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[cincrulz11]

Defense is down to 61 on kenpom. Just pathetic. Offense at 29. Wtf is going on.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

There isn't a defense this team could play with the effort they give. They've been out worked all season long. They did man and zone today, but when you stand around and do nothing, what does it matter.

Agreed. Hard to watch. Mick gave this year to the players...disappointing how they've responded thus far.

 

[cincrulz11]

Agreed. Hard to watch. Mick gave this year to the players...disappointing how they've responded thus far.

It's extremely disappointing. Anybody that's coached knows you can't force the players to give effort. It will drive you completely insane, but you can't do anything about it. If they don't want it, you can't make them want it.


And the sad thing is it isn't a couple players, it's the entire roster.

 

[UCalum08]

This is completely on the players. The system hasn't changed, the coaching hasn't changed, the players haven't changed. The effort and desire just isn't there. There is just no reason to be worse than last year.


There is plenty to talk about with Mick, but the players themselves have to have enough pride as players to show up every day and work. That clearly isn't happening.

Thats def how I feel. I would seriously consider benching players long-term if we had options to rectify that. There's some players right now who don't deserve to play for UC. I'd lose another game to prove that point to these pre Madonna players.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

It's extremely disappointing. Anybody that's coached knows you can't force the players to give effort. It will drive you completely insane, but you can't do anything about it. If they don't want it, you can't make them want it.


And the sad thing is it isn't a couple players, it's the entire roster.

Clark has played enough minutes and games where you shouldn't have to fight him to play hard. I can't believe he has 0 deflections in the last 2 games.

 

[Bulldog01]

You can't bench guys for over helping on defense? Pretty simple fix to need that hasn't been solved. You can come uo with all the pretty excuses and stats in the world. Corner 3's have killed us in EVERY loss. We've allowed the most penetration have ever seen against zone.

 

[Bearcat_NTS]

Everyone's pissed and I get that. Take a deep breath. We've had "cross road" moments basically every year under Mick. The first tournament team lost to St. Johns at home, the Sweet 16 team had the Xavier debacle, SK's senior year we had another Xavier debacle, last year we had the Tulane home loss. The track record for bouncing back has been very good. Think about that before you jump off the cliff. The offense has been excellent (#29 in KenPom), the defense will come around...it almost has to at this point. I'll take a strong finish to the season versus a strong start. All hope is not lost...yet.

 

[cincrulz11]

Thats def how I feel. I would seriously consider benching players long-term if we had options to rectify that. There's some players right now who don't deserve to play for UC. I'd lose another game to prove that point to these pre Madonna players.

Mick said as much post game. Said he doesn't have 5 players he wants to play. He's considering holding open walk on try-outs when the new semester starts. Who can we get to try out? Anybody got any eligibility left?

 

[Bulldog01]

Problem most definitely isn't offense

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Evans should never think twice about shooting. I'm not going to be as hard on him as the guys who have been here longest, but he cannot pass up shots. I know that's the least of our concerns as of now, but it just speaks to the overall passive attitude.

 

[cincrulz11]

Everyone's pissed and I get that. Take a deep breath. We've had "cross road" moments basically every year under Mick. The first tournament team lost to St. Johns at home, the Sweet 16 team had the Xavier debacle, SK's senior year we had another Xavier debacle, last year we had the Tulane home loss. The track record for bouncing back has been very good. Think about that before you jump off the cliff. The offense has been excellent (#29 in KenPom), the defense will come around...it almost has to at this point. I'll take a strong finish to the season versus a strong start. All hope is not lost...yet.

But the players are going to have to want to play. They have to want to out work every team they face. I guess the hope is effort can change, but it has to happen.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Everyone's pissed and I get that. Take a deep breath. We've had "cross road" moments basically every year under Mick. The first tournament team lost to St. Johns at home, the Sweet 16 team had the Xavier debacle, SK's senior year we had another Xavier debacle, last year we had the Tulane home loss. The track record for bouncing back has been very good. Think about that before you jump off the cliff. The offense has been excellent (#29 in KenPom), the defense will come around...it almost has to at this point. I'll take a strong finish to the season versus a strong start. All hope is not lost...yet.

I agree.

 

[cincrulz11]

Evans should never think twice about shooting. I'm not going to be as hard on him as the guys who have been here longest, but he cannot pass up shots. I know that's the least of our concerns as of now, but it just speaks to the overall passive attitude.

The few bad games he's had you can tell it gets in his head. When he's struggling he's reluctant to shoot. Today might have been his worst game, he struggled on both ends.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

The few bad games he's had you can tell it gets in his head. When he's struggling he's reluctant to shoot. Today might have been his worst game, he struggled on both ends.

Yep. Struggled big time on both ends.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Lots of talk after Kentucky last year, lots of offseason work put in...time for these players to do some soul searching and decide if they really meant it this offseason...bc it's a lot easier to mean business then.

 

[UCBearcats]

Everyone's pissed and I get that. Take a deep breath. We've had "cross road" moments basically every year under Mick. The first tournament team lost to St. Johns at home, the Sweet 16 team had the Xavier debacle, SK's senior year we had another Xavier debacle, last year we had the Tulane home loss. The track record for bouncing back has been very good. Think about that before you jump off the cliff. The offense has been excellent (#29 in KenPom), the defense will come around...it almost has to at this point. I'll take a strong finish to the season versus a strong start. All hope is not lost...yet.

Losers mentality get us knocked out of the tourney in the first weekend. We've had a "crossroads moment" every year under Mick because he's not that good of a coach. Ten years and one sweet 16. It was easy to progress every year when we started with nothing. We made the sweet 16 four years ago and we've been regressing ever since. Mick is an average coach at best, time the fanboys accept it and quit allowing him to make excuses.

 

[L-T]

2 steals, 2 blocked shots (both by Shaq). Where have the intimadators gone inside? Guys come inside with no worries now. Substitutions make absolutely no sense at times. Caupain has made a lot of mistakes late in our losses. Temple hit everything they threw up. Was it luck or our defense? Our RPI is not good. 76 to start the game. It will drop into the 80s now. Do we have enough good wins in conference to improve our RPI substantially? Doubtful. We don't have any choice but to take a deep breath and see this out, but things are not looking good.

 

[Bulldog01]

Ellis
Shaq
Evans
Caupain
Jenifer

 

[waterhead]

Lots of talk after Kentucky last year, lots of offseason work put in...time for these players to do some soul searching and decide if they really meant it this offseason...bc it's a lot easier to mean business then.

Good point! A lot of hard work put in the off season to not try hard, box out and be focused on every play. We can't lose the toughness battle AND the mental battle. Playing tough is our culture...if we have to win one of those.

 

[Bulldog01]

What is deberry role going forward?