I worry about that PG position a little bit. MAW was playing mostly because McNeal ended up being horrible. MAW doesn’t have great handles but he was serviceable when pressure wasn’t applied. I like the future of the position but this year worries me if Dejulius can’t play. It’s too important of a position to be average at.
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I worry about that PG position a little bit. MAW was playing mostly because McNeal ended up being horrible. MAW doesn’t have great handles but he was serviceable when pressure wasn’t applied. I like the future of the position but this year worries me if Dejulius can’t play. It’s too important of a position to be average at.
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I worry about that PG position a little bit. MAW was playing mostly because McNeal ended up being horrible. MAW doesn’t have great handles but he was serviceable when pressure wasn’t applied. I like the future of the position but this year worries me if Dejulius can’t play. It’s too important of a position to be average at.
Although young and inexperienced...Saunders is going to be good. He might surprise you this year at the PG...especially if DD isn't eligible. Baptism by fire. The kid will impress you.
Although young and inexperienced...Saunders is going to be good. He might surprise you this year at the PG...especially if DD isn't eligible. Baptism by fire. The kid will impress you.
I am looking forward to seeing him play and I think he will be very good for us for 2-3 years but just not sure he will adjust to the speed and learn the system in time for a big impact this year. But if DD doesn't play I would expect him to be the #2 right away and who knows by end of year could be in there for MAW as a starter.
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Saunders is the freshman who I have the lowest expectations for this year.
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Yeah I don't see Saunders getting much floor time, but that's just a guess. He does look like a good recruit to develop.
My thinking is he's going to be facing tougher competition and it's the first year learning a different level of offensive strategy. He's going to need to hit the weights and just do a ton of repetitions. His outside shot is only okay, so that will take some time to build up confidence at this level.
Let's hope we get to see some play to really put in some honest speculation.
My thinking is he's going to be facing tougher competition and it's the first year learning a different level of offensive strategy. He's going to need to hit the weights and just do a ton of repetitions. His outside shot is only okay, so that will take some time to build up confidence at this level.
Let's hope we get to see some play to really put in some honest speculation.
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If there is a basketball season this year (fingers crossed), which freshman do you think will have the biggest offensive impact?
I would have to go with Eason or Gabe Madsen. I think Eason because of his footwork and athleticism. He also looks like he can finish around the rim pretty well in his highlights, hopefully he translates that in D1. If he develops a consistent jumper throughout the season...watch out.
Gabe can shoot lights out and has a quick release. That will help us out a lot for when teams are running a zone or double the post. Seems like he has a high IQ to find an open spot on the defense. He also has some decent ball handling skills to create is own shot.
I would have to go with Eason or Gabe Madsen. I think Eason because of his footwork and athleticism. He also looks like he can finish around the rim pretty well in his highlights, hopefully he translates that in D1. If he develops a consistent jumper throughout the season...watch out.
Gabe can shoot lights out and has a quick release. That will help us out a lot for when teams are running a zone or double the post. Seems like he has a high IQ to find an open spot on the defense. He also has some decent ball handling skills to create is own shot.
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If there is a basketball season this year (fingers crossed), which freshman do you think will have the biggest offensive impact?
I would have to go with Eason or Gabe Madsen. I think Eason because of his footwork and athleticism. He also looks like he can finish around the rim pretty well in his highlights, hopefully he translates that in D1. If he develops a consistent jumper throughout the season...watch out.
Gabe can shoot lights out and has a quick release. That will help us out a lot for when teams are running a zone or double the post. Seems like he has a high IQ to find an open spot on the defense. He also has some decent ball handling skills to create is own shot.
You're probably right.
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If there is a basketball season this year (fingers crossed), which freshman do you think will have the biggest offensive impact?
I would have to go with Eason or Gabe Madsen. I think Eason because of his footwork and athleticism. He also looks like he can finish around the rim pretty well in his highlights, hopefully he translates that in D1. If he develops a consistent jumper throughout the season...watch out.
Gabe can shoot lights out and has a quick release. That will help us out a lot for when teams are running a zone or double the post. Seems like he has a high IQ to find an open spot on the defense. He also has some decent ball handling skills to create is own shot.
If DeJulius doesn't get his waiver then that'll open 28-30 minutes/game at one of the guard positions and I think Gabe (along with Harvey) will take a good chunk of those minutes.
I think Gabe's year 1 impact could be similar to Erik Stevenson's at Wichita State where he shoots A LOT when he's in the game with the potential to put up 15-20 on a good night, but could also have some real clunkers thrown in there as well and be prone to multi-game droughts.
Eason is definitely our most physically ready freshman, but I have no idea how consistently he'll be able to score at this level. We haven't had a true freshman big make a real offensive impact since Gary Clark in 14/15. I think he'll be a much more consistent player than Gabe but with a lower offensive ceiling.
I think we'll see a big drop-off in production after those two. We'll have to throw Saunders to the wolves for back-up minutes at the 1 if DeJulius isn't eligible, but otherwise I think he'll warrant 11th/12th man minutes.
Mason Madsen seems like a year 1 role player through and through.
Lakhin (if he makes it over) will probably need at least a year to adjust to the American game but if he does play I think he can show some flashes in limited minutes ala Diarra as a frosh.
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If DeJulius doesn't get his waiver then that'll open 28-30 minutes/game at one of the guard positions and I think Gabe (along with Harvey) will take a good chunk of those minutes.
I think Gabe's year 1 impact could be similar to Erik Stevenson's at Wichita State where he shoots A LOT when he's in the game with the potential to put up 15-20 on a good night, but could also have some real clunkers thrown in there as well and be prone to multi-game droughts.
Eason is definitely our most physically ready freshman, but I have no idea how consistently he'll be able to score at this level. We haven't had a true freshman big make a real offensive impact since Gary Clark in 14/15. I think he'll be a much more consistent player than Gabe but with a lower offensive ceiling.
I think we'll see a big drop-off in production after those two. We'll have to throw Saunders to the wolves for back-up minutes at the 1 if DeJulius isn't eligible, but otherwise I think he'll warrant 11th/12th man minutes.
Mason Madsen seems like a year 1 role player through and through.
Lakhin (if he makes it over) will probably need at least a year to adjust to the American game but if he does play I think he can show some flashes in limited minutes ala Diarra as a frosh.
Yah. If DD was to play this year I would think MAW would be the back up PG and the backup SG at least initially. That would probably hurt both Gabe and Saunders. Now if DD is not playing MAW is likely the PG for about 25 of the minutes and maybe not backing up the SG spot at all. So Gabe and Mike become primary backups and can earn 10-15 minutes (depending).
Of course either of these guys or Mason could surprise us and I hope they do. I think Eason is already in that position of primary backup rather than a 3rd option at a position.
I don't see Lakhin getting much run this year and Mason could be used as a heat check shooter from time to time. But 3rd or 4th option at PG wouldn't amount to much if anything.
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Brannen was on Jon Rothstein's show recently for those that want to give it a quick listen.
https://soundcloud.com/compass-medi...s-john-brannenamerican-conf-preseason-preview
Brannen comes on at 9:20.
The biggest takeaway for me was that he inferred a decision on DeJulius wasn't going to come anytime soon. He said they'll be working on his waiver for the next "couple months".
https://soundcloud.com/compass-medi...s-john-brannenamerican-conf-preseason-preview
Brannen comes on at 9:20.
The biggest takeaway for me was that he inferred a decision on DeJulius wasn't going to come anytime soon. He said they'll be working on his waiver for the next "couple months".
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Thanks for sharing that. I'm starved for Bearcats hoops so any drop is fun.
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Wow some great news for DeJulius. Everyone assumes he'll start, but who really knows after a late start and everything that's new. I'm just happy we'll have more depth with a kid who is obviously very skilled and can likely manage the role well.
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This marks the end to a phenomenal offseason by Brannen.
-Convinced 4 underclassmen to return to Clifton (MAW, Davenport, Diarra); one whom many considered a risk to transfer throughout the season (Harvey)
-Convinced 2 seniors with semi-legitimate pro prospects (Keith and Vogt) to return to Clifton
-Brought in 2 transfers coveted by many high major programs (DeJulius and Rap) and ensured both would be eligible to play come this fall.
-Brought in one the conference's best recruiting classes with 2 players many believe will contribute this season (Gabe and Eason), 2 high-character players who look to be great leaders and role models for the next 4 years (Saunders and Mason), and 1 low-risk, high-reward project who we beat some credible high major comp for during the pandemic.
-Convinced 4 underclassmen to return to Clifton (MAW, Davenport, Diarra); one whom many considered a risk to transfer throughout the season (Harvey)
-Convinced 2 seniors with semi-legitimate pro prospects (Keith and Vogt) to return to Clifton
-Brought in 2 transfers coveted by many high major programs (DeJulius and Rap) and ensured both would be eligible to play come this fall.
-Brought in one the conference's best recruiting classes with 2 players many believe will contribute this season (Gabe and Eason), 2 high-character players who look to be great leaders and role models for the next 4 years (Saunders and Mason), and 1 low-risk, high-reward project who we beat some credible high major comp for during the pandemic.
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Hear! Hear!
I have no clue how good they'll be this season, but there is a lot to be excited about for this season and the future.
I used to feel like there was little excitement around Cronin's recruiting, and we'd just have to wait a while to see what developed. Now it seems like you can see the possibilities.
I have no clue how good they'll be this season, but there is a lot to be excited about for this season and the future.
I used to feel like there was little excitement around Cronin's recruiting, and we'd just have to wait a while to see what developed. Now it seems like you can see the possibilities.
With DeJulius getting the waiver that gives us a potential starting lineup of:
DeJulius, Williams, Harvey, Eason, and Vogt...4 of whom were 4* recruits (per Rivals) out of high school.
Does anyone know the last time we had 4 out of 5 guys in the lineup having been 4* recruits or better?
DeJulius, Williams, Harvey, Eason, and Vogt...4 of whom were 4* recruits (per Rivals) out of high school.
Does anyone know the last time we had 4 out of 5 guys in the lineup having been 4* recruits or better?
Wow some great news for DeJulius. Everyone assumes he'll start, but who really knows after a late start and everything that's new. I'm just happy we'll have more depth with a kid who is obviously very skilled and can likely manage the role well.
This is awesome news! In terms of starting I think Dejulius has two potential spots to start depending on who steps up at the 1 and 2. MAW could also fill 2 potential roles at the 1 and 2. Harvey would only fill 1 of those two positions.
I would hate to eliminate Saunders and Gabe etc but just going by what seems most likely at the moment with very little news coming out of practice.
Vogt and Dou manning the 5
Rap and Eason at the 4 with Dou as insurance
Williams, Harvey, MAW and Gabe on the wing
Dejulius, Saunders, MAW at point
Heat check Mason
Lakhin Redshirt
Davenport...I have no idea exactly where he fits in but he needs to develop a 3 ball and go for the 3 and D type of player.
Rap and Eason at the 4 with Dou as insurance
Williams, Harvey, MAW and Gabe on the wing
Dejulius, Saunders, MAW at point
Heat check Mason
Lakhin Redshirt
Davenport...I have no idea exactly where he fits in but he needs to develop a 3 ball and go for the 3 and D type of player.
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Viktor Lakhin is supposedly arriving in Cincinnati today and after a 14-day quarantine period will be able to work out/practice with the team.