Nah he most definitely understand the game. Once it slows down he go be major piece off bench! No scrubs on team at all right now. Saunders can’t score but he can dribble better than most Cronin Pgs and he go be lockdown defender by next year.Yeah, comparing a freshmen with 3-4 games under his belt to a junior is stupid. But here we are. You have to compare them at the same point in their career. You also can’t make trades like Justin suggested. Like I said, I like kunkle but it’s hardly worth losing sleep over. Kunkle is average 7.5 pts per game as a junior. I think mason can do that by the time his a junior or at least close. Did mason have an incredible game last night? No, not at all. But he didn’t look like a scrub either like some suggested before they even seen him play
Vogt won us game! Blame coach for not playing them together or dou for not working on his game to play the 4. Vogt had nothing to do with dou not playing last night. I actually like the 10-11 deep lineups. Once they all seven more that’s go be key to run like horses. We have the guards, get another tall wing and big that can defend, I’ll take my chances with coach getting job done! He’s playing walk ons(and WINNING), even Justin have to admit no way in hell Cronin makes that adjustment and play walk ons. He would’ve played his team of only 9 scholarships to being with 6 available players all game and lost!Honest question, do you just watch the whole game waiting for diarra to play?
I thought Vogt was terrible in the first half also, but he was great in the second half. His size really effected temple. Diarra played well when he was in and should have played more but Vogt was pretty good in the second half.
Harvey should have played more too. He was our best player for stretches and hardly played the second half. I wonder if it was COVID related.
Yeah I could see if we had winning team and he was missing piece. Carlik Jones/Tate/kunkel would’ve looked nice though! If we had real big instead of kid that quit , that roster would’ve been top 10! We needed all 3 not just one so I’m not mad.lol at the love fest over a junior average 7.5 pts/game, 1.5 reb/game, 1.5 asst/game, and shooting 28% from 3. yea, that's exactly what this team is missing...hell these same posters were trying to run Vogt out of here last year when his numbers were better.
Yeah I could see if we had winning team and he was missing piece. Carlik Jones/Tate/kunkel would’ve looked nice though! If we had real big instead of kid that quit , that roster would’ve been top 10! We needed all 3 not just one so I’m not mad.
Yeah, kunkle would be third out of those 3. I don’t understand the love affair with him, I guess he hit a game winner.
I won’t speak to the quality of bigs but the quantity Brannen had to start the year was more than enough. Vogt, Dou, Lakhin, Rap, Eason, Davenport. All were 4s or 5s coming in.
Now that Davenport can shoot we can play him at the 3...but that was a bit unexpected.
Honest question, do you just watch the whole game waiting for diarra to play?
I thought Vogt was terrible in the first half also, but he was great in the second half. His size really effected temple. Diarra played well when he was in and should have played more but Vogt was pretty good in the second half.
Harvey should have played more too. He was our best player for stretches and hardly played the second half. I wonder if it was COVID related.
Vogt's +/- in the 2nd half was -1. But sure, he won us the game. Just like last year, even at his best, Vogt is generally a net neutral.
Temple was his best case scenario, a team with an undersized big, who can't shoot and (for some unknown reason, probably involving bad coaching) they tried to pound it inside anyway - where Vogt is actually good on defense. Even with all that going for him, he was -1 in the 2nd half (to be fair, he would have been +0 if not for techs). Since he was bad in the first half, that left him at -6 for the game (cancelled out by Diarra's +6).
Just like I said last year, Vogt just isn't that good. Vogt playing "well" is him not hurting the team too much. I want a center who is actually giving positive contributions and Vogt isn't that center and never will be. Diarra is the only viable center on the team for next year, he should be getting as many minutes as he can take. Especially when he outplays Vogt, which he did in the first half (and probably would have in the 2nd if he'd been given a chance).
As for Harvey, I agree he should be getting more minutes and if he doesn't soon I will add him to the guys I complain about not getting enough minutes. But 18 minutes in first game post Covid is about what I expected. I think he will get more minutes in the coming weeks.
+/- definitely isn’t a good indicator after 5 minutes or whatever dou played. Sometimes I think these guys just look at certain stats that help their argument. I wouldn’t mind seeing more dou, but he just isn’t what skyblade wants him to be.+/- stats from one game aren't really useful. If you have them over the course of a season, there might be something worth discussing. And anyway, we lost the second half by 4 pts. So if Vogt's +/- was -1, his replacements at the 5 were -3.
The stats we do have over multiple seasons aren't great for Diarra. He fouls a ton and is a turnover machine. Yeah, he might be the guy on the current roster most likely to play the 5 next year, but I expect that to change. I have to think we bring somebody in, probably a transfer. I'd like to see him play more than 8 minutes, but I don't think we should try to groom him to take over the bulk of interior minutes if it makes us a worse team right now.
It's funny how some arguments never go away, like Diarra or Brannen vs Cronin or Xavier mid-major recruits, but others suddenly disappear. Last week people were wanting Eason to play the 4 and have the offense run through him. The guy fouled out in 7 minutes.Sometimes I think these guys just look at certain stats that help their argument.
It's funny how some arguments never go away, like Diarra or Brannen vs Cronin or Xavier mid-major recruits, but others suddenly disappear. Last week people were wanting Eason to play the 4 and have the offense run through him. The guy fouled out in 7 minutes.
It's funny how some arguments never go away, like Diarra or Brannen vs Cronin or Xavier mid-major recruits, but others suddenly disappear. Last week people were wanting Eason to play the 4 and have the offense run through him. The guy fouled out in 7 minutes.
+/- stats from one game aren't really useful. If you have them over the course of a season, there might be something worth discussing. And anyway, we lost the second half by 4 pts. So if Vogt's +/- was -1, his replacements at the 5 were -3.
The stats we do have over multiple seasons aren't great for Diarra. He fouls a ton and is a turnover machine. Yeah, he might be the guy on the current roster most likely to play the 5 next year, but I expect that to change. I have to think we bring somebody in, probably a transfer. I'd like to see him play more than 8 minutes, but I don't think we should try to groom him to take over the bulk of interior minutes if it makes us a worse team right now.
A lot of his fouls are dumb/careless plays. Same as Keith. 4 or 5, dumb is dumb. He will learn. I thought he got some tough calls also.I want Eason to play the 4, but not for the offense to run through him. The reason he fouled out is precisely because he played the 5. Forrester was a bad matchup for him, Forrester was big enough to give Tari problems and experienced/skilled enough on the interior. Eason fouled out largely because he was playing out of position and asked to defend someone he couldn't.
I don't remember all 5 of his fouls, but one was going for an offensive rebound, one was going for a help block, and one was a charge. None of those had to do with who he was guarding, and he could have picked those up playing the 4 too. He fouled out because he made typical freshman mistakes.I want Eason to play the 4, but not for the offense to run through him. The reason he fouled out is precisely because he played the 5. Forrester was a bad matchup for him, Forrester was big enough to give Tari problems and experienced/skilled enough on the interior. Eason fouled out largely because he was playing out of position and asked to defend someone he couldn't.
+/- definitely isn’t a good indicator after 5 minutes or whatever dou played. Sometimes I think these guys just look at certain stats that help their argument. I wouldn’t mind seeing more dou, but he just isn’t what skyblade wants him to be.
If we played diarra and got kunkel, we might win the whole thing