Now go find some film of Chandler or chane dribbling
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the_one_32
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Ball handling skills do not make you a 3 man and neither does shooting threes. It's how your used on the offensive and defensive ends of the court. Kevin Love shoots a lot of mid range jumpers and 3s but is still considered a PF.
lol, you guys keep bringing up guys 6'10 and better. Come on now that doesn't even make sense. If love was 6'7 and played how you just describe he'll be a SF. it's plenty of of big that can handle and its plenty SF that can't handle. Usually your size determines where you play. I can't remember to many 6'10-6'11SF in nba.
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I think it all comes down to whether people think Clark will have a shot at the NBA or not when he leaves UC. The people who don't think he's NBA material seem to see him as a post player for his entire career here. The people who do think he can make it, think he can work on expanding his game beyond the traditional back to the basket moves, with a mid-range jumper sprinkled in.
If we want to get to the "next level" as a program, we need to develop NBA players. That obviously helps in the tournament and in recruiting. If Clark's skill set 3 years from now compares to Tyson Chandler, he'll have virtually no shot at the NBA. I hope our coaching staff has the vision, bc Clark could be the poster boy this staff needs to prove to high-level recruits that they can come here and develop an NBA game. What if Tom Izzo and Co. told Draymond that he couldn't shoot 3s anymore bc he was 2-17 in the first half of his college career? You think he'd be a borderline max player for the best team in the NBA right now? No chance. We don't have a single player in 9 years that we can point to in the league and tell recruits that that could be them (I guess Lance but he actually hurt his draft stock his year here imo). It has to happen sooner or later, or we'll never get there. And if not Clark, then who?
If we want to get to the "next level" as a program, we need to develop NBA players. That obviously helps in the tournament and in recruiting. If Clark's skill set 3 years from now compares to Tyson Chandler, he'll have virtually no shot at the NBA. I hope our coaching staff has the vision, bc Clark could be the poster boy this staff needs to prove to high-level recruits that they can come here and develop an NBA game. What if Tom Izzo and Co. told Draymond that he couldn't shoot 3s anymore bc he was 2-17 in the first half of his college career? You think he'd be a borderline max player for the best team in the NBA right now? No chance. We don't have a single player in 9 years that we can point to in the league and tell recruits that that could be them (I guess Lance but he actually hurt his draft stock his year here imo). It has to happen sooner or later, or we'll never get there. And if not Clark, then who?
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the_one_32
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Draymond Green is considered an NBA 4 man how tall is he? What about DeJuan Blair? Charles Barkley? Dennis Rodman? All 4 men who are undersized. Height means very little when it comes to position on the floor. Like I said its what you are in an offense and a defense.
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Clark needs to attack, attack, attack.
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100%. Caupain too. Shaq needs to work his ass off this summer and set an example for these guys.
the_one_32
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Agree. Needs to develop a mid range jumper and be more aggressive in the post offensively. But we do not need him chucking up 3 pointers and which takes him out of the lane. He's a very good rebounder and can't afford not to have him on the offensive boards.
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Clark is a rare guy who can create and finish. I just hope anytime he isn't there to rebound, it is bc he is the one putting it through the hoop.
I would have to disagree here. Height is perhaps the primary factor for playing pf or c. Finding exceptions to that rule won't change that fact.
I can agree it's not the ONLY factor as you have pointed out.
it's players that guard 1-5 on defense. It's players on offense that play SG that attack paint more than shoot from perimeter, like its 4/5 that hang out on perimeter than post. I'm not going to call that 6'4 G a PF and your not going call the PF a G. 9/10 starting lineups are determined by size. That's why guys aren't developing right way because most players are one dimensional especially at UC. Nobody saying for Clark to hang out on perimeter but when we throw ball into Ellis I ADVICE to watch film to see where Clark hangs out at.
I'll like for him to face up more for he can get momentum going to basket instead of backing down.
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He develops a 15'-17' jumpshot he's REALLY going to be fun to watch.
he's working on it as we speak
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Yep. That can help out Shaq and Troy too. We always talk about them needing to get to the hoop. Well, Clark (or Ellis) bringing one of the big defenders out legitimately to the free throw line or beyond can really help our spacing. There's a reason we started scoring 100+ in 2011-2012 when we had to go 4 guards. I have no issue at all with inside-out play being the priority, but maybe we can get creative with some of our wrinkles and lineup combos if we're as versatile and deep this year as we appear to be.
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The games they scored 100 were against:
Radford - 6-26, .188 W-L% (324th of 344)
Arkansas Pine Bluff 6-21
Chicago State - Overall: 4-26, .133 W-L% (329th of 344)
The next game they needed a last second shot from Cash to get to 56 against Oklahoma. I am sure the opponents helped a bit.
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I was at that Oklahoma game at US Bank!
Yes the 100 point games were definitely against some cupcakes. No doubt. But while we weren't playing teams quite as bad as that this year, we did fail to hit 60 points against the following teams:
NC Central (RPI #128)
Nebraska (#158)
Eastern Illinois (#173)
St. Francis PA (#179)
Tulane (#214)
East Carolina (#219)
UCF (#257)
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I was thinking about the Cash shot against Alabama, not sure who hit the winning shot against Oklahoma.
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It was also Cash but it was the year before when we had all those suspensions and Jermaine Sanders was playing the 5 spot in that game.