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bearcatfan1211 said:
Just curious...but where did he say this? I'd love to read it since he is somebody that actually does know what is going on.
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He has said it on two different radio shows and he just said it today in a twitter response to that purple buckeye guy on twitter. Unfortunately he doesn't post his responses to others publicly on his timeline so you have to search purple buckeyes feed
 
bearcatrunner said:
BearcatMick and Ralph:

Can the two of you please do me a favor? I would like you to forget all past stuff and look towards the future.

I would like you to answer these five questions the best you can. The person who is closest to getting three of the five correctly I will not ban from view. I would suggest that person just leave the forum when results are posted as to bring peace to the rest of us but I doubt either of you care about the rest of us enough to do this.

So here are my questions:

1.) What conference will UC end up in?
2.) By what date will they end up in this new conference?
3.) What seed will UC get in the tournament?
4.) Will UC end up in the NIT or the NCAA tournament?
5.) How far will they go? (sweet 16, one and done etc . . .)
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There are lots of variables. From what I've gathered from mcmurphy/chip brown of Texas rivals/Thamel is that the b1g is looking to add AT LEAST 2 more. If/when the b1g acts, the sec will add two and the b12 will add at least two.

Uc's best choices are acc and b12. Personally I hope the 4 major conferences become super conferences(all 16 teams or more) because then uc will have a great shot at getting into the b12.
 
BearcatMick said:
He has said it on two different radio shows and he just said it today in a twitter response to that purple buckeye guy on twitter. Unfortunately he doesn't post his responses to others publicly on his timeline so you have to search purple buckeyes feed
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Link?
 
bearcatrunner said:
BearcatMick and Ralph:

Can the two of you please do me a favor? I would like you to forget all past stuff and look towards the future.

I would like you to answer these five questions the best you can. The person who is closest to getting three of the five correctly I will not ban from view. I would suggest that person just leave the forum when results are posted as to bring peace to the rest of us but I doubt either of you care about the rest of us enough to do this.

So here are my questions:

1.) What conference will UC end up in?
2.) By what date will they end up in this new conference?
3.) What seed will UC get in the tournament?
4.) Will UC end up in the NIT or the NCAA tournament?
5.) How far will they go? (sweet 16, one and done etc . . .)
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I'm not afraid to post what I think will happen.

1. UC ends up in ACC
2. I think this happens by Oct. 1. Frankly, I could see this happening by July 1 but I'm giving myself a little leeway.
3. UC the last two years has gotten a higher seed than people thought. I think that continues. I see a 7 or 8 seed as of today.
4. NCAA lock
5. Depends on match ups more this year than previous years. I'll wait to see the draw before I make a prediction.
 
JasonS said:
I'm not afraid to post what I think will happen.

1. UC ends up in ACC
2. I think this happens by Oct. 1. Frankly, I could see this happening by July 1 but I'm giving myself a little leeway.
3. UC the last two years has gotten a higher seed than people thought. I think that continues. I see a 7 or 8 seed as of today.
4. NCAA lock
5. Depends on match ups more this year than previous years. I'll wait to see the draw before I make a prediction.
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Correct
 
JasonS said:
I'm not afraid to post what I think will happen.

1. UC ends up in ACC
2. I think this happens by Oct. 1. Frankly, I could see this happening by July 1 but I'm giving myself a little leeway.
3. UC the last two years has gotten a higher seed than people thought. I think that continues. I see a 7 or 8 seed as of today.
4. NCAA lock
5. Depends on match ups more this year than previous years. I'll wait to see the draw before I make a prediction.
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I should also add, that I think conference realignment will start again with the Big Ten. The Columbus Dispatch had some information recently from President Gee that he presented at a meeting. Through a freedom of information act request, the Dispatch got the transcript from the meeting and Gee basically said that "Nothing is finished" in terms of conference realignment.

There are some thoughts that the Big Ten is looking to crush the ACC to try and force ND into the Big Ten. I don't think that is quite their reasoning. Obviously, they would love to have ND but I think the most important thing to the Big Ten is to increase their footprint through their Big Ten Network. The short sided view of this is to just increase revenue for the conference through the television deal. Atlanta would be a huge get for the conference which is why Georgia Tech is so interesting to them. While GT's fan base is small, the Big Ten will be able to bully cable companies into putting the Big Ten Network on the standard package which means they would get every home, not just GT homes. That is where the money comes from.

The long term outlook goes far beyond athletics, in my opinion. The Big Ten has always prided itself as being a top notch research conference and that is the real reason schools like Virginia and Georgia Tech are so interesting to them and to other schools. There are reports that Purdue and Illinois are talking to Georgia Tech about how much money in research grants they could get by being in the Big Ten. The figures thrown out are an additional $1 Billion over 10 years. That money is way more valuable to an institution than the television money for athletics (which is still really nice BTW).

If you are a school like Georgia Tech or Virginia which are academic institutions above all else, that additional revenue in research money is a huge reason to leave and to do so sooner than later. People will want to say that Georgia Tech and to a lesser extent, Virginia won't be able to compete in the Big Ten with athletic budgets like Michigan or OSU. That is true but it's not like Georgia Tech is committed to putting a Championship level program on the football field right now any way.

Unless the ACC signs a grant of rights deal (which is not going to happen BTW), there is nothing anyone can say that will stop the speculation of the ACC getting raided.
 
I also stated that about a month ago that UC has a remote chance at big ten. Don't kid yourself into thinking you can predict what wi happen. Like I've said before. .. your conclusion that conference realignment is over suffers from the fallacy of the questionable premise. Your premises may be facts, but they are not certainties and the conclusion you've drawn is not contained within the premises. Your argument is weak. Admit you don't know, and that you are merely speculating.
 
RedlegZdid said:
I also stated that about a month ago that UC has a remote chance at big ten. Don't kid yourself into thinking you can predict what wi happen. Like I've said before. .. your conclusion that conference realignment is over suffers from the fallacy of the questionable premise. Your premises may be facts, but they are not certainties and the conclusion you've drawn is not contained within the premises. Your argument is weak. Admit you don't know, and that you are merely speculating.
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Keep on wishing and hoping the ACC breaks up but I do not consider that to be a likely event.
 
RedlegZdid said:
I also stated that about a month ago that UC has a remote chance at big ten. Don't kid yourself into thinking you can predict what wi happen. Like I've said before. .. your conclusion that conference realignment is over suffers from the fallacy of the questionable premise. Your premises may be facts, but they are not certainties and the conclusion you've drawn is not contained within the premises. Your argument is weak. Admit you don't know, and that you are merely speculating.
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Read the first post of this thread.
 
ralph1950 said:
Keep on wishing and hoping the ACC breaks up but I do not consider that to be a likely event.
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Did everyone just catch the old Ralphie slip?

Oh now it is not a "likely event". So now you are admitting a possibility unlike before

I remember the last time you backtracked

"The bball only schools will never leave the be. The can't make anywhere close to the money they make in the be"

A week later...

"The bball only schools will never join the a10"

The ralphinator changes the goalposts is the argument when proven wrong. That's his go to move.

B1G expansion followed by SEC and B12 expansion, followed by ACC expansion is coming.
 
BearcatMick said:
Did everyone just catch the old Ralphie slip?

Oh now it is not a "likely event". So now you are admitting a possibility unlike before

I remember the last time you backtracked

"The bball only schools will never leave the be. The can't make anywhere close to the money they make in the be"

A week later...

"The bball only schools will never join the a10"

The ralphinator changes the goalposts is the argument when proven wrong. That's his go to move.

B1G expansion followed by SEC and B12 expansion, followed by ACC expansion is coming.
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No school is going to leave the ACC, you are wrong, wrong, and more wrong!
 
BearcatMick said:
Time to change "The Ralph" to "The Wrong"

"All five conference commissioners privately reveal conference realignment isn't done and that the poaching will inevitably lead to the acc"

Paragraph 10

http://m.si.com/2243811/acc-needs-to-play-its-tournament-in-madison-square-garden/
Pete Thamel si
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Once again, a guy stating an opinion and ignoring fact.

Fact:

1) The President's of the ACC have publicaly stated no one is leaving
2) The ACC now has Notre Dame, I read yesterday that ND may up the football games to 6 a year vs the ACC, a home and home with Pitt as they have now plus 5 other games vs ACC
3) The ACC has a $52 million exit fee which takes away most of if not all of any financial gain a school may get by leaving
4) the AD's of both Ohio State and Michigan State have within the last 2 weeks stated that the Big 10 has no plan to expand in the immediate future
 
ralph1950 said:
Once again, a guy stating an opinion and ignoring fact.

Fact:

1) The President's of the ACC have publicaly stated no one is leaving - The Big East presidents said that too

2) The ACC now has Notre Dame, I read yesterday that ND may up the football games to 6 a year vs the ACC, a home and home with Pitt as they have now plus 5 other games vs ACC - The lure of the SEC, BIG 10 or Big 12 trumps a game with Notre Dame

3) The ACC has a $52 million exit fee which takes away most of if not all of any financial gain a school may get by leaving - pending litigation and is far from over

4) the AD's of both Ohio State and Michigan State have within the last 2 weeks stated that the Big 10 has no plan to expand in the immediate future - See # 1
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Bearcat22 said:
ralph1950 said:
Once again, a guy stating an opinion and ignoring fact.

Fact:

Read the first post of this thread.
1) The President's of the ACC have publicaly stated no one is leaving - The Big East presidents said that too

2) The ACC now has Notre Dame, I read yesterday that ND may up the football games to 6 a year vs the ACC, a home and home with Pitt as they have now plus 5 other games vs ACC - The lure of the SEC, BIG 10 or Big 12 trumps a game with Notre Dame

3) The ACC has a $52 million exit fee which takes away most of if not all of any financial gain a school may get by leaving - pending litigation and is far from over

4) the AD's of both Ohio State and Michigan State have within the last 2 weeks stated that the Big 10 has no plan to expand in the immediate future - See # 1
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