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L-T said:
....and like last night, players can make shots and bail the coach out of some questionable substitution decisions. It works both ways. And yes, I do think I could do his job, but we'll never be able to find that one out.
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UC shot 50% in the second half and 42% from 3. They worked the ball inside out. Not sure what you want. That's pretty efficient offense. Questionable substitutions? Short bench and foul trouble play a huge part in that. Again, they win by 11, are undefeated in league play, 16-2 overall, 19th in the country and we're having this discussion?
 
WAITE HOYT 2 said:
JJ couldn't disagree more.
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I like Rubles, he just isn't a zone buster. Thankfully, we don't face much zone, so it shouldn't be an issue most of the time. If he can post up one on one with someone, he becomes deadly, as he can finish well around the rim and he can pass really well if they try to help. Lawrence has a much better mid-range game than Rubles, but Rubles is much stronger and is better with the intangibles, such as passing and rebounding.
 
JumpinJack5 said:
I like Rubles, he just isn't a zone buster. Thankfully, we don't face much zone, so it shouldn't be an issue most of the time. If he can post up one on one with someone, he becomes deadly, as he can finish well around the rim and he can pass really well if they try to help. Lawrence has a much better mid-range game than Rubles, but Rubles is much stronger and is better with the intangibles, such as passing and rebounding.
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Couldn't be farther from the truth...
 
One thing that really stuck out to me last night was TC's passing. He's far and away the best passing player 1-3 on the team. Some of his entry passes were a thing of beauty and seemed effortless. Even when he's not scoring he can really impact a game. I really hope we get to the point we see him on the floor for 28+ minutes this year.

Another player who can really impact a game without scoring is Rubles. Obviously his D is off the charts but his ability to break down the D a little and make a sweet pass is really good too. That behind the back pass to JJ last night was pretty sick. He also had another unselfish pass to JJ that ended up with a dunk. His rebounding was great and 7 of 7 at the line. Big night for TR.

We have two A players in JJ and SK...and two B players in TR and TC. If you take any of these players off the court our potential as a team takes a pretty big hit.
 
L-T said:
....and like last night, players can make shots and bail the coach out of some questionable substitution decisions. It works both ways. And yes, I do think I could do his job, but we'll never be able to find that one out.
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Well at least we now know who to put on the shortlist in case Cronin ever leaves. (I kid, I kid)
 
JumpinJack5 said:
How so?
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Rubles and Jackson are the most important players against the zone. They can both play the high post effectively, are good passers and are good offensive rebounders. In fact Rubles was probably the reason UC won that game. In the second half, when he actually was passed the ball around 12-15 feet, Rubles got 3 straight touches and drove to the rim three times getting fouled twice and getting a three point play once.

UC will (and should) see more zone going forward and the way they will be effective is by passing the ball to Rubles in the high post and free throw line extended areas. From there he can attack the basket, which will set up shooters and will open up the drop off pass to Jackson or give Jackson the opportunity to post. Having an effective 4/5 man is the way to beat a 2-3 zone. So yes, he is VERY important against that defense.
 
Bearcat_NTS said:
Rubles and Jackson are the most important players against the zone. They can both play the high post effectively, are good passers and are good offensive rebounders. In fact Rubles was probably the reason UC won that game. In the second half, when he actually was passed the ball around 12-15 feet, Rubles got 3 straight touches and drove to the rim three times getting fouled twice and getting a three point play once.

UC will (and should) see more zone going forward and the way they will be effective is by passing the ball to Rubles in the high post and free throw line extended areas. From there he can attack the basket, which will set up shooters and will open up the drop off pass to Jackson or give Jackson the opportunity to post. Having an effective 4/5 man is the way to beat a 2-3 zone. So yes, he is VERY important against that defense.
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exactly. I wish him or JJ could hit that free throw line shot. That would make them even more effective against the zone.
 
Never really posted these, but just an FYI after every win the Bearcats Channel on YouTube posts a highlight video. Just to let you guys know if you already didn't. Here's the one from Temple!
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8shPSUNZZc&list=UU0y5liiwMlVZRPpHANy5ROA&feature=c4-overview[/ame]
 
Bearcat_NTS said:
Rubles and Jackson are the most important players against the zone. They can both play the high post effectively, are good passers and are good offensive rebounders. In fact Rubles was probably the reason UC won that game. In the second half, when he actually was passed the ball around 12-15 feet, Rubles got 3 straight touches and drove to the rim three times getting fouled twice and getting a three point play once.

UC will (and should) see more zone going forward and the way they will be effective is by passing the ball to Rubles in the high post and free throw line extended areas. From there he can attack the basket, which will set up shooters and will open up the drop off pass to Jackson or give Jackson the opportunity to post. Having an effective 4/5 man is the way to beat a 2-3 zone. So yes, he is VERY important against that defense.
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Rubles usually settles for jumpers in that spot, if he stuck to attacking the rim and playing some post he would be much better off. Rubles just can't shoot, he has to realize that. I think Caupain would be an interesting player to stick in the middle of the zone. He is an excellent passer and he is also good about attacking the rim, plus he could probably hit the mid-range jumper more often than Rubles. If we have SK bring the ball up, which we do sometimes, have Caupain flash in the high post with JJ and Rubles on the blocks, along with Sanders and SK on the perimeter waiting to shoot. That is the most effective way to break zones, IMO.
 
WAITE HOYT 2 said:
exactly. I wish him or JJ could hit that free throw line shot. That would make them even more effective against the zone.
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My point exactly. I love Rubles and JJ, but that jumper isn't their game. JJ has realized that and become a much more effective player, and I'm hoping Rubles does the same, as he could be even better than he is already.
 
JumpinJack5 said:
Rubles usually settles for jumpers in that spot, if he stuck to attacking the rim and playing some post he would be much better off. Rubles just can't shoot, he has to realize that. I think Caupain would be an interesting player to stick in the middle of the zone. He is an excellent passer and he is also good about attacking the rim, plus he could probably hit the mid-range jumper more often than Rubles. If we have SK bring the ball up, which we do sometimes, have Caupain flash in the high post with JJ and Rubles on the blocks, along with Sanders and SK on the perimeter waiting to shoot. That is the most effective way to break zones, IMO.
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Rubles scored all of his points in the second half yesterday against the zone, they started out in man in the first half and then switched to zone in the second. so Idk if your point makes sense.....
 
mdchick said:
Rubles scored all of his points in the second half yesterday against the zone, they started out in man in the first half and then switched to zone in the second. so Idk if your point makes sense.....
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But my point is where did those points come from? 1) the low block and 2) getting fouled on the low block and hitting free throws. He can't hit the mid range jumper. He is a fine player, but that is not his game. Putting him on the block where he can make some nice passes and post up and score like he did early on against Houston is where he is at his best. Not one time yesterday did you see him shoot his mid range jumper and make it and it is a reoccurring theme. He can rebound, pass, dunk, play good d, and finish around the rim, those are his strengths, IMO.
 
waterhead said:
TR was 7 of 7 from the FT line
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I think he means as a mid range jumper during game action, which TR still struggles with. He isn't a bad ft shooter, he is just a shooter who can't shoot quickly and efficiently. Give him time to set up and bend his knees (ie free throws) and he is pretty solid.
 
JumpinJack5 said:
Rubles usually settles for jumpers in that spot, if he stuck to attacking the rim and playing some post he would be much better off. Rubles just can't shoot, he has to realize that. I think Caupain would be an interesting player to stick in the middle of the zone. He is an excellent passer and he is also good about attacking the rim, plus he could probably hit the mid-range jumper more often than Rubles. If we have SK bring the ball up, which we do sometimes, have Caupain flash in the high post with JJ and Rubles on the blocks, along with Sanders and SK on the perimeter waiting to shoot. That is the most effective way to break zones, IMO.
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Again, you are way off...
 
Bearcat_NTS said:
Again, you are way off...
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Do you agree that Rubles can't shoot to save his life? I think even a blind person could see that. He is a fine player, he just isn't a shooter. I will point to your percentages to show why he shouldn't shoot-4-43 from beyond the arc last year (he learned that he shouldn't shoot that shot either) and 66-195 (33%) from the field last year. This year, he hasn't attempted a three (very good, glad he realized that he shouldn't shoot 3s) and his fg % is up to 38%, primarily because he is shooting from much closer and not attempting so many jumpers. He shouldn't attempt a jumper more than 6-7 feet out unless 1) once in a blue moon to change it up or 2) end of the shot clock. He is 6'7-6'8, he is pretty big and strong, he can hang with the big boys down low, that should be the focus of his offensive game.
 
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bearcat jeff said:
Titus played the second half like he needs to play every game. He needs to attack.
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Yes, he did the same in the first half of the Houston game. All needs to do is look across the other side of the lane for a good example to follow in JJ. Speaking of JJ, is it just me, or does it feel like his 15 point, 7-8 rebound, 5-6 block games feel like a typical day at the office now? Man, if he can continue to consistently give us this the rest of the year, we should be in good standing come March. Still have to work on his fouling, but he is a beast regardless.
 

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