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cincyguy13 said:
this is why the "who are we gonna get if mick goes" argument is dumb. there are a ton of good coaches that are out there that no one has heard of. have to find them. mack before xavier, stevens before butler, even huggins before cincy.
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Yeah Jamie Dixon and Pitt will be the go-to response for that. "The grass isn't always greener" and all of that.

But yeah I don't worry about that so much either.

There was a post on twitter about how Loyola has more tourney wins in 2 weeks than us, Georgetown, Ohio State, Memphis, Indiana, and whoever have in 5 years. Someone pointed out in response that all those other schools have at least made coaching changes recently to try to shake things up.

Something's gotta give at some point. Just running it back with everything the exact same isn't going to change our fate one bit.

I'm not saying make a coaching change. But if we d get to that point in the next couple years, I don't think it automatically means we fall into the abyss. A guy like Nick Van Exel would generate a lot of positive buzz. He has credentials that would help him in recruiting too. He'd be the first choice imo. If Cronin gets a 14-15 year run, that's plenty of time to make something happen. If he can't get us there, might as well let someone else try.

Earlier I said I'd give Cronin 2 more years. I stand by that from a performance standpoint. But I looked at his contract and he is signed for 3 more years. I'd like to let that contract play out without an extension to put some pressure on him. 15 seasons should yield more than 1 game played in the 2nd weekend of the NCAA Tournament. So until he gets us there again, why add anything onto his deal?
 
cincyguy13 said:
this is why the "who are we gonna get if mick goes" argument is dumb. there are a ton of good coaches that are out there that no one has heard of. have to find them. mack before xavier, stevens before butler, even huggins before cincy.
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Lol. Yeah cause we are gonna hire a nobody and he's for sure gonna be as good as Steven or huggins. You have a top 20 coach. Stability. It's not a stupid argument at all.
 
Jon Rycek said:
Lol. Yeah cause we are gonna hire a nobody and he's for sure gonna be as good as Steven or huggins. You have a top 20 coach. Stability. It's not a stupid argument at all.
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it is stupid though. it's scared to make a change because of the chance it could go wrong. Having no faith that you could make a good hire. I didn't say make a change, but that way of thinking is stupid.
 
cincyguy13 said:
it is stupid though. it's scared to make a change because of the chance it could go wrong. Having no faith that you could make a good hire. I didn't say make a change, but that way of thinking is stupid.
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I suppose. IMO we are well above mediocracy. So it's not like we are just trying to take a step up from that. I think you have to look at what he has done with the players he's had and there no way you can't call him a top 20 coach, tournament success or not. So you're saying that there is a chance we find a guy who could fall into the top 20 with the right resources. That just seems like a hug jump and big risk o you ask me
 
Jon Rycek said:
I suppose. IMO we are well above mediocracy. So it's not like we are just trying to take a step up from that. I think you have to look at what he has done with the players he's had and there no way you can't call him a top 20 coach, tournament success or not. So you're saying that there is a chance we find a guy who could fall into the top 20 with the right resources. That just seems like a hug jump and big risk o you ask me
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I have heard many people on here say we are a top program. I remember an article coming out a year or two ago saying we were one of the top 20 programs of all time. I have heard Cronin mention this. What other top program would be ok with this kind of tourney success? honestly? I get that it's not an even playing field but it's not like we are IUPUI either. We should be able to get to the 2nd round with a position to go further every couple years. Once again, you can't claim to be a top program and not go by the expectations of a top program.
 
if you lose a couple times early, thats basketball. if it happens 7 out of 8 times, something is wrong. Either the players are not good enough, coaching isn't good enough, or the philosophy isn't working. Either way, something needs to change, to simply chalk it up, to "march madness" is wrong
 
UCLA got rid of their assistant coach who was their recruiting coordinator. Unless he's totally sketchy, it'd be awesome to get him on the staff.

In 2016 David Grace was ranked #7 nationally and #1 in the West by ESPN for the best recruiters based on feedback from a D1 coaching peer survey by ESPN.
 
Multiple reports on twitter stating that Xavier commit Jake Walter from Cov Cath is not on the roster and will not play for Xavier.

Shannon Russell said it was an "undisclosed legal matter"

I assume he was arrested. This not a surprise to me at all coming from this program. It has become the norm for them.
 
Because he’s a minor and because it’s a sexual case.

X is just gonna pretend he never existed.

How many x recruits either never make it to campus or never play fans or transfer out of their program.
 
I was being sarcastic. He could have still said that Xavier commit Jake Walter will not play for X due to an arrest as a minor.

I guess he didn’t want to paint the Xavier program in any further bad light given all the recent criminal arrests by their basketball players.

X-cons
 
TheShoeFits said:
I was being sarcastic. He could have still said that Xavier commit Jake Walter will not play for X due to an arrest as a minor.

I guess he didn’t want to paint the Xavier program in any further bad light given all the recent criminal arrests by their basketball players.

X-cons
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Lol I posted it on Reddit. The world needs to know
 
4 Star SF Elias King just de-committed from X. What in the world is going on over there?


@Eliasking15
2h2 hours ago

Due to family reasons I am decommiting from Xavier. I would like to thank Coach Steele and the university for recruiting me. I will give NO interviews by phone or social media.
 
xavier appears to be learning the same lesson we are. when you dont have any shooters, it makes life very hard on your guys trying to penetrate.
 
OSU is now 5-0 with wins at UC and against Creighton. Creighton just knocked odd Clemson. It sucked losing to OSU for multiple reasons but it def isn’t embarrassing
 
juckerrules said:
Me too, can you even imagine a UC team giving up 87 points....and winning?
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Don’t feel too bad. That was the first time Gonzaga beat a number 1 team, & they made their first final four just 2 years ago.

And mark few has been there for years and years.

So if Gonzaga does anything to you, it should be that it gives you hope that you can peak even after 19 or 20 years
 

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