Torian Graham 2014 JUCO SG

[JackBauer151]

There are many moving parts in play right now for UC and Torian is certainly one of those. There may be an official announce on April 16th but Im hearing we will know his choice prior.

Hearing the same.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

There are many moving parts in play right now for UC and Torian is certainly one of those. There may be an official announce on April 16th but Im hearing we will know his choice prior.

got a prediction Jeff?

 

[IDC]

Wasnt trying to bust your chops its just important to get it right. No hard feelings.

Well then WTF does "already know bro" mean?

When Graham retweeted that he'll be making a decision soon, Clark replied with that, which leads me to believe Clark knows where Graham is going.

Whatever, I can wait a few weeks.

 

[coachpipe]

Well then WTF does "already know bro" mean?

When Graham retweeted that he'll be making a decision soon, Clark replied with that, which leads me to believe Clark knows where Graham is going.

Whatever, I can wait a few weeks.

clark didnt reply to it. Graham was the one who said already know bro. Clark just retweeted it

 

[JackBauer151]

He is saying to his buddy "You already know" it is a slang that is just confirming statement. Basically just saying yes I am going to announce soon. Also I dont think you are going to have to wait a few weeks.

 

[BearcatNation54]

Don't get me wrong I want him, but he's only averaged 12 points this year in JUCO, that's not very impressive for what people are building him up to be.

 

[Bearcat_NTS]

Don't get me wrong I want him, but he's only averaged 12 points this year in JUCO, that's not very impressive for what people are building him up to be.

Look at their roster, they've got plenty of DI players. Cassell Jr is committed to Connecticut, Bowers was signed with Florida State, Morris is signed with Minnesota, and Graham is expected to sign with a major school too. That roster is loaded with talent...

 

[jacobkdoyle]

If we land Graham we will be inexperienced but not all that young. I think Caupain, Clark and Moore would be the only 18 year olds start of season. That combined with more depth and a true 5 makes me think we have a shot to be playing well at the right time next year.

 

[#BearcatNation]

So what does everyone think? I think he's a Cat!!!!!

I think that none of us know, lol. I know what you guys are saying about his Twitter though. If he commits elsewhere I'd feel like he was really leading us fans on. I was unaware he said he has already made his decision, though.

 

[bearcats5]

Don't get me wrong I want him, but he's only averaged 12 points this year in JUCO, that's not very impressive for what people are building him up to be.

I don't know what it is, but it looks like some of his stats were removed from the beginning of the season (I'm assuming you're looking here: http://stats.njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2013-14/div1/players/toriangrahamny11?view=gamelog). Some of the stats from the earlier posts in here don't add up with the game logs that are provided now--it seems like several of the game logs were taken down. Through mid-January, he was averaging over 20 ppg and shooting around 50% from three. Looks like some of his games after his suspension and the removal of earlier stats brought those numbers down some.

 

[BearcatNation54]

I don't know what it is, but it looks like some of his stats were removed from the beginning of the season (I'm assuming you're looking here: http://stats.njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2013-14/div1/players/toriangrahamny11?view=gamelog). Some of the stats from the earlier posts in here don't add up with the game logs that are provided now--it seems like several of the game logs were taken down. Through mid-January, he was averaging over 20 ppg and shooting around 50% from three. Looks like some of his games after his suspension and the removal of earlier stats brought those numbers down some.

Ah I didn't see that. I know he was a top 100 recruit coming out of high school so he is full of talent. With his natural ability and Mick's coaching I think we can expect 10-15 points per game if he commits to us.

 

[UCalum08]

Man if we land Graham I will be so stoked. I love watching his highlight videos ad the way he plays. Please please please be a Bearcat!!!

 

[TrillCosby]

I don't know what it is, but it looks like some of his stats were removed from the beginning of the season (I'm assuming you're looking here: http://stats.njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2013-14/div1/players/toriangrahamny11?view=gamelog). Some of the stats from the earlier posts in here don't add up with the game logs that are provided now--it seems like several of the game logs were taken down. Through mid-January, he was averaging over 20 ppg and shooting around 50% from three. Looks like some of his games after his suspension and the removal of earlier stats brought those numbers down some.

Following Graham's stats are incredibly confusing. Most of his game logs seem to be missing.

Anyway here is a look at his 3 point shooting through his first 5 games played and his last 5 games of the season. (stats taken from Chipola College athletic website)

First 5 games: 21-43 48.8% from 3pt range 4.2-8.6 per game

Last 5 games: 7-25 28% from 3pt range 1.4-5.0 per game


The huge disparity in numbers I would imagine are partly due to his suspension.

 

[UCalum08]

The fact that Clark retweeted that statement by Torian is a really good sign IMO. I mean he is really dropping hints that he has already made his mind up. He even retweeted some UC fans saying bearcatnation wants him. Good signs people.

 

[Bearcatboy]

Did anyone notice that the kid Rozelle Nix that twitted "my boy Torian Graham is going to commit soon stay tuned" has a new bearcat jersey as one of his pictures IMO Graham has a 80% chance to be a BEARCAT.

 

[dp3113]

Ah I didn't see that. I know he was a top 100 recruit coming out of high school so he is full of talent. With his natural ability and Mick's coaching I think we can expect 10-15 points per game if he commits to us.

I would slow down dude. There is zero basis to expect double digits from him. We don't even know if he will start/get the majority of minutes at the 2. How do you even know he is better than Kevin Johnson? Johnson likely is a better perimeter defender. Mick gives minutes to guys who defend. Expecting double digits out of any JUCO these days is an absolute best case scenario.

 

[Bearcat_NTS]

I would slow down dude. There is zero basis to expect double digits from him. We don't even know if he will start/get the majority of minutes at the 2. How do you even know he is better than Kevin Johnson? Johnson likely is a better perimeter defender. Mick gives minutes to guys who defend. Expecting double digits out of any JUCO these days is an absolute best case scenario.

Chris Jones was a similar case (top recruit that went JUCO), though he was slightly higher rated in HS. He averaged 10 points and lead the conference in steals. It can be done....

 

[IDC]

I guess I still can't read twitter.

Maybe it's just my perception, but I think JUCO guards tend to have a quicker impact that JUCO bigs.

We all know the list of JUCO bigs that took time to develop, or in some cases, never developed.

But off the top of my head, Jihad Muhammad, Tony Bobbitt, Van Exel even, all turned out to be contributing players

 

[Patrick Bateman]

Chris Jones was a similar case (top recruit that went JUCO), though he was slightly higher rated in HS. He averaged 10 points and lead the conference in steals. It can be done....

Or guy that was a zero star recruit and only had offers from George Mason and Toledo that transferred to UL and was MOP of the final four and averaged 12 points-Luke Hancock

Buzz also had good luck with JUCO's and Jae Crowder averaged 12 pts his Jr. year and that was in the Big East

 

[dp3113]

Chris Jones was a similar case (top recruit that went JUCO), though he was slightly higher rated in HS. He averaged 10 points and lead the conference in steals. It can be done....

Chris Jones was regarded as the best JUCO prospect in the past 10-15 years. Different level of player.

Like I said, I didn't say it can't be done, I said it is best case scenario. Expecting best case scenario considering UC's track record with JUCOs in their first year is unreasonable.