JerseySean
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D'Antonio (Shamtonio) said some negative things about our fan base on his way out the door...
Coach Tuberville
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D'Antonio (Shamtonio) said some negative things about our fan base on his way out the door...
MDW79
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You know, I haven't posted on here in quite awhile. It's been a few years I think. (Not that you should care, but it's not for lack of, or a decrease in interest, as much as it lack of time)
Anyhoo, this is of course is my first post in quite some time. I guess the point of me pointing this out is that you should feel special. Yup, you. You're special. So special in fact, that this post is such a disaster that it compelled me to login and comment on it. No one has managed to do that in a long time. You're the big winner!
Your analogy is all sorts of awful. I'm not even sure where to start there. Your thought process is completely flawed, and your writing (the eloquent rebuttal you just graced us all with) reeks of pure bs.
You say you knew what he was going to say? Guess what? Everybody knew where you were going with that loaded question. You want to talk about a predictable stance? Look at that tired, bs logic you just spewed out. Everyone has heard that stupid, simpleton stance a million times before.
First of all, being able to critique a coaches performance is nowhere near as difficult for a laymen to do as is critiquing a doctor's open heart surgery. I'm sure this much is even obvious to you, but we might as well get that outta of the way just in case. I wouldn't use the argument that because my friend can't recite every single state capitol off the top of his head he's incapable of telling me what is the biggest state. They're completely unrelated questions, and, IMO, they're differing degrees of difficulty. They're as idiotically paired as what you just offered.
You don't need to be an expert on something to have an opinion. And sometimes you don't need to be an expert on something to have the right opinion either.
I know jack squat about refrigerators. Never even attempted to fix one. Don't know anything about their parts. But I do know when it's not cooling.
I don't know much about cars. I'm not a mechanic. But I can tell when my clutch is slipping or my brakes are going bad.
There are countless, perfectly qualified to give their opinion, commentators in the world of sports, who never played at a high level or coached. Heck, there's a lot of guys in front offices, making on the field decision, that never played or coached at a high level.
I don't care whether you played in the Pro Bowl or you never made it past JV ball, you don't have to be an expert to realize that things aren't great right now. Unless you're both blind and deaf, you had to have seen some of the crowd's reactions last week. They weren't the most positive.
You can gripe all you want about the average fan being misinformed, of about them saying "dumbest ass stuff". The fact of the matter is a lot of those fans are the same, or similar to, the people who drive this program. The people who spend money, give donations, show up. They're also known as customers.
From a business sense, and make no mistake, this is a business, their opinion matters. Collectively, the fanbases opinion matter almost more than any other one thing.
If you're going to convince anyone that they're wrong or misinformed, if you hope to change anyone's mind, you're going to have to a whole lot better than "nana, nana, nana you didn't play". You sound like a child.
If things don't get turned around soon, and I mean winning out and creating some goodwill and excitement, I'm afraid you'll see more and more frustration from the fans. If you want to bury your head in the sand and act like that's not a big deal then more power to you.
This program has gotten blown out way too much of late. And not against cream of the crop programs. We're not even competing for titles in the AAC, while campaigning for Big 12. These are problems. A good number of fans are pissed. Turn on any talk radio program or read any forum, or blog, or comment section for proof. That's a problem.
We're nowhere near the level of when Brian Kelly was here. We're not where we were with Butch Jones. And I'm not sure we're not currently worse now than when Dantonio was here either. All problems. Recruiting is a big problem. Local recruiting is a problem.
What's the solution? You tell me. Is it a wait till... solution. Is it all part of some bigger plan? Specifically, how do things get better or improve? Why should some of us be more confident or content with where we are? Convince me.
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MDW79
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I fall into the Tuberville needs to go group too. It seems painfully obvious to me that it's a necessary move at this point.
-25 point loss to South Florida. At home nonetheless.
-35 point loss to San Diego State in a nationally televised game.
-27 point loss to Memphis.
-21 point loss to Miami (FL)
-28 point loss to Illinois.
-38 point loss to South Florida
-22 point loss to UNC.
These are not great programs. Far from it. We're not even competing in games against mid level opponents.
We've lost to Memphis in back to back years. We lost to Miami (FL) in both games. We've lost to South Florida in 3 of the last 4. Houston has now beat us in back to back seasons. A mediocre Virginia Tech team beat us by an easy 16.
What is Tuberville's signature win? Does he have one? Name me 5 teams in the top 50 he's beaten.
Now, of course some of this could be forgiven if the recruiting was great. Perhaps it's been strong enough that the future looks brighter, it's just around the corner. Nope, but swing and a miss there too. Recruiting is the worst it's been in years. And our ability to recruit locally, which is a must here, is almost non-existent.
The product is becoming quickly stale. I'm afraid if they don't act sooner than later on Tuberville that all of the efforts and goodwill created prior will be for not. This program desperately needs some excitement and new energy inserted into it. You look at this team on paper next season, with the same coach, I'd be shocked if support doesn't decrease.
He needs to go. "Thanks for your time, sorry it didn't work out. Best of luck in the future..."
-25 point loss to South Florida. At home nonetheless.
-35 point loss to San Diego State in a nationally televised game.
-27 point loss to Memphis.
-21 point loss to Miami (FL)
-28 point loss to Illinois.
-38 point loss to South Florida
-22 point loss to UNC.
These are not great programs. Far from it. We're not even competing in games against mid level opponents.
We've lost to Memphis in back to back years. We lost to Miami (FL) in both games. We've lost to South Florida in 3 of the last 4. Houston has now beat us in back to back seasons. A mediocre Virginia Tech team beat us by an easy 16.
What is Tuberville's signature win? Does he have one? Name me 5 teams in the top 50 he's beaten.
Now, of course some of this could be forgiven if the recruiting was great. Perhaps it's been strong enough that the future looks brighter, it's just around the corner. Nope, but swing and a miss there too. Recruiting is the worst it's been in years. And our ability to recruit locally, which is a must here, is almost non-existent.
The product is becoming quickly stale. I'm afraid if they don't act sooner than later on Tuberville that all of the efforts and goodwill created prior will be for not. This program desperately needs some excitement and new energy inserted into it. You look at this team on paper next season, with the same coach, I'd be shocked if support doesn't decrease.
He needs to go. "Thanks for your time, sorry it didn't work out. Best of luck in the future..."
david aka the TYZ
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Mdw79, welcome back. I don't post anywhere near as much as I used to but I'm still around. Just wanted to correct you on one thing and the correction is probably the answer to what is tuberville's signature win. We didn't lose both years to miami, fl. Beat them last year at home, pretty comfortably too. Don't remember the score. Other than that I agree with everything you said.
XgradforUC
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UC. 34. U of Miami 23
But the next week UC LOST....to BYU by 14
But the next week UC LOST....to BYU by 14
AZ BEARCAT
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Think UC does not make any moves until after the big Oct 17th meeting or when they make the expansion decision on the big 12. They need for now to get in the big 12. Just my opinion and I do have two years of experience in flag football. LOL
JasonS
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I don't see UC making any moves this season at all and I think TT will, unfortunately, still be our coach at this time next year.
I don't read all these football posts, so I don't know if this is old news or not. But, it was reported on WLW this morning that the News Record (the university newspaper) has published an article today calling for the ouster of TT. Evidently, the article is posted on the WLW website, if anyone wants to read it.
JasonS
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If you don't like a student newspaper, at least take a look at this from Richard Skinner. He was right on the money in my opinion.
http://local12.com/sports/uc-bearca...ery-difficult-situation-to-get-out-from-under
http://local12.com/sports/uc-bearca...ery-difficult-situation-to-get-out-from-under
UCalum08
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There's a guy on twitter claiming he is going to Montgomery Inn to call out Tubbs and tell him to resign. That would be hilarious but highly doubt it happens.
Bearcat_NTS
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HAHAHA, so NOW you guys finally see how much an ass clown Tubby is? I've been saying this since his first year!!! I should have immunity from all bans for at least a year for all the bashing I received on this board.
Bearcat_NTS
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Congrats Jason for seeing the light. Better late then never I guess.
2bearcatdad
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Given your general contributions, it won't be long before you're banned again.
jds513
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You're not the only one that's been saying it all along.
XgradforUC
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If you take away the last 1 and 1/2 quarters of the USF game and look at the support the team received during 95% of the Houston game and the complete Miami game, I can't see where Tubby can have ANY complaint about the fan support. The Houston game was one of the best atmospheres I've ever seen at Nippert, and certainly as good as anything we have seen while he has been here. The Miami game was a struggle and certainly somewhat dissapointing, but I didn't see anyone leaving early. But the 2nd half of the USF game was one of the lousiest performances by a UC team that I have seen in years. Lousy in ALL phases of the game.....including the coaching. To blame the FANS for the defieciencies he is expereiencing in his recruiting, or the lack of tackling by his players, or the poor play calling, or the poor personnel decisions, or the lack of "atmosphere" is one of the worst things I have ever heard a coach say.