We are top ten, if not top 5 in every metric that matters. Come Monday will be posting our first top 5 ranking under cronin (if we handle business like we should). And yet you think we need to still win games to be in consideration. That's what it sounds like to me
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We are top ten, if not top 5 in every metric that matters. Come Monday will be posting our first top 5 ranking under cronin (if we handle business like we should). And yet you think we need to still win games to be in consideration. That's what it sounds like to me
Try actually reading what I wrote.Why do you think we aren't getting a protected seed so bad.
Of course I think we still need to win games. Does anyone not think that?We are top ten, if not top 5 in every metric that matters. Come Monday will be posting our first top 5 ranking under cronin (if we handle business like we should). And yet you think we need to still win games to be in consideration. That's what it sounds like to me
Why do you think we aren't getting a protected seed so bad.
It looks to me like he was saying "if" we go 2-1 we should be in position for a protected seed. I don't see the point in making it sound any worse than what was said. It's a realistic position to take.
Try actually reading what I wrote.
I read exactly what you wrote, Mr. Realist. And of course we need to win to STAY getting the protected seed we currently are. You are making it out as if we need to win, to get in. And that thought isn't based of one message, but a compilation of your previous ones as well. You're just being a realist, but really you're not.
It looks to me like he was saying "if" we go 2-1 we should be in position for a protected seed. I don't see the point in making it sound any worse than what was said. It's a realistic position to take.
I'm basing this off of more than one post. And there is no should. We go 2-1 the next 3 games, WE ARE a protected seed.
This is exactly what I said. I don't understand what your issue is. Everything I have posted for weeks has been consistent with the idea that we are in the mix of teams being considered for 2-4 seeds.I read exactly what you wrote, Mr. Realist. And of course we need to win to STAY getting the protected seed we currently are. You are making it out as if we need to win, to get in. And that thought isn't based of one message, but a compilation of your previous ones as well. You're just being a realist, but really you're not.
Yes, I agree. If we go 2-1 we should still be in position for a protected seed. Ironically, we should pick up another Group 1 win regardless of our result against Houston. If we lose, they'll probably move into the top 30.
Kentucky and Wichita St each have 10. The picture changes when separating Groups 1 and 2 though. 8 of our wins are in Group 2, which is more than any team on your list. 3 of those (@Memphis, UCF, SMU) are in danger of falling out. We're certainly in the mix with most of your list though.
It's not just Lunardi. Xavier is a 1 seed on bracketmatrix, and we are a 3. It's hard to argue with that. The last 1 seed and all of the 2 & 3 seeds are for the most part indistinguishable. It depends on how much weight you give to different metrics. We'll find out what the committee thinks on Sunday.
This is the flip side to the "we need a marquee win" argument. A Group 1 home win is likely to be marquee by definition, since it must be top 30. But a bunch of Group 1 wins without any marquee wins means a bunch of road/neutral wins.
We got our first 1 seed projection today.
Crashing the Dance is an algorithm that creates a seed list based on a variety of factors if the season ended today. We're #7, in position for a 2 seed.
The best performing bracketologist over the last 2 years also has UC as a 3 seed.
The best performing bracketologist over the last five years has UC as a 3 seed.
We already have more quality wins this year than we did last year, if you assume the groups to be equivalent.
As previously mentioned, I think we're below Auburn, the worst 3 seed. So by my estimation we're 13-14 on the S curve right now.
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I'm basing this off of more than one post. And there is no should. We go 2-1 the next 3 games, WE ARE a protected seed.
Pessimists think they are realists. Optimists think they are realists. Realists think they are realists. I think I am an optimistic realist...lol!
I have read lots of his posts and I think they are very objective. JMO
Sometimes facts are hard to swallow (for me as well). I remember being pissed last year at our seed but I now realize why it happened. We are in better position this year...but there are games to play yet.
Pessimists think they are realists. Optimists think they are realists. Realists think they are realists. I think I am an optimistic realist...lol!
I have read lots of his posts and I think they are very objective. JMO
Sometimes facts are hard to swallow (for me as well). I remember being pissed last year at our seed but I now realize why it happened. We are in better position this year...but there are games to play yet.
What will be most interesting this year on Sunday, and Selection Sunday, is the influence of the tiers 1-4. IF that criteria becomes one of the main 1/2 measuring sticks, I believe Cincy is a 2 seed. If that is additional information in a myriad of other information, I can more than reasonably see us being a 3. We've beaten 0 teams that will 100% be in the field. That can weigh heavily if anything other than RPI/Tiering becomes the #1 criteria. And each year seems to be a moving target, as we all know.
This is exactly what I said. I don't understand what your issue is. Everything I have posted for weeks has been consistent with the idea that we are in the mix of teams being considered for 2-4 seeds.
Your entire post including quotes was the basketball forum version of
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The reality is: our perception and seeding hinges so much on these next 3 games.
Go 0-3 : drop from top 25, drop multiple seed lines
Go 1-3 drop out of top 15, still in running for 4-5 seed
Go 2-1: maintain top 15 rank , still 3-4 seed with room for growth
Go 3-0 and we control our destiny for a 1-2 seed.
I’ll tell you this though, I think I’d rather be the top 3 or 2 seed then to be the lowest 1 seed out west again
Go 0-3 : drop from top 25, drop multiple seed lines
Go 1-3 drop out of top 15, still in running for 4-5 seed
Go 2-1: maintain top 15 rank , still 3-4 seed with room for growth
Go 3-0 and we control our destiny for a 1-2 seed.
I’ll tell you this though, I think I’d rather be the top 3 or 2 seed then to be the lowest 1 seed out west again
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I will say Im really nervous about this 3 game stretch. But I'm a nervous fan in general and so far, this team has proven that it rises to the challenge.
But no doubt about it, this 3 game stretch is brutal and also crucial. Winning on the road is really really hard.
But no doubt about it, this 3 game stretch is brutal and also crucial. Winning on the road is really really hard.
I will say Im really nervous about this 3 game stretch. But I'm a nervous fan in general and so far, this team has proven that it rises to the challenge.
But no doubt about it, this 3 game stretch is brutal and also crucial. Winning on the road is really really hard.
Even as an optimistic fan, I'm a little nervous lol. But like you said, this team has proven it can rise to the occasion. I really think 2-1 is worst case though.
If you aren't familiar with it, two sites to use
www.bracketmatrix.com
Compiles over 70 different people who do this. Shows average, high and low ranges, and links to each guys bracket. I think the wisdom of the crowds is pretty much +/- 1 seed line come selection Sunday for the vast majority of teams.
Also really like warren Nolan's site for tracking RPI. We all know the metric is dumb, but the committee use it and this is updated in real time almost instantly, gives projections, impact games that you can see what if stuff for rankings depending on future outcomes etc. Lots of cool features
http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2018/schedule/Cincinnati
Up to 5 #1 seeds now
Kansas, Purdue, Oklahoma, Virginia, Tennessee all lost today. All are in the 1-3 battle.
I think there is a realistic chance Cincy is ranked as a 1 seed by the committee tomorrow. I will still be ecstatic by 5 or 6. Go 3-0 and theres very little doubt we'll be holding a 1 seed. Then we'll have UConn and Tulsa at home.
Next three games will be the difference in a 1 seed and 4 seed.
I think there is a realistic chance Cincy is ranked as a 1 seed by the committee tomorrow. I will still be ecstatic by 5 or 6. Go 3-0 and theres very little doubt we'll be holding a 1 seed. Then we'll have UConn and Tulsa at home.
Next three games will be the difference in a 1 seed and 4 seed.
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Kansas, Purdue, Oklahoma, Virginia, Tennessee all lost today. All are in the 1-3 battle.
I think there is a realistic chance Cincy is ranked as a 1 seed by the committee tomorrow. I will still be ecstatic by 5 or 6. Go 3-0 and theres very little doubt we'll be holding a 1 seed. Then we'll have UConn and Tulsa at home.
Next three games will be the difference in a 1 seed and 4 seed.
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOO
I think we'll be a 2 seed tomorrow. I don't follow this as closely as all y'all though.
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LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOO
I think we'll be a 2 seed tomorrow. I don't follow this as closely as all y'all though.
I’m going with 2 or at worst highest 3.
1 seeds are tough to break into.
But tomorrow means nothing with out the win @smu
When and where are they doing this?Lunardi came out with what he thinks willl happen tomorrow. Cats as the third 2 seed.