had made those shots, would we be praising Cronin for his great coaching? I doubt it.


the thing i never really understood with the usage of cane and jenifer together was they seemed to play the wrong role. cane just isn't a corner 3 shooter, most of his makes are from up top. yes we got him open looks, but he just rarely makes them. plus cane is better on the ball than jenifer at creating. jenifer is clearly the better catch and shoot guy. even when he could catch and penetrate from the corner he just seemed uncomfortable there as well. he definitely did better with a straight on angle, maybe that was just his comfort zone.


im sure somebody will say something about turnovers, but its not really based on fact. since conference play started cane had a lower turnover rate and a much higher assist%.
 
We started fronting Garza with Scott in the 2nd half. We also doubled him with a guard at times, especially when we had a four guard lineup. Didn't really matter what the defense was, Garza was hitting everything (4-4 from midrange and 2-3 from three). If your plan was to go straight 2-3, I think that would have failed miserably since we haven't done that all year.

After the 10 second violation we started to dribble into the double and passed it forward to Scott in a 3 on 2 situation. Scott doesn't have the skills to attack the basket. The one time he did he travelled. The rest he just turned around and waited for Jenifer.

In halfcourt offense we were able to get Cane in the corner a lot with a big on him. He had a decent game, but not the best considering his opportunities. He went 0-4 from three and travelled at least once trying to drive by Garza too quick. Cane had our highest usage rate, but the lowest ORtg among players with 10+ minutes. If he had made those shots, would we be praising Cronin for his great coaching? I doubt it.

Objectively, we did make adjustments, but our players didn't perform as well as Iowa's. Seems like everyone wants the adjustment to be as simple as "score more points" and "play better defense". Basketball doesn't work that way.

To me the biggest problem is that we were out-rebounded in a game where we should have owned the glass. Jarron, Cane and Trevor had a combined 4 rebounds in 67 minutes. That really hurt us.

Also the 2-3 thing was simply to change it up and protect brooks. If you think it would have failed terribly, maybe it would have. But they scored 48 point and shot 50% from 3. Nevada did something similar. It couldn’t get much worse than those, I wouldn’t think. Maybe you think they would have scored 80
 
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